Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

New Joe interview:
http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/7396044

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I can just see Kessler with a slightly bemused, ripened face after 12 rounds of action 8)

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I see a little sil-ho-etto of a man,
Skaramouche, skaramouche look he does the fandango,
Thunderbolts and lightning, they are really frightening meeeee.

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Bravo, Rhun ^-^

Calzaghe is one of the most complete fighters I've ever seen. If he had better management/no injuries/took more risks himself,he would be a boxing MEGASTAR right now. I'd take him over anyone at 168,Pavlik,Taylor,Hopkins and an old RJJ. (Sorry I was watching his career set,amazing stuff!)

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Joe by decision seems to be the leading vote in all 3 polls.

I hope Joe doesn't start dancing around the ring and get's on a bike. That would really disappoint me :(

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mate i can promise you one thing (even tho i would be more than happy to see joe do it) calzaghe will never dance and fight on his bike...

Kessler as you ur self said is flat fotted, and Joe if he moved with his foot work with make kessler look silly.

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I was up newbirdge this saturday - you often hear boxers or wrtiers say about fighters in their best shape... i swear down, Calzaghe is in te best shape he has eveyr been i, imean this guy has neevr been one to sport a 6 pac untill he drained down to the weigh in, he has abs now anyone would be proud of.. newbrdige is a very small gym, anyone who has seen ti will know what i mean, but if you havnt you would piss your sellf laughgin as you would never exppect anyone to train in this let alone 3 world champions...


but i stood back just covering the fight - but you had to see it, joe worked the bas 2 feet in front of me, moved around, passing me with a polite smile, humble as F***... i swear i have never seen so much focuse in my life... i have said on here that kessler could win because joe is this and that... i take it all back now, if kessler wins then he is the F****** S***... Joe is 95% as good as he has ever been, no question he is in the best shape EVER, speed everything.. the only thign is the loss of power with hand trouble...

guys honestly i cant totaly explain it, i was standing back just watching on as he passed me from from his shadow boxing work to work the pads, he give me a polite smile but the eys, with a split seconed you could see that in the eyes there was nothing but 100% focus, i mean S*** iw as scared to say anything - it was that stone cold look, the one to strike fear in you...

sure alot fo you are thining "yeah poor welsh boy going on about his hero" but there was a stone cold dead look in there...

i said all along this will be a tought and close, i still maintain it will be tough, close, no Joewill win without to much trouble...

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Just curious, have you seen him training prior to other fights before for comparison?

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in person no, but when i say best shape, he has been sporting a 6 pack maywather would be proud of for weeks now, normaly joe has abs in the weigh in when he is drained... after the session the were all saying they never seen joe like this before.

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Joe's in great shape. So what? Joe always comes in shape. Not only that, how many fighters don't say there in the best shape of there career before a certain fight?

AAAAGggghhhhhhhkkkkk!

I'm so damn excited about this fight. I kind of forgot about it for a while but I've been reading articles and watching old fights and I'm started to get a little hyper. I booked the afternoon off work tomorrow so I can go to the weigh in, anyone else going?

I'm really interested to see how they compare against eachother in real life, it's kind of hard to tell from just watching them on the tv.

Look on BBC sport. They have a video (about the centre of the page) of Calzaghe in the gym last week. I was getting a bit nervous but after watching it I feel better about the fight. Joe seems so relaxed. So does Kessler in fact from other videos I've seen.

It doesn't matter who you want to win. I've a feeling that we'll all be witnessing something special Saturday night.

Stylistically(is that a word?) this is a great matchup, two totally different approaches. It will be interesting to see who can make the other guy fight his fight. I see a great chessmatch in the making. The one that adapts the best in the fight will probably edge it out. I feel a split decision coming on.

I posted this on another thread but I thought I would post it here also.


For me the keys to victory are as follows:


Joe - "Volume punching" Joe needs to try and outland Kessler if possible 3 to 1.
"In and Out style" Joe needs to punch on the inside and step out but he must also throw something preferably a jab.
"Use the entire ring" Joe needs to use his skills which IMO are above Kess if Joe can box well as we've seen him do then he'll be fine.

Kessler - "Put some mustard on his punches" Kess needs to throw power punches but he needs to be selective not
conservative but selective on the ones that he throws with the most power.
"Have the last say" Kess needs to realize the Joes gonna flurry regardless of what goes on Kess needs to make sure that
as Joe finishes his flurry that he MUST land at least 1 hard punch if possible 2.
"Late rally" Kess needs to bring on the pressure late in the fight Kess needs to close out the fight wining the last rounds
he can not afford to let Joe win any of the late rounds.

IWHO two things need to happen for Kessler to win...he needs to cover the fwock up & wait for the flurries to stop...then counter.

Joe aint gonna burn out like some "experts" have said.

People keep saying that Joe's old & will get old over night against Kessler. Bullshit. Kessler's got a good jab & power which is all well & fancy...but you need a bit more craft, IWHO, to topple Calzaghe.

If you could give Kessler some overnight ring savy...I'd heavily favor him...but that aint gonna happen...just like Joe won't get old overnight.

This will be a great fight & I think Joe's gonna shine again...but not like the master class act that he pulled against Lacy.

Many have also noted that Kessler is biger "in the body," than Joe is.
This may illustrate power but for Joe it could also illustrate a target. If he were to hit Mikkel's body he may preserve his hands and slow what i expect to be a relentless jabbing march forward.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

IWHO two things need to happen for Kessler to win...he needs to cover the fwock up & wait for the flurries to stop...then counter.

Joe aint gonna burn out like some "experts" have said.

People keep saying that Joe's old & will get old over night against Kessler. Bullshit. Kessler's got a good jab & power which is all well & fancy...but you need a bit more craft, IWHO, to topple Calzaghe.

If you could give Kessler some overnight ring savy...I'd heavily favor him...but that aint gonna happen...just like Joe won't get old overnight.

This will be a great fight & I think Joe's gonna shine again...but not like the master class act that he pulled against Lacy.

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I think Kessler will be tougher than Lacy, because he will throw more, and might be a bit more accurate but I really hope that Calzaghe can put the afterburners on and really throw all the punches he can at Kessler like he did with Lacy. It's so close now I can almost taste it. Well...taste the beer beforehand anyway.

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IWHO two things need to happen for Kessler to win...he needs to cover the fwock up & wait for the flurries to stop...then counter.

Joe aint gonna burn out like some "experts" have said.

People keep saying that Joe's old & will get old over night against Kessler. Bullshit. Kessler's got a good jab & power which is all well & fancy...but you need a bit more craft, IWHO, to topple Calzaghe.

If you could give Kessler some overnight ring savy...I'd heavily favor him...but that aint gonna happen...just like Joe won't get old overnight.

This will be a great fight & I think Joe's gonna shine again...but not like the master class act that he pulled against Lacy.

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I think Kessler will be tougher than Lacy, because he will throw more, and might be a bit more accurate but I really hope that Calzaghe can put the afterburners on and really throw all the punches he can at Kessler like he did with Lacy. It's so close now I can almost taste it. Well...taste the beer beforehand anyway.

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Kessler will certainly be a much harder hill to climb than Lacy...but he aint the mountain that many of the experts are making him out to be.

I love Kessler...I think that he's great & he's good for the division...but Calzaghe is Calzaghe & he sets the bar pretty damned high.

It's pretty amusing to here people refer to Calzaghe as a slapper...especially after he beats his opponent senseless. I watched about 4 of Joe's fights today on the job & paid close attention to his jab & left hook combination...what's funny is that he's thrown out about 4 jabs prior to firing the left either straight down the pipe or hooked it around the guard.

I just can't see Kess compensating for all that speed & accuracy. I'm still of the opinion that he'll need to either keep his jab in Joe's chops or just cover the up & then counter to be successful.

I could be wrong...have been before. ;D

Im as hyped for a fight as you can be. I really hope Calzaghe comes and out and fights as well we know he can. If he is anywhere near his best then Kessler is simply in over his head.

Calzaghe really is that good and I hope it shows through again.

Movement, output, handspeed, footwork, stamina, experience in big fights. It all comes down to Calzaghe. Kessler has a great jab and arguably has more power. A jab can be worked around and power can always be nullified by speed.

Its still a Calzaghe decision for me.

kessler 5th rd ko

and if you got a promblem with that
well it aint my problem O0

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Originally Posted by Headson

kessler 5th rd ko

and if you got a promblem with that
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Kessler goes 12 with Andrade and is now stopping Calzaghe in 5?!

I do have a problem with that. Its just plain dumb.

Would you care to back up anything you say?

Just thought i'd have a quick look at video footage of Kessler before voting. He looks a good fighter, good jab, excellent right cross and good speed. Never the less I think Calzaghe will be too quick, the main factor being his awesome footwork. By no means is Kessler flat footed but I think come saturday he may well come to look like he is ala Lacy.

People who haven't seen many of JCs fights don't realise how quick he is especially with combination punching and blinding footwork. I've heard people mention Mundine being as quick but having just watched the Kessler-Mundine fight I'm wholly unconvinced. Mundine throws a quick punch but not with the footwork and in the combinations we'll hopefully see JC throw tomorrow.

The fact I've been a member here for 5 years and rarely post though I am doing so now is testament to how excited I am about this fight. In the immortal words, sorry lyrics, of PJ and Duncan, lets get ready to rumble (UK reference for the Americans who won't get that)!

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Just thought i'd have a quick look at video footage of Kessler before voting. He looks a good fighter, good jab, excellent right cross and good speed. Never the less I think Calzaghe will be too quick, the main factor being his awesome footwork. By no means is Kessler flat footed but I think come saturday he may well come to look like he is ala Lacy.

People who haven't seen many of JCs fights don't realise how quick he is especially with combination punching and blinding footwork. I've heard people mention Mundine being as quick but having just watched the Kessler-Mundine fight I'm wholly unconvinced. Mundine throws a quick punch but not with the footwork and in the combinations we'll hopefully see JC throw tomorrow.

The fact I've been a member here for 5 years and rarely post though I am doing so now is testament to how excited I am about this fight. In the immortal words, sorry lyrics, of PJ and Duncan, lets get ready to rumble (UK reference for the Americans who won't get that)!

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Good points about the footwork man.5 years here and 69 posts?!Wow!!!!

So what is everyone else doing in the build-up to the fight?

Personally, I'll be having a few mates around about lunchtime or so, and then sit around the house, play a bit of Wii Boxing and watch a few of Joe Calzaghe's previous fights. We'll probably then head down the M4 to Cardiff talking s**t and predictions, maybe make a few ridiculous bets, and then head to the "Mochyn Du" in Cardiff for a jar or three.

Then its off to the stadium for the start of the bill...and moaning about the fact that you can't get beer to the seats, and have to drink in the concourse. As the night wears on, a few more beers will be drunk, our confidence will be high, and hopefully we meet some Danes to toast, joke about with, and maybe drink a few pints more.

(This part is, at present, fictional)

And then, its midnight, and the real stuff starts. Enzo knocks out Azzaoui and Joe Calzaghe wins. I fall asleep in the car home. ;)

Probably ave a few J's at home like and then down the Prince of wales Before making my way into the stadium...spend most of the time until Calzaghe and Enzo in the smoking area.

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

So what is everyone else doing in the build-up to the fight?

Personally, I'll be having a few mates around about lunchtime or so, and then sit around the house, play a bit of Wii Boxing and watch a few of Joe Calzaghe's previous fights. We'll probably then head down the M4 to Cardiff talking s**t and predictions, maybe make a few ridiculous bets, and then head to the "Mochyn Du" in Cardiff for a jar or three.

Then its off to the stadium for the start of the bill...and moaning about the fact that you can't get beer to the seats, and have to drink in the concourse. As the night wears on, a few more beers will be drunk, our confidence will be high, and hopefully we meet some Danes to toast, joke about with, and maybe drink a few pints more.

(This part is, at present, fictional)

And then, its midnight, and the real stuff starts. Enzo knocks out Azzaoui and Joe Calzaghe wins. I fall asleep in the car home. ;)

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you lucky bastard!! :)
Damn! your so lucky....
I'll be here at home we're gonna make it a poker night here.
So we'll be playing cards and drinking tequila & beer.

:drunks: CHEERS!

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So what is everyone else doing in the build-up to the fight?

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Probably going to hammer down some booze, kick it in the theatre room, & chow down on wings & pizza prior to the bout. After that...it's going to be a good going through of Kessler & Calzaghe's bouts blasted out on the 12' x 12'.

Gotta keep it simple & sober to a point...got the DRBR to run. :drunks:

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So what is everyone else doing in the build-up to the fight?

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Probably going to hammer down some booze, kick it in the theatre room, & chow down on wings & pizza prior to the bout. After that...it's going to be a good going through of Kessler & Calzaghe's bouts blasted out on the 12' x 12'.

Gotta keep it simple & sober to a point...got the DRBR to run. :drunks:

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23 hours and 59 minutes till the fight is scheduled to start.....now I'm really psyched, the countdown is on!

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So what is everyone else doing in the build-up to the fight?

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Probably going to hammer down some booze, kick it in the theatre room, & chow down on wings & pizza prior to the bout. After that...it's going to be a good going through of Kessler & Calzaghe's bouts blasted out on the 12' x 12'.

Gotta keep it simple & sober to a point...got the DRBR to run. :drunks:

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23 hours and 59 minutes till the fight is scheduled to start.....now I'm really psyched, the countdown is on!

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I'm currently pulling an all nighgter & watching Kessler vs Siaca, Beyer, Andrade, & Mundine in comparison to Calzaghe vs Lacy, Mundine, Bika, Manfredo, Eubank, & Mkrtchian after I get findished with this swirling turd of a Brock Chambers bout.

The countdown is on & the clock is ticking

:boxingmatch: LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE! :boxingmatch:

Damn! I'm ready for this.... 8)

Random question but is Joe C the only guy who wears his RING belt and actually cares about it. In recent interviews Ive seen Katsidis and a few other fighters say that they don't really care about it etc!

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Random question but is Joe C the only guy who wears his RING belt and actually cares about it. In recent interviews Ive seen Katsidis and a few other fighters say that they don't really care about it etc!

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I didn't know Kats was Ring Mag. champ ??? Or was he just saying he didn't care for it.

I know both Rafa & Israel care about the belt and carry it.
Tarver carried his
Bernard carried his
Solis carries his
JMMormeck carries his
I've read Pavlik talking about being Ring Mag Champ
Hatton carries his
Casamayor carries his
I know Cazares carried his when he had it

Just about to leave to make my way to the fight and all now, can't wait going be fantastic...

Have a good one ;)

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Just about to leave to make my way to the fight and all now, can't wait going be fantastic...

Have a good one ;)

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CC#441 Preme you lucky bastard!!!


:drunks: Cheers! mate have a pint or 5 on me. 8)

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Just about to leave to make my way to the fight and all now, can't wait going be fantastic...

Have a good one ;)

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CC#441 Preme you lucky B******!!!


:drunks: Cheers! mate have a pint or 5 on me. 8)

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haha cc back;)

i got a cal late - scored a ring side seat for fuck all, great to know the guys who r fighting huh:P? grab a plane and hurry on over, can have my old ticket and crash on my sofa haha:p

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Just about to leave to make my way to the fight and all now, can't wait going be fantastic...

Have a good one ;)

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CC#441 Preme you lucky B******!!!


:drunks: Cheers! mate have a pint or 5 on me. 8)

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haha cc back;)

i got a cal late - scored a ring side seat for fuck all, great to know the guys who r fighting huh:P? grab a plane and hurry on over, can have my old ticket and crash on my sofa haha:p

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Yeah!
I got 1,500 dlls. laying about for a 2 way flight to Wales. :(
What a treat that will be be sure to snap some pictures and share them with us. 8)

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Just about to leave to make my way to the fight and all now, can't wait going be fantastic...

Have a good one ;)

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CC#441 Preme you lucky B******!!!


:drunks: Cheers! mate have a pint or 5 on me. 8)

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haha cc back;)

i got a cal late - scored a ring side seat for F*** all, great to know the guys who r fighting huh:P? grab a plane and hurry on over, can have my old ticket and crash on my sofa haha:p

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Yeah!
I got 1,500 dlls. laying about for a 2 way flight to Wales. :(
What a treat that will be be sure to snap some pictures and share them with us. 8)

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Doesnt have to be a 2 way flight, Wales is a fine place. I'm off to the pub now, might watch it there, or back home, try not to get too fucked to forget what happens.

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Just about to leave to make my way to the fight and all now, can't wait going be fantastic...

Have a good one ;)

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CC#441 Preme you lucky B******!!!


:drunks: Cheers! mate have a pint or 5 on me. 8)

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haha cc back;)

i got a cal late - scored a ring side seat for F*** all, great to know the guys who r fighting huh:P? grab a plane and hurry on over, can have my old ticket and crash on my sofa haha:p

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Yeah!
I got 1,500 dlls. laying about for a 2 way flight to Wales. :(
What a treat that will be be sure to snap some pictures and share them with us. 8)

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Doesnt have to be a 2 way flight, Wales is a fine place. I'm off to the pub now, might watch it there, or back home, try not to get too fucked to forget what happens.

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The large majority of people on this site think Joe will win on points and I agree .

He is clearly buzzing at the prospect of this fight and we can expect to see the best of him now he is motivated .He is the fighter with the quicker hands and more experience and thats what seperates them IMO. Kess can bang but is abit too conventional , boxing in straight lines with a one , two

Joe wins on points and if hes impressive can make claim to being the number 1 p4p fighter on the planet .

Not sure what's up with the connection...but the bout's about to kick off...I'll do me drunken best to keep up with conectivity!!!

Cheers bitches!!! It's on...theyr'e about to come into the ring.

I'm right here with you Wacko; Kessler is in the ring. Damn my stomach is tight.

Kessler's in & here comes Joe!!!

yeah the server went down spent an hour on hold to america to get no reply then got ahold of the support guy online...PISS POOR and i am well pissed off and will be dumping this dediceted server next week... total shit for the money i'm paying >:mad

anyhooo glad where back intime for the fight and i have locked out the guests... this piece of shiit server should be stable from now on with the guests out.

SORRY FOR THE DOWN TIME.

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yeah the server went down spent an hour on hold to america to get no reply then got ahold of the support guy online...PISS POOR and i am well pissed off and will be dumping this dediceted server next week... total S*** for the money i'm paying >:mad

anyhooo glad where back intime for the fight and i have locked out the guests... this piece of shiit server should be stable from now on with the guests out.

SORRY FOR THE DOWN TIME.

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:coolclick: bwoss.

Good lookin out!!! Wer'e about to get under way.

As long as its on now Saddo. CC for that mate ;)

Thank God your here boss, My cable is out AGAIN!!! and I have been hopping from site to site trying to get info, Hated the thought of not being with the gang for this one....

Don't know if the news came out yet ( I am sure it has) Enzo won 4th rd Stoppage

Joe Calzaghe (43 fights with 0 losses & 32 ko‘s) vs. Mikkel Kessler (39 fights with 0 losses & 29 ko’s) Round 1: Joe runs out jabbing. Kessler returns fire. Body shot by Joe.Right & left by Joe. Left by Joe. Right by Kessler. Left hook by Joe & he lunges on Kess. Kessler jabs. Right hand by Kessler. Double jab by Joe. Left hand by Kess. Kess content to jab. Nice exchange. Lef thand by Joe. Right hand by Kessler.Left hand by Kessler. Jab & a straight right by Joe. Left hand & a right by Kessler. Left hook by Joe. 1-2 by Kessler. Left hand by Joe. Jab by Joe. Right hand by Kessler after Joe swung wide. 1-2 by Kessler. Right hand by Kessler. Body shot by Joe & Kessler counters with a right.

Nice!!!! Even round.

Joe's a bundle of nerves. Needs to chill. Kessler seems totally focused.