The contract Calderon vs Cazares ll (Let's Talk here pics & vids)

I have to say that Cazares just lost all my respect. :mad: I can understand all his frustration hitting the air for 7 rounds, but he is a BAD looser, and that is what he is a looser... During the interview he made comments saying that Calderon not only had the favor of the fans, but also the favor of the score cards suggesting that he was robbed, and indicated that this was ashame. I am actually scratching my head thinking what fight was seeing the judge that had it so close, 67-66. Actually, during the first fight the only judge that gave the decision to Cazares was from Puerto Rico. But, he was probably watching a football game during the fight.

So I don't know why Cazares is saying that he cannot win even knocking out in Puerto Rico, the problem is that you have to do it with your punches not with your head. The only one who should be ashame is Cazares who come the day of the fight almost 5 divisions over the limit to fight a small guy and get his ass kicked for the second time. The end was unfortunate because I was hoping we could see the full action for 12 rounds. I am not sure what makes Cazares think that 3 punches and a headbutt, which was his best punch, make him deserve the decision :confused: I am hoping that Calderon go for bigger things and forget about Cazares and unify his title. Then, he is speaking to move to 112...

Cazares if you think that Puerto Rico is treating you so unfair, you can take your plane directly to Los Mochis and stay there... :-X But, you are forgeting all the respect that we gave you when you beat guys like Dieppa and Sanchez, you just lost mine...

I'm here...

I actually thought Calderon was very fortunate that the stopage came. Anyone that knows Cazares knows his best work is done late in the fight.
I saw something happen I'm not sure if it's just me but there was something about the way Calderon sat in his corner as they poured water on him and rubbed his neck. I saw very heavy breathing by Calderon and Cazares was able to hit him well when he switched southpaw.

With all that being said, a win is win and Calderon won.
Congrats to him and I think this should mark the end of this one. They both need to move onto other things.
Calderon vs. Solis and Cazares should go after Canchilla or Sosa.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I'm here...

I actually thought Calderon was very fortunate that the stopage came. Anyone that knows Cazares knows his best work is done late in the fight.
I saw something happen I'm not sure if it's just me but there was something about the way Calderon sat in his corner as they poured water on him and rubbed his neck. I saw very heavy breathing by Calderon and Cazares was able to hit him well when he switched southpaw.

With all that being said, a win is win and Calderon won.
Congrats to him and I think this should mark the end of this one. They both need to move onto other things.
Calderon vs. Solis and Cazares should go after Canchilla or Sosa.

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I agree Cazares comes on late but I remember Calderon winning the last rounds of the 1st fight! So who knows.

Anyone that knows Calderon knows he ain't got power so going the distance is something he's used to!

Calderon was boxing brilliantly & I feel he would have continued to do so!

But your right Mick they should both move on & maybe down the round they will meet up again for a third.

I want to see Calderon/ Solis!!!

I think Cazares should return to 112 at least!

Right...
The weight issue... I agree he should move up to 112.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I'm here...

I actually thought Calderon was very fortunate that the stopage came. Anyone that knows Cazares knows his best work is done late in the fight.
I saw something happen I'm not sure if it's just me but there was something about the way Calderon sat in his corner as they poured water on him and rubbed his neck. I saw very heavy breathing by Calderon and Cazares was able to hit him well when he switched southpaw.

With all that being said, a win is win and Calderon won.
Congrats to him and I think this should mark the end of this one. They both need to move onto other things.
Calderon vs. Solis and Cazares should go after Canchilla or Sosa.

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I see what you're saying. From the shitty feed that I was watching, it appeared that Cazares was finally starting to land a few punches, and from the first round on I was seeing things that kind of reminded me of Cotto-Margarito. I'd never seen either fighter before, and I'm not saying the outcome would've been the same, but Calderon did look a bit gassed in his corner in the last few rounds.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I'm here...

I actually thought Calderon was very fortunate that the stopage came. Anyone that knows Cazares knows his best work is done late in the fight.
I saw something happen I'm not sure if it's just me but there was something about the way Calderon sat in his corner as they poured water on him and rubbed his neck. I saw very heavy breathing by Calderon and Cazares was able to hit him well when he switched southpaw.

With all that being said, a win is win and Calderon won.
Congrats to him and I think this should mark the end of this one. They both need to move onto other things.
Calderon vs. Solis and Cazares should go after Canchilla or Sosa.

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I see what you're saying. From the shitty feed that I was watching, it appeared that Cazares was finally starting to land a few punches, and from the first round on I was seeing things that kind of reminded me of Cotto-Margarito. I'd never seen either fighter before, and I'm not saying the outcome would've been the same, but Calderon did look a bit gassed in his corner in the last few rounds.

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OK, so it wasn't just me...
I noticed the water being poured along with the ice and neck rubbing.
Anyone that's seen Calderon before knows that's not like him.
When he came into the round he stood there in place with his hands up as Cazares threw shots. I'm not saying these were thunderous shots. Shit I even think the punches were hitting Calderons gloves but my point is that I saw a shift change there and I think Cazares would have switched it around.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I'm here...

I actually thought Calderon was very fortunate that the stopage came. Anyone that knows Cazares knows his best work is done late in the fight.
I saw something happen I'm not sure if it's just me but there was something about the way Calderon sat in his corner as they poured water on him and rubbed his neck. I saw very heavy breathing by Calderon and Cazares was able to hit him well when he switched southpaw.

With all that being said, a win is win and Calderon won.
Congrats to him and I think this should mark the end of this one. They both need to move onto other things.
Calderon vs. Solis and Cazares should go after Canchilla or Sosa.

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I see what you're saying. From the shitty feed that I was watching, it appeared that Cazares was finally starting to land a few punches, and from the first round on I was seeing things that kind of reminded me of Cotto-Margarito. I'd never seen either fighter before, and I'm not saying the outcome would've been the same, but Calderon did look a bit gassed in his corner in the last few rounds.

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OK, so it wasn't just me...
I noticed the water being poured along with the ice and neck rubbing.
Anyone that's seen Calderon before knows that's not like him.
When he came into the round he stood there in place with his hands up as Cazares threw shots. I'm not saying these were thunderous shots. Shit I even think the punches were hitting Calderons gloves but my point is that I saw a shift change there and I think Cazares would have switched it around.

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calderon did say after that he was feeling the body shots. i think it was going to be close at the end. to bad it ended early

I must agree Mick that I've never seen them pouring the bucket over Calderon before. But Calderon is one of the few fighters I feel could of fought 15 rounders without concern! Going the distance is one thing you can guarantee when Calderon fights!

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Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch

I have to say that Cazares just lost all my respect. :mad: I can understand all his frustration hitting the air for 7 rounds, but he is a BAD looser, and that is what he is a looser... During the interview he made comments saying that Calderon not only had the favor of the fans, but also the favor of the score cards suggesting that he was robbed, and indicated that this was ashame. I am actually scratching my head thinking what fight was seeing the judge that had it so close, 67-66. Actually, during the first fight the only judge that gave the decision to Cazares was from Puerto Rico. But, he was probably watching a football game during the fight.

So I don't know why Cazares is saying that he cannot win even knocking out in Puerto Rico, the problem is that you have to do it with your punches not with your head. The only one who should be ashame is Cazares who come the day of the fight almost 5 divisions over the limit to fight a small guy and get his ass kicked for the second time. The end was unfortunate because I was hoping we could see the full action for 12 rounds. I am not sure what makes Cazares think that 3 punches and a headbutt, which was his best punch, make him deserve the decision :confused: I am hoping that Calderon go for bigger things and forget about Cazares and unify his title. Then, he is speaking to move to 112...

Cazares if you think that Puerto Rico is treating you so unfair, you can take your plane directly to Los Mochis and stay there... :-X But, you are forgeting all the respect that we gave you when you beat guys like Dieppa and Sanchez, you just lost mine...

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Like you said, frustration. It got the best of Cazares. He'll feel diffrent afterwards.

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I see what you're saying. From the shitty feed that I was watching, it appeared that Cazares was finally starting to land a few punches, and from the first round on I was seeing things that kind of reminded me of Cotto-Margarito. I'd never seen either fighter before, and I'm not saying the outcome would've been the same, but Calderon did look a bit gassed in his corner in the last few rounds.

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OK, so it wasn't just me...
I noticed the water being poured along with the ice and neck rubbing.
Anyone that's seen Calderon before knows that's not like him.
When he came into the round he stood there in place with his hands up as Cazares threw shots. I'm not saying these were thunderous shots. Shit I even think the punches were hitting Calderons gloves but my point is that I saw a shift change there and I think Cazares would have switched it around.

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calderon did say after that he was feeling the body shots. i think it was going to be close at the end. to bad it ended early

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I will need to rewatch the interview because I do not recall this comment from Calderon. I am not saying it is not correct, I will just check, may be I was going for my beer at that moment. ;D

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

I'm here...

I actually thought Calderon was very fortunate that the stopage came. Anyone that knows Cazares knows his best work is done late in the fight.
I saw something happen I'm not sure if it's just me but there was something about the way Calderon sat in his corner as they poured water on him and rubbed his neck. I saw very heavy breathing by Calderon and Cazares was able to hit him well when he switched southpaw.

With all that being said, a win is win and Calderon won.
Congrats to him and I think this should mark the end of this one. They both need to move onto other things.
Calderon vs. Solis and Cazares should go after Canchilla or Sosa.

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I am not sure that Cazares was going to do any better in the last rounds, as Margarito did with Cotto. This is based on the first fight where Cazares could badly hurt Calderon, but the Iron Boy could survive and recovered his rithym to dominate the final rounds adn Calderon superb skills. Calderon was saying during his pre-fight interviews that he was going to choose right moment to stop a little and fight Cazares, and I believe he was starting to do that. He had indicated that his strategy was also to save some energy for those last rounds. With all punches that Cazares missed, I can think that he was more tired, and don't forget frustrated, than Calderon, but who knows if Cazares could connect a good body punch that took some air from Calderon also.

And, I also hope this is the end of this saga, and both of them move to other challenges... Cazares definitely should move up in weight division.

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Thanks for the news man, Calderon is gonna have a tough go at it again, it's really tougher for Calderon than Cazares, because he has to not get caught flush for the full 12 (I know he came back from being hurt last time) Cazares can end it with a few combos. Should be another entertaining bull vs. matador performance.

I'm gonna go against the grain here and say that Cazares takes Calderon out this time.

My prediction
Cazares 12th round KO

And please don't think I am underrating Calderon he an amazingly nimble guy, but I think Cazares will catch him hard late.

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Just watched the fight, and ocming into it mate i was with you, i thought Cazares was going to take this by a KO or TKO, but damn he fought so stupid.

I know it must suck figting a guy who only wnats to run and hold, but jesus Cazares was his own worset enemy at times, his stance was horrible and he was running about the ring throwing silly shots.

If he ad shown some control, picked his shots better, i think he would of won and maybe stopped him.

What a fight card!!!!! Sorry I'm reporting late, friends, but had to make up the late night to the wife with some heavy duty yard work. Got home at 2:30 pm after being at the fights, 'cause I live about an hour or so away from Bayamon.

First, the main event was a downer with that sudden ending, especially after all the fights that preceded it. The crowd was electric throughout (boxing is alive and well in P.R., folks!!), and all the fights were great. I think the crowd favorite was the "Rocky" Martinez fight. The way he got off the canvas and defiantly pounded his fists together as if to say...."Now we're fighting!! C'mon, let's rumble!!" And the way he finished it.... Benavides was reeling and backing away from all the head and murderous body shots "Rocky" was hitting him with. I was already hoarse after that fight.

Morel did great, too. He's starting to look a little long in the tooth, but I thought he fought a great tactical fight.

The Calderon-Cazares fight started out just like the first one, with Ivan expertly ducking and avoiding Cazares' wild shots, while landing some counters of his own. He was also jabbing fast and accurate. Too bad the end came so sudden. And yeah, as Puerto Rican Punch correctly stated in an earlier post, Cazares acted very much like the sore loser. The crowd (myself included) booed the sh*t out of him for that.

All in all, a tremendous experience. And a big win for Puerto Rico in the ongoing saga of Puerto Rican vs. Mexican champions.

Salud, my friends.

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P.S. - (Oh, by the way, the singer who sang the Mexican national anthem was fine as all hell, as were the ring girls. Just thought I'd throw that in there).

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