Pac vd DLH will be another Changing of the Guard!!

In David Diaz interview after his Pacquiao fight, David said that he thought Pacquiao has knives in his gloves and thought that he was fighting Freddy Krueger...

It's the general perception of boxing people that Pacquiao can't KO Hoya but can Pacquiao's knives slice up Hoya's face that will lead to a TKO or decision win for PAC?

Here's some photos of Pacquiao's recent opponents.

David Diaz (June 28, 2008 )

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Juan Manuel Marquez (March 15, 2008 )

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Marco Antonio Barrera (October 6, 2007)

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When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts???

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Dude your faith in PAC is unbelieveable but I commend you for that, this fight if it pushes thru is not a changing of guards but a tragedy for us Filipinos.

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Let's visit this thread after the fight. You will be proven wrong.

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I hope so.

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In the Phillipines even imbiciles can generally type some english and access the internet.

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What about it? Can we be blamed for being colonized by America? Of course, we can speak and type English (sometimes) better than the American themselves.

FYI, English is our medium of instruction from nursery to post graduate.:cool:


By the way, I can understand clearly what the starter of this thread is saying but I just can't change my prediction that Pacquaio will be KOed against DLH.

If Pac wins then that will be great for the Philippines. As to becoming the bigger celebrity than DLH, I don't think so.

In the boxing world, he could be bigger than DLH if he wins this one but that's something only time will tell.

Look at what Oscar fists did to the face of Wifredo Rivera, Fernando Vargas, Arturo Gatti and think what will happen to Pac's face

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Look at what Oscar fists did to the face of Wifredo Rivera, Fernando Vargas, Arturo Gatti and think what will happen to Pac's face

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Those were years ago ;D . Did you noticed I presented PAC's last 3 recent fights?

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Look at what Oscar fists did to the face of Wifredo Rivera, Fernando Vargas, Arturo Gatti and think what will happen to Pac's face

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Those were years ago ;D . Did you noticed I presented PAC's last 3 recent fights?

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And they were also bigger fighters than Pac. Pac is a little guy, compared to Oscar. And he will get destroyed.

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Look at what Oscar fists did to the face of Wifredo Rivera, Fernando Vargas, Arturo Gatti and think what will happen to Pac's face

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Those were years ago ;D . Did you noticed I presented PAC's last 3 recent fights?

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And they were also bigger fighters than Pac. Pac is a little guy, compared to Oscar. And he will get destroyed.

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Sure... but do you think PAC can make one slice (cut) on Hoya's face?

Honestly I've been out of the loop .
What weight is this going to be at?

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Those were years ago ;D . Did you noticed I presented PAC's last 3 recent fights?

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And they were also bigger fighters than Pac. Pac is a little guy, compared to Oscar. And he will get destroyed.

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Sure... but do you think PAC can make one slice (cut) on Hoya's face?

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Felix Trinidad couldn't. Ike Quartey couldn't. Ricardo Mayorga couldn't. Pac won't either

147?

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And they were also bigger fighters than Pac. Pac is a little guy, compared to Oscar. And he will get destroyed.

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Sure... but do you think PAC can make one slice (cut) on Hoya's face?

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Felix Trinidad couldn't. Ike Quartey couldn't. Ricardo Mayorga couldn't. Pac won't either

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Who were the boxers able to inflict a cut on Hoya's face?

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147?

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Yes 147... that's the plan...

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Sure... but do you think PAC can make one slice (cut) on Hoya's face?

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Felix Trinidad couldn't. Ike Quartey couldn't. Ricardo Mayorga couldn't. Pac won't either

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Who were the boxers able to inflict a cut on Hoya's face?

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I think he bled slightly against Vargas. But I'm not sure. That's the thing. Oscar has never shown skin that cuts easily. He will laugh at Pac's punches

If The Former 130 pounder Featherfisted Forbes can Damage DLH's Face, Pac can inflict way more damage to DLH.

Now check the last 5 opponents of DLH... They are still Pretty after the DLH fight. Forbes a little bit Bruised but not as worst as DLHs.

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If The Former 130 pounder Featherfisted Forbes can Damage DLH's Face, Pac can inflict way more damage to DLH.

Now check the last 5 opponents of DLH... They are still Pretty after the DLH fight. Forbes a little bit Bruised but not as worst as DLHs.

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Pac ain't no Steve Forbes. Forbes fought at 154 before. He's naturally bigger than Pac

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If The Former 130 pounder Featherfisted Forbes can Damage DLH's Face, Pac can inflict way more damage to DLH.

Now check the last 5 opponents of DLH... They are still Pretty after the DLH fight. Forbes a little bit Bruised but not as worst as DLHs.

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Pac ain't no Steve Forbes. Forbes fought at 154 before. He's naturally bigger than Pac

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Pac Ain't no Forbes!!! Forbes Power & speed is no way Close to Pac's. Forbes naturally Bigger but Pac is way more talented.

Photos of Hoya's face from his most recent fight against Steve Forbes last May.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4...1b77d13aa3.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8...orbes50cd5.jpg

De La Hoya isn't a money chaser, he has foughten the best opposition, I truly think he believes Pacquaio is the best challenge for him, and the biggest fight he could have to leave his career. I think its more that this fight will bein the spotlight of sports media like Mayweather-De La HOya, and that Margarito-De La HOya wouldn't be this big, not because of the money, but because De La HOya wants to go out with a bash.

Because Pac is on the top of the hill. Beating Pac would greatly raise him up.

How many threads are you going to start about this fight?

We should merge them all together.

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Photos of Hoya's face from his most recent fight against Steve Forbes last May.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4...1b77d13aa3.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8...orbes50cd5.jpg

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Look at DLH's face??? You guys criticizing Pac-DLH are campaigning For DLH-Margarito. I thought you guys cared for Boxer's welfare??? If Forbes can do that kind of Damage.. What do you think Margarito can do to DLH??? Have Mercy guys. Let him Fight Little Pac.

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Because Pac is on the top of the hill. Beating Pac would greatly raise him up.

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According to who? I ODLH beats PAC I will give him very little credit.
Nothing in this fight will improve my view of Oscar nor will it add any credit to his legacy.

Tale of the Tape

de la Hoya - Pacquiao
Height: 5'10.5" - 5'6.5"
Reach: 73" - 67"
Contract: Chooses everything - just signs
fights at 147: 12 - 0

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Reading from the replies, there's really no solid reason(s) why Hoya is picking Pacquiao (aside from money)...

This lead me to believe that there's some personal issues between Hoya and Pacquiao that needs to be settled on top of the ring...

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Naah,Its about the Dollars.You were Right the first time;D

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We all agree that it's primarily due to the huge money but Hoya already had so much money. Why he wanted to get into this loss-loss situation and suffer all the criticism thrown at him for picking a smaller warrior?

There must be something personal in this fight...

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MAYBE Hoya wants Pac to be destroyed by a Mexican.;D

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How many threads are you going to start about this fight?

We should merge them all together.

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No problem with me... We can merge them all

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Aside from MONEY, any more reason(s) why Oscar Dela Hoya is keen on fighting the smaller Pacquiao?
Oscar said it's personal... He felt betrayed by PAC in the past when PAC signed with GBP first then switched to Top Rank.

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This may be the following reasons why saddo.
1. Pac is an easier win for hoya.If hoya beats him he may be criticized for beating a guy coming up all the way from 106pnds. up to 147. That's 10 divisions south: quite shameful eh? But hey, pac is #1 p4p, beats him and you can brag: i beat the #1 p4p in the world etc., etc...
2. Roach insulted hoya by publicly saying hoya is old and faded, based on his training with him he said hoya is not the same hoya anymore.
3. Pac turned down hoya's golden boy to arum's top rank. He almost took that 100k$$$ but in the last minute, because of some technicalities of contract, was obliged to sign arum's toprank. Personally that's quite embarassing for hoya. So this fight might come down also for personal vendetta of hoya against pac for turning him down and making him a fool in front of everyone, and roach for the disrespectful comments he dished out in public.
4. Hoya doesn't want to fight mexicans or mexican-americans for his last farewell fight.
5. Hoya might do this for his fellow mexicans who lost on paper against pac, like mab(2x), jmm, and larios. All under goldenboy or was under goldenboy.(Since i heard mab is trying to make his own promotional outfit and planning to cut his ties with hoya.)
Sorry i thought i posted a wrong thread. Jeez...

Reading thru this thread wasted presicious minutes of my life that I can never get back :-\:p

this is good! people are talking about this matchup. will oscar blow pac away or will pac stand a chance? i'm curious to find out. :)

This fight is a joke.

Pac won't win. :mad:

This is a joke this is a worse step up than Williams possible with Pavlik.
Pac needs to stay light.

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Pac will dominate & KO Hatton. That's the easiest among the Pac's potential Superfight. No good Jab and No strong straight right is a No win against Pac. Hatton's Arms are too short(20") compared to Pac's 25". Pac will have a field day shooting hatton from the Outside

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PAC is no PBF


And PAC needs Joe Cortez to do that, Pac will be colliding a freight train Ricky Hatton, i can't imagine the wreck he will be into

I t would be good if Pacman won but I think his fans are deluded if they think he will

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I t would be good if Pacman won but I think his fans are deluded if they think he will

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It's not only us Fans who believe he will win. Roach Who trained Both DLH & Pac is very confident about this fight. Roach is not a coach who bullshit. He means what he says & he cares about his fighter . Look at Izzy Vasquez... he refused to train him, in the Rafa rematch coz he's worried about Izzy's health. The same with Bhop against Pavlik he also decline to be with bhop.

Remember what Roach said during the Pac-Lucero fight??? He said Pac is a threat to KO both MAB & EM. Guess what??? that one is done. Roach said He's not confident about the JMM fight... he's right coz Pac has a Hardtime with JMM. Diaz will be KOed... he's right again.

When Roach is this confident. You better bet some money on Pac.

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I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$

But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.

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If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction????

--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito??? Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner???
--Cotto??? He already lost his luster 0.

See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called it the Changing of the Guard.

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So the point of this stupid thread is a "changing of the PPV attraction guard?"

Seriously, I like Pac, he's very exciting to watch and a hellova fighter. But a lot of you Pac fans are a bit annoying.

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I don't look at this as a "changing of the gaurd" Everyone wants to fight Oscar for one reason...$$$$$$$$

But boxing wise, Oscar hasn't had a signifigant victory in 6 years!!! I don't think he is relevant as a fighter anymore.

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If Pac beats DLH, Then DLH finally retires, Who do you think will be the #1 PPV attraction????

--PBF?? He's retired. He's not entertaining anyway.
--Margarito??? Dream on!!
--Pavlik?? Possible, but who are his dance Partner???
--Cotto??? He already lost his luster 0.

See? Nobody there!!! That's why I called it the Changing of the Guard.

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So the point of this stupid thread is a "changing of the PPV attraction guard?"

Seriously, I like Pac, he's very exciting to watch and a hellova fighter. But a lot of you Pac fans are a bit annoying.

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How did I annoy you??? Did you answer the question?? If not Pac.. Who will be the next PPV king & let me know why????

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When Pac 1st fight in the US as a replacement opponent for Ledwaba, he's so impressive that HBO want to see him again.

When he took on Barrera as a Big Underdog and wins so impressively, Larry Merchant said the words, "This is the fight that will shake off the Boxing world."

When Pac Koed Morales, Mechant said "He just Got Bigger!!"

And Now it looks like a DLH fight is almost a sure fight to happen. It will happen and this will be the Changing of the guard as the Money Man of Boxing. DLH's making the Top Dollar for years. After Pac retires him, Pac will be the one commanding this top Dollars.

We thought it was PBF who will be the Money man after DLH. BUt he ran out of Opponents he thinks he can beat. So his money stops there.

Assuming Pac beats DLH which is not easy but I believe Pac will win. Pac's next fight after that will be the top money maker in Boxing. Here's my projected PPV buys on Pac's remaining fights for Greatness.

Pac-DLH.... 2M PPV
Pac-Hatton....1.6M PPV(could be more if he KO DLH)
Pac-JMM......1.4M PPV(could be more if Pac KO Hatton)
Pac-PBF.....Will break all records. (Could be a trilogy) This will be like 2M X 3 PPV+MOre than 6M PPV buys.

If Pac still wants extra cash...
Pac vs Nate, Juan Diaz, Gamboa, Khan, or even Margarito(If he still on top which I doubt) is still a very Big Money Maker.

Your thoughts???

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a very dangerous fight.

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How did I annoy you??? Did you answer the question?? If not Pac.. Who will be the next PPV king & let me know why????

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pavlik? cotto? or mijares perhaps?

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How did I annoy you??? Did you answer the question?? If not Pac.. Who will be the next PPV king & let me know why????

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pavlik? cotto? or mijares perhaps?

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Now you are annoying me!! Mijares???:11fb8:Are related to Amsterdam of ESB???

Cotto's destroyed!!! How you going to sell him???

Pavlik??? Maybe... I like him but the white bandwagon was so Crazy about MMA. By the time Pavlik turn the white people to Boxing, Pac will probably retired already & already Made his Millions.

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How did I annoy you??? Did you answer the question?? If not Pac.. Who will be the next PPV king & let me know why????

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pavlik? cotto? or mijares perhaps?

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Now you are annoying me!! Mijares???:11fb8:Are related to Amsterdam of ESB???

Cotto's destroyed!!! How you going to sell him???

Pavlik??? Maybe... I like him but the white bandwagon was so Crazy about MMA. By the time Pavlik turn the white people to Boxing, Pac will probably retired already & already Made his Millions.

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• amsterdam?!? dammit. dont compare me to that ignorant f-tard..
• cotto? destroyed? by whom? against margo whom he fought with a wrong gameplan? he lost the fight, yes. but destroyed? no.

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pavlik? cotto? or mijares perhaps?

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Now you are annoying me!! Mijares???:11fb8:Are related to Amsterdam of ESB???

Cotto's destroyed!!! How you going to sell him???

Pavlik??? Maybe... I like him but the white bandwagon was so Crazy about MMA. By the time Pavlik turn the white people to Boxing, Pac will probably retired already & already Made his Millions.

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• amsterdam?!? dammit. dont compare me to that ignorant f-tard..
• cotto? destroyed? by whom? against margo whom he fought with a wrong gameplan? he lost the fight, yes. but destroyed? no.

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So WTF you mentioned Mijares?? What Mijares fight you'll Pay in PPV???

Until Cotto redeem himself against Margarito, I called him destroyed. I doubt if he can beat Margarito.

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Now you are annoying me!! Mijares???:11fb8:Are related to Amsterdam of ESB???

Cotto's destroyed!!! How you going to sell him???

Pavlik??? Maybe... I like him but the white bandwagon was so Crazy about MMA. By the time Pavlik turn the white people to Boxing, Pac will probably retired already & already Made his Millions.

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• amsterdam?!? dammit. dont compare me to that ignorant f-tard..
• cotto? destroyed? by whom? against margo whom he fought with a wrong gameplan? he lost the fight, yes. but destroyed? no.

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So WTF you mentioned Mijares?? What Mijares fight you'll Pay in PPV???

Until Cotto redeem himself against Margarito, I called him destroyed. I doubt if he can beat Margarito.

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heheh. relaks dude, biro lang yung kay mijares. dati kong pangalan yung ibon sa larawan ko.
And no, cotto is not destroyed yet