Re: Pacquiao solid pick in rematch
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
MAB is just a dirty fighter. I hope he wouldn't intentionaly headbutt or sucker punch Pac this time.
to be honest i think mab would resort to some headbuttings and dirty tactics just to get into manny's head. a cut here and there wouldn't augur well for the pacman. remember the pac-agapito sanchez and the first pac-morales encounter? if mab could give manny a bad cut then he has a chance to win a decision though i still see him fading in the late rounds. or marco could win via stoppage on the outside chance he catches pac flush with several and successive bad intention punches which i think is possible but unlikely.
Re: Pacquiao solid pick in rematch
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Originally Posted by KKisser
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
MAB is just a dirty fighter. I hope he wouldn't intentionaly headbutt or sucker punch Pac this time.
to be honest i think mab would resort to some headbuttings and dirty tactics just to get into manny's head. a cut here and there wouldn't augur well for the pacman. remember the pac-agapito sanchez and the first pac-morales encounter? if mab could give manny a bad cut then he has a chance to win a decision though i still see him fading in the late rounds. or marco could win via stoppage on the outside chance he catches pac flush with several and successive bad intention punches which i think is possible but unlikely.
Hope MAB does not resort to dirty tactics. I still admire the guy. If he does resort to dirty tactics, then he is doomed to infamy.This is his last fight, hope he leaves a good name to boxing.
Re: Pacquiao solid pick in rematch
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Originally Posted by miles
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This fight makes me think of the Naseem Hamed fight and the 3rd Morales fight....Barrera has seen out both. It wouldnt be the first time Barrera has upset the odds.
Its scheduled for 12. Thats enough for a decision. Pac can train for 50 as far as I care. Its about the strategy. We all know Pac is gonna try and throw as much as he can in 12 rounds. Its for Barrera to land the telling blows and keep the defence sharp.
Morales showed how it can be done, and Pac hasnt improved as much as his propagandists declare. Barrera has 10 times the smarts of Pac and that will tell in this fight.
That so called "strategy" will end up tragedy for MAB. Let's see how MAB maintain that "sharp defence" for full 12 rounds ;D. So much for "10 times smarter" when it was Barrera who got battered in their first encounter ;).
Morales showed how it can be done indeed. But Pac showed also how it can be done (Pac-EM 2&3). It's either you're just a hater or incarcerated since 2003 if you think Pac hasn't improved since his last bout with MAB.
I dont feel as if im a hater. Ive stated on many an occasion that Pac is an extremely good fighter. Numerous times.
You keep bringing up the first fight as your reference point. The way I see it though is that Barrera is the expert at making adjustments. He will adjust once more and make this a very interesting fight. It wont be a replica of the first fight which you think it will, since its always your reference point.
Now, I have given due respect to both fighters and cannot in all credibility be accused of hating.
Come on now :-*
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Re: Pacquiao solid pick in rematch
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by KKisser
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
MAB is just a dirty fighter. I hope he wouldn't intentionaly headbutt or sucker punch Pac this time.
to be honest i think mab would resort to some headbuttings and dirty tactics just to get into manny's head. a cut here and there wouldn't augur well for the pacman. remember the pac-agapito sanchez and the first pac-morales encounter? if mab could give manny a bad cut then he has a chance to win a decision though i still see him fading in the late rounds. or marco could win via stoppage on the outside chance he catches pac flush with several and successive bad intention punches which i think is possible but unlikely.
Hope MAB does not resort to dirty tactics. I still admire the guy. If he does resort to dirty tactics, then he is doomed to infamy.This is his last fight, hope he leaves a good name to boxing.
You admire MAB? ??? Well, I don't. I respect his boxing skills but I don't respect him as a person coz he's full of sh*t. I salute other boxers that play fair eventhough they are way beyond the likes of a legend. Atleast they are man enough to fight fairly not like mab the cheater. Many mexicans deserve to be called a legend like julio cesar chavez, erik morales, even juan manuel marquez because they dont resort to cheap unsportsmanlike behavior and cheat. But sorry to say that marco antonio barrera doesnt deserve to be with them.
The most f*cked up that I heard from him is that he said he would revenge the defeat of his fellow mexicans against the pacman. LMFAO!!! After he cheated his fellow countrymen hes got the guts to say that? The evidence of this is erik morales - he wants to be on the side of the pacman and that is because he knows how to be cheated by mab. Erik knows that, thats why he wants to talk to manny before the fight. erik is a true gladiator, a legend and is a fair fighter that is why even though his a mexican he cant be at the side of this cheating mab. mab just want all the mexicans to support him just like the support of the filipinos for the pacman. But unlike mab, pacman is a fair fighter and does not resort to cheating thats why the filipino and the people of the world loves him.
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by KKisser
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
MAB is just a dirty fighter. I hope he wouldn't intentionaly headbutt or sucker punch Pac this time.
to be honest i think mab would resort to some headbuttings and dirty tactics just to get into manny's head. a cut here and there wouldn't augur well for the pacman. remember the pac-agapito sanchez and the first pac-morales encounter? if mab could give manny a bad cut then he has a chance to win a decision though i still see him fading in the late rounds. or marco could win via stoppage on the outside chance he catches pac flush with several and successive bad intention punches which i think is possible but unlikely.
Hope MAB does not resort to dirty tactics. I still admire the guy. If he does resort to dirty tactics, then he is doomed to infamy.This is his last fight, hope he leaves a good name to boxing.
You admire MAB? ??? Well, I don't. I respect his boxing skills but I don't respect him as a person coz he's full of sh*t. I salute other boxers that play fair eventhough they are way beyond the likes of a legend. Atleast they are man enough to fight fairly not like mab the cheater. Many mexicans deserve to be called a legend like julio cesar chavez, erik morales, even juan manuel marquez because they dont resort to cheap unsportsmanlike behavior and cheat. But sorry to say that marco antonio barrera doesnt deserve to be with them.
The most f*cked up that I heard from him is that he said he would revenge the defeat of his fellow mexicans against the pacman. LMFAO!!! After he cheated his fellow countrymen hes got the guts to say that? The evidence of this is erik morales - he wants to be on the side of the pacman and that is because he knows how to be cheated by mab. Erik knows that, thats why he wants to talk to manny before the fight. erik is a true gladiator, a legend and is a fair fighter that is why even though his a mexican he cant be at the side of this cheating mab. mab just want all the mexicans to support him just like the support of the filipinos for the pacman. But unlike mab, pacman is a fair fighter and does not resort to cheating thats why the filipino and the people of the world loves him.
Maybe it's just a brain fart but I honestly don't remember MAB being considered a cheater or dirty fighter. Could you site some examples for me? Apparently, I need a refresher course and I would like to look up those instances where he has cheated on a consistant basis.
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by brucelee
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MAB is just a dirty fighter. I hope he wouldn't intentionaly headbutt or sucker punch Pac this time.
to be honest i think mab would resort to some headbuttings and dirty tactics just to get into manny's head. a cut here and there wouldn't augur well for the pacman. remember the pac-agapito sanchez and the first pac-morales encounter? if mab could give manny a bad cut then he has a chance to win a decision though i still see him fading in the late rounds. or marco could win via stoppage on the outside chance he catches pac flush with several and successive bad intention punches which i think is possible but unlikely.
Hope MAB does not resort to dirty tactics. I still admire the guy. If he does resort to dirty tactics, then he is doomed to infamy.This is his last fight, hope he leaves a good name to boxing.
You admire MAB? ??? Well, I don't. I respect his boxing skills but I don't respect him as a person coz he's full of sh*t. I salute other boxers that play fair eventhough they are way beyond the likes of a legend. Atleast they are man enough to fight fairly not like mab the cheater. Many mexicans deserve to be called a legend like julio cesar chavez, erik morales, even juan manuel marquez because they dont resort to cheap unsportsmanlike behavior and cheat. But sorry to say that marco antonio barrera doesnt deserve to be with them.
The most f*cked up that I heard from him is that he said he would revenge the defeat of his fellow mexicans against the pacman. LMFAO!!! After he cheated his fellow countrymen hes got the guts to say that? The evidence of this is erik morales - he wants to be on the side of the pacman and that is because he knows how to be cheated by mab. Erik knows that, thats why he wants to talk to manny before the fight. erik is a true gladiator, a legend and is a fair fighter that is why even though his a mexican he cant be at the side of this cheating mab. mab just want all the mexicans to support him just like the support of the filipinos for the pacman. But unlike mab, pacman is a fair fighter and does not resort to cheating thats why the filipino and the people of the world loves him.
Maybe it's just a brain fart but I honestly don't remember MAB being considered a cheater or dirty fighter. Could you site some examples for me? Apparently, I need a refresher course and I would like to look up those instances where he has cheated on a consistant basis.
I'll be honored to refresh your memory ;D
cheated pacman- headbutt at the chest, punch after referee told them to stop punching. cheated juan manuel marquez- punched him while he was down. morales- elbowed morales in the face. hamed- held him and wrestled him to the corner of the ring. only some of the unfair dirty tactics of mab. unfair play means you cheat. non of this dirty tactics are needed up in the boxing ring. I hope that would be enough info for you ;)
if not, please do take your time to watch this quick footage...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ij96-Rk1kpM
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Thanks for the refresh PAC. :coolclick: The video didn't really show anything bad against Juarez, I remember the NAZ thing and applauded at the time (but that was at that time and I really felt he needed it). The EM thing was a chump move and WOW, how did he not get the DQ for doing such a dickish thing against JMM. God, I've watched a lot of MAB but don't remember shit about how much of a prick he can be.
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Thanks for the refresh PAC. :coolclick: The video didn't really show anything bad against Juarez, I remember the NAZ thing and applauded at the time (but that was at that time and I really felt he needed it). The EM thing was a chump move and WOW, how did he not get the DQ for doing such a dickish thing against JMM. God, I've watched a lot of MAB but don't remember S*** about how much of a prick he can be.
Cc back bro +38
You're right. He was only taunting Juarez, bad mouthing him in the ring and sh*t. More like verbal. MAB wasn't really desperate against Juarez.
But expect a frustrated MAB comes oct.6. Don't be surprised if MAB pulls a fast one (cheat).
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Pacstraight,
I know why you don't like MAB. Watching his fights, I know the guy sometimes resort to dirty tactics. I still admire the guy for the schooling he had given to Naz. That was classical. As for his being a dirty fighter, I can forget about it when he was fighting other guys. But against PAc, I won't tolerate it. No way will I forgive him if he goes dirty.
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Originally Posted by brucelee
Pacstraight,
I know why you don't like MAB. Watching his fights, I know the guy sometimes resort to dirty tactics. I still admire the guy for the schooling he had given to Naz. That was classical. As for his being a dirty fighter, I can forget about it when he was fighting other guys. But against PAc, I won't tolerate it. No way will I forgive him if he goes dirty.
Cc
I can tolerate arrogant fighters like Hamed or Darchinyan. Maybe I just have zero tolerance for dirty b@stard fighters ;D
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Re: Pacquiao solid pick in rematch
hmm selective memories some of you, hmm hamed picking someone up and slamming them to the canvas, JCC being ordered to punch on the hip to slow his opponent down, Morales swinging for mabs father. If you don't like Barrera be honest and don't invent shit. The times I've seen Barrera react is when fighters have done stuff across him - real or imagined.
the MAB/Hamed thing was funny, as was Marco smacking Morales in the face for calling him a fag. More fighters should do that 8)
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Originally Posted by Missy
hmm selective memories some of you, hmm hamed picking someone up and slamming them to the canvas, JCC being ordered to punch on the hip to slow his opponent down, Morales swinging for mabs father. If you don't like Barrera be honest and don't invent S***. The times I've seen Barrera react is when fighters have done stuff across him - real or imagined.
the MAB/Hamed thing was funny, as was Marco smacking Morales in the face for calling him a fag. More fighters should do that 8)
MAB always the one who initiate trouble everytime he's in desperate situation or feels like somebody just stomped on his balls (machismo thing). Imagine MAB smacking Pac in press conference and MAB receiving a counter straight left with Pac's bare hand?... lmfao, yeah that'd be fun to see and "more fighter should do that".
I don't like Barrera and I ain't inventing sh*t. There you go! ;)
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I think Barrera will defy the oddsmakers and win this one. He has to, to continue to maintain his image as a force to be reckoned with in boxing, and he knows. I thought he won the Marquez fight and I think he will be more focused than ever this time around, seeing what Pacquiao did to him last time. To do it though, he must settle down and not try to brawl with Pacquiao and if he does, he must really pick his moments. You know he will be studying the first Morales/Pacman fight and will most likely improve upon that gameplan. I dont think Barrera was himself in this fight and from what I have heard it doesnt look like Pacquiao is going to be himself in this one. He has taken a lot of time off to sing, do movies and run for political office and I've heard he has been slacking a bit in his training. Marco Antonio Barrera by unanimous decision.
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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I will stick this pencil into my right eyeball if MAB pulls an upset.
I advise both eyes.
done 8)
...in you dreams
How about taking them Pacquiao posters down instead if he loses ;D
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I will stick this pencil into my right eyeball if MAB pulls an upset.
I advise both eyes.
done 8)
...in you dreams
How about taking them Pacquiao posters down instead if he loses ;D
HAHA! Good one. :fyou: ;D
I don't have Pac's poster nor pictures (except internet), honest to god. But I do have collections of his fights from 1995-07 DVDs and videos. I got the Pac-EM complete trilogy t-shirts, "PACMAN" nike endorsement shirt signed by him.
But I do NOT have any of his movies, posters, and difinitely his CDs. NO WAY I'm having those! ;D
Just stick with our bet. ;)
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I think Barrera will defy the oddsmakers and win this one. He has to, to continue to maintain his image as a force to be reckoned with in boxing, and he knows. I thought he won the Marquez fight and I think he will be more focused than ever this time around, seeing what Pacquiao did to him last time. To do it though, he must settle down and not try to brawl with Pacquiao and if he does, he must really pick his moments. You know he will be studying the first Morales/Pacman fight and will most likely improve upon that gameplan. I dont think Barrera was himself in this fight and from what I have heard it doesnt look like Pacquiao is going to be himself in this one. He has taken a lot of time off to sing, do movies and run for political office and I've heard he has been slacking a bit in his training. Marco Antonio Barrera by unanimous decision.
Barrera wasn't himself that night? ??? Oh, so Barrera was having split personality disorder (schitzo)? :-\
And about those Pac's bad habit that you mentioned, Pac did those stupid crap before Jorge Solis fight... not after. And you know what?... Pac still managed to score a KO eventhough he was sloppy in early rounds. He stepped on the gas, picked up the pace when he realized he got cut by accidental headbutt.
Lesson learned for Pac, and he's taking this fight with MAB more serious than Pac-MAB 1.
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I think Barrera will defy the oddsmakers and win this one. He has to, to continue to maintain his image as a force to be reckoned with in boxing, and he knows. I thought he won the Marquez fight and I think he will be more focused than ever this time around, seeing what Pacquiao did to him last time. To do it though, he must settle down and not try to brawl with Pacquiao and if he does, he must really pick his moments. You know he will be studying the first Morales/Pacman fight and will most likely improve upon that gameplan. I dont think Barrera was himself in this fight and from what I have heard it doesnt look like Pacquiao is going to be himself in this one. He has taken a lot of time off to sing, do movies and run for political office and I've heard he has been slacking a bit in his training. Marco Antonio Barrera by unanimous decision.
He has had an outstanding career and even if he gets KO'd in this fight it would be safe to assume that everyone would still see him as a force. I'm going with PAC but I would also be happy to see MAB win.
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Pacquiao reaches 100 rounds of sparring
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb....sparring.html
... and MAB got knocked down by Valero? Don't qoute me on that one coz it's only a rumor over @ Pacland. I'm pretty sure it's bullshit.
