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Originally Posted by Memphis
I think Mike Tyson 90-91 knocks out Ali 80-81 ;)
prime vs end of career
so maybe
tyson ko'd berbick who decisoned ali quite comfortably so who knows!!!
The Ali that fought Berbick was not even 10% of the fighter he was when he fought in the early and middle 70's by that time he was in his late 30's and had been through wars
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Originally Posted by beds
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Originally Posted by Memphis
I think Mike Tyson 90-91 knocks out Ali 80-81 ;)
prime vs end of career
so maybe
tyson ko'd berbick who decisoned ali quite comfortably so who knows!!!
The Ali that fought Berbick was not even 10% of the fighter he was when he fought in the early and middle 70's by that time he was in his late 30's and had been through wars
Thats why i started off by saying prime vs end of career ;)
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Originally Posted by beds
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Originally Posted by Memphis
I think Mike Tyson 90-91 knocks out Ali 80-81 ;)
prime vs end of career
so maybe
tyson ko'd berbick who decisoned ali quite comfortably so who knows!!!
The Ali that fought Berbick was not even 10% of the fighter he was when he fought in the early and middle 70's by that time he was in his late 30's and had been through wars
that is true, but people should view tyson-lewis the same......tyson was only 10% of what he used to be, and lewis was hitting his peak
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by beds
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Originally Posted by Memphis
I think Mike Tyson 90-91 knocks out Ali 80-81 ;)
prime vs end of career
so maybe
tyson ko'd berbick who decisoned ali quite comfortably so who knows!!!
The Ali that fought Berbick was not even 10% of the fighter he was when he fought in the early and middle 70's by that time he was in his late 30's and had been through wars
that is true, but people should view tyson-lewis the same......tyson was only 10% of what he used to be, and lewis was hitting his peak
im really tired, i dont know why i posted that its completly off topic ???....my bad
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......can we find more dillusional Tyson fans?
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......can we find more dillusional Tyson fans?
sorry lyle, would you prefer if i hugged foremans nuts like you do :bananasex:
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Hey Foreman was better than Mike Tyson there is no question about it. Gold Medal, Foreman beat all-time greats, he has a better record, and he at 40+ years old was able to do somethings Mike wasn't able to do.....go the distance with Holyfield and become THE Heavyweight Champion of the World again.
That being said, I don't think Foreman would beat anyone ever in the history of boxing in his prime.....because obviously it's not the truth....HOWEVER Tyson fans like to say Tyson was out of his prime when he started to lose....but if he was in his prime he would have won vs anyone....it's a double standard.
Not being trained by Kevin Rooney wasn't the only reason Tyson started to lose, neither was the fact he didn't train like he used to, nor the fact that he didn't fight as often as he used to.....Tyson was self destructive and he would have lost to Buster Douglas no matter what that night
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Hey Foreman was better than Mike Tyson there is no question about it. Gold Medal, Foreman beat all-time greats, he has a better record, and he at 40+ years old was able to do somethings Mike wasn't able to do.....go the distance with Holyfield and become THE Heavyweight Champion of the World again.
That being said, I don't think Foreman would beat anyone ever in the history of boxing in his prime.....because obviously it's not the truth....HOWEVER Tyson fans like to say Tyson was out of his prime when he started to lose....but if he was in his prime he would have won vs anyone....it's a double standard.
Not being trained by Kevin Rooney wasn't the only reason Tyson started to lose, neither was the fact he didn't train like he used to, nor the fact that he didn't fight as often as he used to.....Tyson was self destructive and he would have lost to Buster Douglas no matter what that night
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Re: How Would Ali Have Done In 90s
"I once saw Ali in Hyde Park Running in boots over half a mile he beat a guy riding a F****** horse"-Scrap
Who was riding the horse?
James Toney
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"I once saw Ali in Hyde Park Running in boots over half a mile he beat a guy riding a F****** horse"-Scrap
Who was riding the horse?
James Toney
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Bloody good thread.
Holyfield gives most problems to Ali IMO. The warrior would never stop coming forward and push him all the way, but would need a knockout to win, don't see anyone KO'ing Ali.
I think someone mentioned a few pages back (took me ages to go through the whole thread, can't remember who!) mention that Bowe/Lewis could knock out Ali as they were about 240", I dissagree, Holy went in the ring with both az well as a forty year old George, remember him saying somewhere that George hit harder than the lot.
Still think Lewis' height and reach gives Ali a few problems though.
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Bloody good thread.
Holyfield gives most problems to Ali IMO. The warrior would never stop coming forward and push him all the way, but would need a knockout to win, don't see anyone KO'ing Ali.
I think someone mentioned a few pages back (took me ages to go through the whole thread, can't remember who!) mention that Bowe/Lewis could knock out Ali as they were about 240", I dissagree, Holy went in the ring with both az well as a forty year old George, remember him saying somewhere that George hit harder than the lot.
Still think Lewis' height and reach gives Ali a few problems though.
:coolclick: and yes people keep on about Bowe at 240 but he was rocked so many times vs Holyfield and was put down against him and he was over 2 stone heavier than Holyfield and people need to realize that Bowe was good inside fighter but not great outside one as that was proved when Tubbs out boxed him and same with Golota and as for Lewis as i've said multiple times in this thread he let smaller guys give him trouble with there jabs and is also easy to hit and has been rocked by lesser man aka Gary Mason Shannon Briggs Ray Mercer hell Mercer had Lewis hurt so many times that i can't even count it on my fingers and toes ;D and was also hurt by smaller Holyfield who was out of his prime and almost won the decision in 2nd fight and Bruno who was slow and bit robotic was out jabbing Lewis easily and rocked him quite few times Ali out jabs Lewis easily and wins decision.
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You forget to mention though that all of those fighters that gave Lewis trouble were beaten.
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You forget to mention though that all of those fighters that gave Lewis trouble were beaten.
Yes but should Lewis have been out jabbed by much smaller Mercer and getting rocked all over place ?? no did 40+ Holmes give Mercer a boxing lesson ?? yes and i mean come on he got out jabbed by slow robotic Bruno if Lewis is great and can beat Ali as some are saying here he shouldn't of got gift decision against Mercer and been out jabbed by Bruno
Lewis is too easy to hit and prime Ali would made Lewis look very slow and and quite silly Lewis would struggle to land anything on Ali because he is so quick and Ali would tag Lewis all night.
And heres something for you Memphis didn't Lewis refuse to fight Holmes because Lewis stated= this guy can jab and Holmes was 40+ jeez so if he didn't want to fight Holmes because he thought he was jab would be to much of threat imagine what Ali would of done to Lewis with his jab ??
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I think the only fighters in any era that might give Ali a few problems would be Jack Johnson and Lennox Lewis.
Any agressive come forward fighter would be an easy fight for a prime Ali.
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That's the problem when comparing fighters from different era's, people look at specific fights to prove their point, such as the Cooper knockdown fight, then saying a Tyson would knock him down quicker cos he was bigger and faster than Cooper, neglecting to mention that Ali fought even bigger and stronger guys than Tyson without being knocked down.
The same can be said about Lewis, people mention Mccall and Rahman as reason's why he wouldn't do well against Ali or George, but he just didn't bring his A game to those fight's for some reason or another. If we try and compare champions from different era's and speculate how they would do against each other, we should always assume that they would bring their A game to each of these hypothetical fights, as they would know beforehand their opponent will be top class.
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That's the problem when comparing fighters from different era's, people look at specific fights to prove their point, such as the Cooper knockdown fight, then saying a Tyson would knock him down quicker cos he was bigger and faster than Cooper, neglecting to mention that Ali fought even bigger and stronger guys than Tyson without being knocked down.
The same can be said about Lewis, people mention Mccall and Rahman as reason's why he wouldn't do well against Ali or George, but he just didn't bring his A game to those fight's for some reason or another. If we try and compare champions from different era's and speculate how they would do against each other, we should always assume that they would bring their A game to each of these hypothetical fights, as they would know beforehand their opponent will be top class.
I think Alis knock down against Cooper just showes that if you dont respect your opponent any fighter can get hurt if caught right.
Clay was giving no respect,just waiting for the 5th round so his predictinon would be right.
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Before the Cooper fight they ran in hyde park It was from speakers corner to about where the Hilton is by the Horse track. Id been Boxing 18 months and watching it got thinking Ive got to get fit like that and thinking fucking hell.
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Did you ever get to beat the horses, scrap?
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I thought it was Duran that beat horses?
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sparking 'em aint as impressive as out running 'em
is it?
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I say sparkin 'em over out running 'em.... 8)
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In faiirness the horse wasnt full gallup, but it was still impressive. where as being in the same gym as Lewis I was never impressed, bit one paced one dimensional nothing to excite.
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Lennox was a good fighter, the best of his generation, but I think Ali was cut from a different cloth as a fighter. Take away some of the sainthood that social revisionists are now ladling on Ali and just look at him as a fighter in his prime. Big guy, even today, 230 lbs and 6'3", fast as a middleweight with a style that has never been successfully emulated, especially at heavyweight. he had every punch in the book, great reflexes and great chin and heart. He also has the mental strength that true champions have. MOst people would agree that Ali as a fighter is an all time great and is one of the best heavyweights ever.
Who was a round in the 90's apart from Lewis, Bowe and Holyfield. Ali beats everyone else easily. Bowe is too fat and stupid to get near a prime Ali and I see him getting blitzed much like Cleveland Williams. Yes, Lewis as big and fast but so was Ernie Terrell and Ali literally played with him. I know Lewis is better than terrell but if anyone thinks that the size of Lewis or Bowe would give Ali problems is sorely mistaken. Ali has better skills than lennox, a bterr chin and trusted his chin more than Lewis did.
Holyfield, I think gives Ali a tough fight, but not life and death like Frazier gave him. Its a question of styles and I think Ali outpoints Evander all day. There's no way Holyfield is going to stop Ali and I cant really see him outboxing, outhustling or outworking prime Ali.
Tyson was finished in the 90's so i'm not going to count him - though i think 80's Tyson v Ali is mouth watering.
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How would prime Ali have done in this era ill make few match ups and see if you agree
Lennox Lewis vs Ali = Ali outjab's Lewis and wins decision
Riddick Bowe vs Ali = Ali to quick on his feet and jab would give Bowe problems Ali wins decision
Ray Mercer vs Ali = Ali way way to quick for Mercer and wins comfortable decision
Mike Tyson vs Ali = Doesn't matter if its early 90s Tyson or late 90s Tyson Ali stops Tyson late
Evander Holyfield vs Ali = In good fight Ali wins decision but this fight would be bit harder than people expect
Tommy Morrison vs Ali = No doubt in my mind Ali stops Morrison in middle rounds
Oliver McCall vs Ali = Ali shuts out Oliver and wins one sided decision
Right i think i covered most of them do you guys and girls agree with this ??
Most top 10 boxers of the 80s, 90s and 00s would have defeated great Ali without much problem - just take a look at Jesse Owens' (the greatest athlete ever) records and compare them to the records decades later.
Jesse Owens vs. Asafa Powell in 100 meter would be a joke, right? The same with Ali vs. Lewis.
Boxing is not that different from other sports, even we do like it so much, and a prime Ali of the 60s would not stand much of a chance against a prime 00s in Lewis, Klitschko, Tyson, Evander and so on
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How would prime Ali have done in this era ill make few match ups and see if you agree
Lennox Lewis vs Ali = Ali outjab's Lewis and wins decision
Riddick Bowe vs Ali = Ali to quick on his feet and jab would give Bowe problems Ali wins decision
Ray Mercer vs Ali = Ali way way to quick for Mercer and wins comfortable decision
Mike Tyson vs Ali = Doesn't matter if its early 90s Tyson or late 90s Tyson Ali stops Tyson late
Evander Holyfield vs Ali = In good fight Ali wins decision but this fight would be bit harder than people expect
Tommy Morrison vs Ali = No doubt in my mind Ali stops Morrison in middle rounds
Oliver McCall vs Ali = Ali shuts out Oliver and wins one sided decision
Right i think i covered most of them do you guys and girls agree with this ??
Most top 10 boxers of the 80s, 90s and 00s would have defeated great Ali without much problem - just take a look at Jesse Owens' (the greatest athlete ever) records and compare them to the records decades later.
Jesse Owens vs. Asafa Powell in 100 meter would be a joke, right? The same with Ali vs. Lewis.
Boxing is not that different from other sports, even we do like it so much, and a prime Ali of the 60s would not stand much of a chance against a prime 00s in Lewis, Klitschko, Tyson, Evander and so on
Wasn't Foreman from 70s and look how well he did against young fighters and please don't mention Klitschko he wouldn't win he is too robotic i've seen Vitali and he didn't impress me much Wlad is better fighter than him but he has weak chin and running is totally different you can't compare that with boxing because if that statement was true wouldn't heavyweights be getting fitter and better ?? and is that the case ?? no there getting fatter and fatter and slower and slower Ali is arguably the most athletic hw of all and your telling me Ali wouldn't beat prime Holyfield didn't 40+ Larry Holmes give Holyfield all he could handle ?? and as for others read my other posts.
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Ali on his BEST NIGHT against Cleveland Williams, NO ONE. Doesn't matter who, no one would have beaten him.
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Ali on his BEST NIGHT against Cleveland Williams, NO ONE. Doesn't matter who, no one would have beaten him.
Agreed i find it hard for any hw to be that version of Ali he simply was like poetry in motion that night.
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Watching Ali was special because he completely broke the mold of what a heavyweight can do. He had the speed and movement of a fighter many weight classes down. His jab is one of the greatest, most effective, and beautiful to watch punches in the history of the sport. Add to that his incredible heart, chin, and ability to rise in big moments (or when people gave him no chance)....you have a legend (and that does include his larger than life persona outside of the ring).
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Originally Posted by Elephant Beer
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How would prime Ali have done in this era ill make few match ups and see if you agree
Lennox Lewis vs Ali = Ali outjab's Lewis and wins decision
Riddick Bowe vs Ali = Ali to quick on his feet and jab would give Bowe problems Ali wins decision
Ray Mercer vs Ali = Ali way way to quick for Mercer and wins comfortable decision
Mike Tyson vs Ali = Doesn't matter if its early 90s Tyson or late 90s Tyson Ali stops Tyson late
Evander Holyfield vs Ali = In good fight Ali wins decision but this fight would be bit harder than people expect
Tommy Morrison vs Ali = No doubt in my mind Ali stops Morrison in middle rounds
Oliver McCall vs Ali = Ali shuts out Oliver and wins one sided decision
Right i think i covered most of them do you guys and girls agree with this ??
Most top 10 boxers of the 80s, 90s and 00s would have defeated great Ali without much problem - just take a look at Jesse Owens' (the greatest athlete ever) records and compare them to the records decades later.
Jesse Owens vs. Asafa Powell in 100 meter would be a joke, right? The same with Ali vs. Lewis.
Boxing is not that different from other sports, even we do like it so much, and a prime Ali of the 60s would not stand much of a chance against a prime 00s in Lewis, Klitschko, Tyson, Evander and so on
Wasn't Foreman from 70s and look how well he did against young fighters and please don't mention Klitschko he wouldn't win he is too robotic i've seen Vitali and he didn't impress me much Wlad is better fighter than him but he has weak chin and running is totally different you can't compare that with boxing because if
that statement was true wouldn't heavyweights be getting fitter and better ?? and is that the case ?? no there getting fatter and fatter and slower and slower Ali is arguably the most athletic hw of all and your telling me Ali wouldn't beat prime Holyfield didn't 40+ Larry Holmes give Holyfield all he could handle ?? and as for others read my other posts.
Yes, that is the point. A very very very very great Ali was in his prime about 85 kg to 95 kg - a prime Wlad is about 120 kg and he is much more fit than Ali was....
Ali vs. Wlad would be NO go whatever you like it to be.....evolution....development....
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Originally Posted by Elephant Beer
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How would prime Ali have done in this era ill make few match ups and see if you agree
Lennox Lewis vs Ali = Ali outjab's Lewis and wins decision
Riddick Bowe vs Ali = Ali to quick on his feet and jab would give Bowe problems Ali wins decision
Ray Mercer vs Ali = Ali way way to quick for Mercer and wins comfortable decision
Mike Tyson vs Ali = Doesn't matter if its early 90s Tyson or late 90s Tyson Ali stops Tyson late
Evander Holyfield vs Ali = In good fight Ali wins decision but this fight would be bit harder than people expect
Tommy Morrison vs Ali = No doubt in my mind Ali stops Morrison in middle rounds
Oliver McCall vs Ali = Ali shuts out Oliver and wins one sided decision
Right i think i covered most of them do you guys and girls agree with this ??
Most top 10 boxers of the 80s, 90s and 00s would have defeated great Ali without much problem - just take a look at Jesse Owens' (the greatest athlete ever) records and compare them to the records decades later.
Jesse Owens vs. Asafa Powell in 100 meter would be a joke, right? The same with Ali vs. Lewis.
Boxing is not that different from other sports, even we do like it so much, and a prime Ali of the 60s would not stand much of a chance against a prime 00s in Lewis, Klitschko, Tyson, Evander and so on
Wasn't Foreman from 70s and look how well he did against young fighters and please don't mention Klitschko he wouldn't win he is too robotic i've seen Vitali and he didn't impress me much Wlad is better fighter than him but he has weak chin and running is totally different you can't compare that with boxing because if
that statement was true wouldn't heavyweights be getting fitter and better ?? and is that the case ?? no there getting fatter and fatter and slower and slower Ali is arguably the most athletic hw of all and your telling me Ali wouldn't beat prime Holyfield didn't 40+ Larry Holmes give Holyfield all he could handle ?? and as for others read my other posts.
Yes, that is the point. A very very very very great Ali was in his prime about 85 kg to 95 kg -
a prime Wlad is about 120 kg and he is much more fit than Ali was....
Ali vs. Wlad would be NO go whatever you like it to be.....evolution....development....
Much more fit ?? Ali can still bounce on his toes after 15 rounds and Wlad has had stamina problems in past.
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Originally Posted by Elephant Beer
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How would prime Ali have done in this era ill make few match ups and see if you agree
Lennox Lewis vs Ali = Ali outjab's Lewis and wins decision
Riddick Bowe vs Ali = Ali to quick on his feet and jab would give Bowe problems Ali wins decision
Ray Mercer vs Ali = Ali way way to quick for Mercer and wins comfortable decision
Mike Tyson vs Ali = Doesn't matter if its early 90s Tyson or late 90s Tyson Ali stops Tyson late
Evander Holyfield vs Ali = In good fight Ali wins decision but this fight would be bit harder than people expect
Tommy Morrison vs Ali = No doubt in my mind Ali stops Morrison in middle rounds
Oliver McCall vs Ali = Ali shuts out Oliver and wins one sided decision
Right i think i covered most of them do you guys and girls agree with this ??
Most top 10 boxers of the 80s, 90s and 00s would have defeated great Ali without much problem - just take a look at Jesse Owens' (the greatest athlete ever) records and compare them to the records decades later.
Jesse Owens vs. Asafa Powell in 100 meter would be a joke, right? The same with Ali vs. Lewis.
Boxing is not that different from other sports, even we do like it so much, and a prime Ali of the 60s would not stand much of a chance against a prime 00s in Lewis, Klitschko, Tyson, Evander and so on
Wasn't Foreman from 70s and look how well he did against young fighters and please don't mention Klitschko he wouldn't win he is too robotic i've seen Vitali and he didn't impress me much Wlad is better fighter than him but he has weak chin and running is totally different you can't compare that with boxing because if
that statement was true wouldn't heavyweights be getting fitter and better ?? and is that the case ?? no there getting fatter and fatter and slower and slower Ali is arguably the most athletic hw of all and your telling me Ali wouldn't beat prime Holyfield didn't 40+ Larry Holmes give Holyfield all he could handle ?? and as for others read my other posts.
Yes, that is the point. A very very very very great Ali was in his prime about 85 kg to 95 kg -
a prime Wlad is about 120 kg and he is much more fit than Ali was....
Ali vs. Wlad would be NO go whatever you like it to be.....evolution....development....
Much more fit ?? Ali can still bounce on his toes after 15 rounds and Wlad has had stamina problems in past.
Exactly. There is no doubt that over the years things have advanced. But there is still nobody EVEN CLOSE in the heavyweight division as fast as Ali. As for fitness...Ali was lasted the entire duration of his Frazier fights...when he was already PAST his prime. Either of the Klitchkos would be would on their backs gasping for air in similar circumstances.
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Ali on his BEST NIGHT against Cleveland Williams, NO ONE. Doesn't matter who, no one would have beaten him.
Agreed i find it hard for any hw to be that version of Ali he simply was like poetry in motion that night.
Which begs the question "WELL WHO THE HELL WAS CLEVELAND WILLIAMS???"
Now be sure to make certain that it is not I who said either Klitschko would beat Ali....size and power might have given Ali trouble but a similar boxer went 11 with Vitali and Wlad has not really fought anyone as good as Ali (which can be said for pretty much ALL fighters of this era).
I just think it would be harder for Ali not being the biggest as he was throughout his career.....vs Frazier, Foreman, Liston.....Ali was ALWAYS the biggest
6'3 215-225 (in his prime) 81" reach......great hand speed and chin.
It would be tough to deal with in any era BUT considering Bowe, Lewis, Vitali, Wladimir, all have size and power over him as well as were athletically gifted due to new training......it's hard to say where and when Ali would slip up......but I don't think he'd win every fight and I don't think it would be easy because let's not kid ourselves, it wasn't easy for him THEN!!!!!!
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Ali v Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9cGINC-kkQ
Ali was dancing away from what ? an old man as the commenetator put it who wasnt expected to go the distance
Ali gets caught by a jab just after 4 minutes in and then takes a right and has to hold, he trys the shuffle just before 5 minutes and gets caught, the bloke wasnt untouchable and if he gets caught while doing his dancing and shuffling best by an old journey man in his prime and best showing fight, what would a prime Tyson do.
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Ali v Williams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9cGINC-kkQ
Ali was dancing away from what ? an old man as the commenetator put it who wasnt expected to go the distance
Ali gets caught by a jab just after 4 minutes in and then takes a right and has to hold, he trys the shuffle just before 5 minutes and gets caught, the bloke wasnt untouchable and if he gets caught while doing his dancing and shuffling best by an old journey man in his prime and best showing fight, what would a prime Tyson do.
This isn't prime Tyson though its 90s Tyson and prime Tyson wasn't that unbeatable remember he struggled to beat average James Quick Tillis.
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Same as Ali struggled got floored and looked to have lost to Doug Jones and Henry Cooper before he was champ
Mike had only been a pro for 14 months when he beat Tillis
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Yeah ok, 90's was in the title
Prime for prime though, If we never saw Mikes demise from Spinks onwards, would you really be willing to bet your house that Ali would win
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Yeah ok, 90's was in the title
Prime for prime though, If we never saw Mikes demise from Spinks onwards, would you really be willing to bet your house that Ali would win
I think we know the answer to that, NO!!!
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Same as Ali struggled got floored and looked to have lost to Doug Jones and Henry Cooper before he was champ
Mike had only been a pro for 14 months when he beat Tillis
What ????? Ali beat Jones no controversy look at this Data Boxing reported blows as: Clay 376/707 53%; Jones 114/283 40%
Well what about Tyson struggling with Tucker in his prime i know Big H going to be bit mad at me for mentioning this again ;D
