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I hope this fight ends up happening now... Although Pac has said otherwise... I just want them to fight now cuz of his fans... Once Oscar blasts him out of there all his fucking minions will dispers back into the great abyss from which they came.
I hate blind Pac fans... I FUCKING HATE THEM
That PacBest2 guy is anoying as shit!
(Mind you I don't speak of all Pac fans... Just the totally bias retarded ones)
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70-30 purse split is not acceptable to Pacquiao. I'm not sure if one party will make a compromise and meet in the middle...
Why the hell would de la Hoya compromise, he holds the winning hand, the crowd draw. There are plenty of fighters that would take a 25% (still equal to their career high pay days)
Not taking the 30% split just shows PAC is just looking for a payday.
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Greed has it's hallucinogenic effect on people, can't believe PAC's handlers allowing this to happen:(
your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking
You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.
Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
Why did PAC back out again? Oh yeah MONEY, NOTHING BUT MONEY!!
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Per the fingers & brains of fightnews.com...Freddie Roach is pushing hard to try & talk Pacquiao into the Oscar fight. He says that fighting Soto is ridiculous.
Now I know that everyone loves Roach...but he's a gotdam fool.
Beating Soto is one step closer to unifying the division.
Beating Oscar is just a payday & another name on the bill...it means nothing. Oscar has fallen the fwock off & he's bringing nothing but cash to the table.
Boxing fans of days long gone may want to see this fight...or even casual goers that have heard the Oscar tagline...but dedicated fight fans & Pac fans either do or should want the Soto fight to materialize.
Pacquiao could make & break the division.
After that he should just continue onwards where he is, unify, & then move up to the next class & try to work his magic there.
WTF is wrong with this trainers?
Roach is either wanting to earn some green or he's got himself an axe to grind with Golden Bwoy Promotions, Oscar, & the Hops.
I suppose that we shall all just have to see.
Personally...Pac could earn a lot more fans by making a stand in the right spot...especially at lightweight & beyond...provided he works it correctly.
Honestly...I'd be ready to jump on board the fan train...provided he fought with his head. He's a good fighter, he's exciting, & all that...he's just not necessarily the type of fighter I like to follow.
But as I said...I'd love to see him stand & deliver...to me that's more important than fighting an old horse who's going to be a HOF'er based on his better days long gone.
Feel me?
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Why the hell would de la Hoya compromise, he holds the winning hand, the crowd draw. There are plenty of fighters that would take a 25% (still equal to their career high pay days)
Not taking the 30% split just shows PAC is just looking for a payday.
Anyone knows (even Oscar fans, or prior Oscar fans such as mesef!) that if you go looking for Oscar...that is all you get...a payday.
Oscar has'nt been Oscar for nearly 5 years now. He's lost more than he's won & it's painfully apparent that he's hardly even a shadow of his former self. I hate it...because Oscar used to be gutty & put on a show...now he flurries on the ropes here & there.
I just wish that he'd stick to promoting & making boxing better for the fans & the players...because honestly...he can do it.
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Per the fingers & brains of fightnews.com...Freddie Roach is pushing hard to try & talk Pacquiao into the Oscar fight. He says that fighting Soto is ridiculous.
You think Roach has some sour grapes left over from the Mayweather/ODLH fight?
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What ever his deteriorated skill set,Its clear and obvious Delahoya is very much the shot caller in this hyped up farce and Pac "needs" him.....not the other way around.
Pac has more than a few worthy challengers in his own neighborhood with Campbell,Guzman,Soto etc. and should get down to serious business inside the ring.
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killersheep
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Per the fingers & brains of fightnews.com...Freddie Roach is pushing hard to try & talk Pacquiao into the Oscar fight. He says that fighting Soto is ridiculous.
You think Roach has some sour grapes left over from the Mayweather/ODLH fight?
I think that it could be something along those lines or he's searching for fame & fortune through Pac...you never know...& I aint saying I do...I'm just speculating.
It's a bit weird though...lovin up to Oscar & then being the man to drop the ax on him.
Maybe Hopkins pissed in his cornflakes or shat in his salad or something. ;D
Honestly though...Roach needs to clam the fuck up & let Pacquiao do the right thing...or what's right in Wacko's erpinion... :o :p
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Pac has more than a few worthy challengers in his own neighborhood with Campbell,Guzman,Soto etc. and should get down to serious business inside the ring.
Agreed.
There are plenty of names out there to conquer at lightweight...even after unification.
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your right it is greed and money messing up there thinking
You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.
Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
Why did PAC back out again? Oh yeah MONEY, NOTHING BUT MONEY!!
It's respect for asking a fair share of the purse and asking what is due to him. If you learn to share more to your fellow deserving boxer then it's a sign of mutual respect. But if you want to monopolize the purse (say taking 70%) then it's a clear sign of greed for money.
Good that PAC turned down the unfair 70-30 offer from Oscar. PAC showed that Oscar can't impose his will on everybody everytime. Better for Oscar to retire now.
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
70-30 purse split is not acceptable to Pacquiao. I'm not sure if one party will make a compromise and meet in the middle...
Why the hell would de la Hoya compromise, he holds the winning hand, the crowd draw. There are plenty of fighters that would take a 25% (still equal to their career high pay days)
Not taking the 30% split just shows PAC is just looking for a payday.
Would you be happy if PAC takes the 30% and then take a dive? (Just like what Oscar did when he fought Hopkins) PAC deserves more in risking his health and giving his best for this fight. PAC always comes to fight...
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
70-30 purse split is not acceptable to Pacquiao. I'm not sure if one party will make a compromise and meet in the middle...
Why the hell would de la Hoya compromise, he holds the winning hand, the crowd draw. There are plenty of fighters that would take a 25% (still equal to their career high pay days)
Not taking the 30% split just shows PAC is just looking for a payday.
Would you be happy if PAC takes the 30% and then take a dive? (Just like what Oscar did when he fought Hopkins) PAC deserves more in risking his health and giving his best for this fight. PAC always comes to fight...
Your changing the topic, so you don't have to admit it's just about the money.
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
Why the hell would de la Hoya compromise, he holds the winning hand, the crowd draw. There are plenty of fighters that would take a 25% (still equal to their career high pay days)
Not taking the 30% split just shows PAC is just looking for a payday.
Would you be happy if PAC takes the 30% and then take a dive? (Just like what Oscar did when he fought Hopkins) PAC deserves more in risking his health and giving his best for this fight. PAC always comes to fight...
Your changing the topic, so you don't have to admit it's just about the money.
Hoya never learned... PAC can't be fooled with lots of money... Hoya tried to fool PAC with a suitcase full of money before but PAC eventually stood his ground Hoya was not the best promoter out there even with his vast riches...
Now Hoya fooling PAC again saying this is the biggest purse being at least two fold of the biggest purse PAC had recieved before but PAC dumps Hoya for the second time around...
Hoya really didn't get it that it's not the money but it's all about fair sharing and what is rightfully due to PAC for risking his health and giving the his best for this very difficult fight... PAC will not take a dive like what Hoya did before but PAC will try his best to defeat Hoya...
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
Would you be happy if PAC takes the 30% and then take a dive? (Just like what Oscar did when he fought Hopkins) PAC deserves more in risking his health and giving his best for this fight. PAC always comes to fight...
Your changing the topic, so you don't have to admit it's just about the money.
Hoya never learned... PAC can't be fooled with lots of money... Hoya tried to fool PAC with a suitcase full of money before but PAC eventually stood his ground Hoya was not the best promoter out there even with his vast riches...
Now Hoya fooling PAC again saying this is the biggest purse being at least two fold of the biggest purse PAC had recieved before but PAC dumps Hoya for the second time around...
Hoya really didn't get it that it's not the money but it's all about fair sharing and what is rightfully due to PAC for risking his health and giving the his best for this very difficult fight... PAC will not take a dive like what Hoya did before but PAC will try his best to defeat Hoya...
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Don't see how it's not about money based on what you said here.
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
Your changing the topic, so you don't have to admit it's just about the money.
Hoya never learned... PAC can't be fooled with lots of money... Hoya tried to fool PAC with a suitcase full of money before but PAC eventually stood his ground Hoya was not the best promoter out there even with his vast riches...
Now Hoya fooling PAC again saying this is the biggest purse being at least two fold of the biggest purse PAC had recieved before but PAC dumps Hoya for the second time around...
Hoya really didn't get it that it's not the money but it's all about fair sharing and what is rightfully due to PAC for risking his health and giving the his best for this very difficult fight... PAC will not take a dive like what Hoya did before but PAC will try his best to defeat Hoya...
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Don't see how it's not about money based on what you said here.
Yes we're talking money here but it's not the main subject... It's fair sharing and respect on what is rightfully due to the man is the primary object...
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
Hoya never learned... PAC can't be fooled with lots of money... Hoya tried to fool PAC with a suitcase full of money before but PAC eventually stood his ground Hoya was not the best promoter out there even with his vast riches...
Now Hoya fooling PAC again saying this is the biggest purse being at least two fold of the biggest purse PAC had recieved before but PAC dumps Hoya for the second time around...
Hoya really didn't get it that it's not the money but it's all about fair sharing and what is rightfully due to PAC for risking his health and giving the his best for this very difficult fight... PAC will not take a dive like what Hoya did before but PAC will try his best to defeat Hoya...
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Don't see how it's not about money based on what you said here.
Yes we're talking money here but it's not the main subject... It's fair sharing and respect on what is rightfully due to the man is the primary object...
Your boy doesn't have the pull you thought and you have admitted it was all about money all along have some rep for admitting the truth.
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
Your changing the topic, so you don't have to admit it's just about the money.
Hoya never learned... PAC can't be fooled with lots of money... Hoya tried to fool PAC with a suitcase full of money before but PAC eventually stood his ground Hoya was not the best promoter out there even with his vast riches...
Now Hoya fooling PAC again saying this is the biggest purse being at least two fold of the biggest purse PAC had recieved before but PAC dumps Hoya for the second time around...
Hoya really didn't get it that it's not the money but it's all about fair sharing and what is rightfully due to PAC for risking his health and giving the his best for this very difficult fight... PAC will not take a dive like what Hoya did before but PAC will try his best to defeat Hoya...
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Don't see how it's not about money based on what you said here.
it was for the money. that's the only reason this fight was being discuss. pac wants lots of money cuz he knows he will not win
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
Don't see how it's not about money based on what you said here.
Yes we're talking money here but it's not the main subject... It's fair sharing and respect on what is rightfully due to the man is the primary object...
Your boy doesn't have the pull you thought and you have admitted it was all about money all along have some rep for admitting the truth.
It could be that way for now.
Before this negotiations, PAC is happy to have Soto or Valero next and Hoya is thinking Tito or the winner of Cotto-Margo.
Negotiations broke down and PAC will probably settle with Soto while Hoya has no Tito, no Margo and scrambling to find another dance partner.
Hoya needs PAC more to go out with a BANG in his last fight.
I hope Vernon will defeat Mora this time around and eventually land in the Hoya fight. At least Vernon will have a good payday...
BTW thanks for the reps... :)
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
Yes we're talking money here but it's not the main subject... It's fair sharing and respect on what is rightfully due to the man is the primary object...
Your boy doesn't have the pull you thought and you have admitted it was all about money all along have some rep for admitting the truth.
It could be that way for now.
Before this negotiations,
PAC is happy to have Soto or Valero next and Hoya is thinking Tito or the winner of Cotto-Margo.
Negotiations broke down and PAC will probably settle with Soto while Hoya has no Tito, no Margo and scrambling to find another dance partner.
Hoya needs PAC more to go out with a BANG in his last fight.
I hope Vernon will defeat Mora this time around and eventually land in the Hoya fight. At least Vernon will have a good payday...
BTW thanks for the reps... :)
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Now you're talking those are great fights, I think Pac outworks Soto en route to hard earned victory in a FOTY candidate. Pac would make Valero look silly and show the public exactly why defense is important.
ODLH doesn't really need a bang to go out with, just a body, he'll sell out whatever venue he fights at and set PPV records because it's the end of his era. I still want ODLH vs. Winky, but I will settle for ODLH/Mora/Forrest.
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Pac taking 30% is still probably double/triple what he would make in any other fight...
Not that I'm paying to see this. Just saying Oscar's name is what will be pulling in 90% of the money so why shouldnt he get most of it?
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
Your boy doesn't have the pull you thought and you have admitted it was all about money all along have some rep for admitting the truth.
It could be that way for now.
Before this negotiations,
PAC is happy to have Soto or Valero next and Hoya is thinking Tito or the winner of Cotto-Margo.
Negotiations broke down and PAC will probably settle with Soto while Hoya has no Tito, no Margo and scrambling to find another dance partner.
Hoya needs PAC more to go out with a BANG in his last fight.
I hope Vernon will defeat Mora this time around and eventually land in the Hoya fight. At least Vernon will have a good payday...
BTW thanks for the reps... :)
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Now you're talking those are great fights, I think Pac outworks Soto en route to hard earned victory in a FOTY candidate. Pac would make Valero look silly and show the public exactly why defense is important.
ODLH doesn't really need a bang to go out with, just a body, he'll sell out whatever venue he fights at and set PPV records because it's the end of his era. I still want ODLH vs. Winky, but I will settle for ODLH/Mora/Forrest.
PAC has lots of options. After Soto or Valero, PAC can take the winner of Juan Diaz-Katsidis, winner of Campbell-Guzman, winner of Casa-JMM, winner of Hatton-Paulie, etc. etc.
Hoya can take anybody he wants. Fans don't care anymore... They just wish Hoya to stop fighting and end his lowballing antics.
Hoya fight is not the end for PAC, it's Hoya who needs PAC more at this point in time...
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
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SaddoBoxer
It could be that way for now.
Before this negotiations, PAC is happy to have Soto or Valero next and Hoya is thinking Tito or the winner of Cotto-Margo.
Negotiations broke down and PAC will probably settle with Soto while Hoya has no Tito, no Margo and scrambling to find another dance partner.
Hoya needs PAC more to go out with a BANG in his last fight.
I hope Vernon will defeat Mora this time around and eventually land in the Hoya fight. At least Vernon will have a good payday...
BTW thanks for the reps... :)
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Now you're talking those are great fights, I think Pac outworks Soto en route to hard earned victory in a FOTY candidate. Pac would make Valero look silly and show the public exactly why defense is important.
ODLH doesn't really need a bang to go out with, just a body, he'll sell out whatever venue he fights at and set PPV records because it's the end of his era. I still want ODLH vs. Winky, but I will settle for ODLH/Mora/Forrest.
PAC has lots of options. After Soto or Valero, PAC can take the winner of Juan Diaz-Katsidis, winner of Campbell-Guzman, winner of Casa-JMM, winner of Hatton-Paulie, etc. etc.
Hoya can take anybody he wants. Fans don't care anymore... They just wish Hoya to stop fighting and end his lowballing antics.
Hoya fight is not the end for PAC, it's Hoya who needs PAC more at this point in time...
Yes Pac does have a lot of options but all them options combined won't pay as much as that 30%.
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Now you're talking those are great fights, I think Pac outworks Soto en route to hard earned victory in a FOTY candidate. Pac would make Valero look silly and show the public exactly why defense is important.
ODLH doesn't really need a bang to go out with, just a body, he'll sell out whatever venue he fights at and set PPV records because it's the end of his era. I still want ODLH vs. Winky, but I will settle for ODLH/Mora/Forrest.
PAC has lots of options. After Soto or Valero, PAC can take the winner of Juan Diaz-Katsidis, winner of Campbell-Guzman, winner of Casa-JMM, winner of Hatton-Paulie, etc. etc.
Hoya can take anybody he wants. Fans don't care anymore... They just wish Hoya to stop fighting and end his lowballing antics.
Hoya fight is not the end for PAC, it's Hoya who needs PAC more at this point in time...
Yes Pac does have a lot of options but all them options combined won't pay as much as that 30%.
Really ??? It's reported that PAC making $3M to $5M in a fight in the lower division (130 down). PAC can possibly reach $10M for a Hatton fight in England...
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... http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6...0x23020yl8.jpg ...
Boxing headlines after the failed negotiations:
"Manny Pacquiao Refuses to Bow to Oscar's Demands"
"Pacman Dumps Oscar"
"Pacquiao turns down fight with Dela Hoya"
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That right there says it. He turned it down. Pac ran his mouth. But as soon as it looked like the fight might happen he biitched out. The 30% excuse was just that. An excuse.
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That right there says it. He turned it down. Pac ran his mouth. But as soon as it looked like the fight might happen he biitched out. The 30% excuse was just that. An excuse.
How can not accepting the terms "bitching out", he has the right and option to back out anyways. The fact that PAC has enough courage to fight a bigger man at the right price is already commendable, That I can't say for Oscar right now.
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That right there says it. He turned it down. Pac ran his mouth. But as soon as it looked like the fight might happen he biitched out. The 30% excuse was just that. An excuse.
How can that be an excuse when PAC already dumped Oscar twice already :lolhaha: ... PAC is one of the people where Oscar cannot impose his will...
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The Boxing Herald Show
Thu, 14 August 2008
http://boxingherald.libsyn.com/img/podcastIcon.gif BREAKING NEWS REGARDING PACQUIAO-DE LA HOYA
http://libsyn.com/images/boxingherald/callfreddie.jpg BoxingHerald.com was just informed by Manny Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach that negotiations for Pacquiao's fight with Oscar De La Hoya have NOT closed.
Roach also stated that he "wouldn't want a dime" if Pacquiao loses to De La Hoya.
Obviously, the LA based trainer wants the mega event to happen.
Direct download: roach808a.MP3
Category: podcasts -- posted at: 10:52 PM
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I believe in Coach Freddie Roach, he sounds sincere and genuine in PAC's safety and welfare, but I still believe PAC will lose this fight.
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Freddie Roach: "If Manny loses to Oscar De La Hoya, I don't want a dime, I don't want any money, I will have worked/trained for free."
That the confidence of a coach to his pupil...
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The infection has many forms :soapbox: ....suprised this soap opera Farce still has legs :biteit:
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That right there says it. He turned it down. Pac ran his mouth. But as soon as it looked like the fight might happen he biitched out.
The 30% excuse was just that. An excuse.
You're making fun of yourself VD. You don't know what you're saying.;D;D;D
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The infection has many forms :soapbox: ....suprised this soap opera Farce still has legs :biteit:
Of course, intriguing match-ups will not die immediately... Here's one of the latest news... It seems Oscar will try to salvage it...
link --> Oscar De La Hoya: 'Pacquiao Still Possible, Margarito Not!'
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SaddoBoxer
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You can associate "greed and money" on Oscar but not on Pacquiao. Do you think money is the prime motivating factor why Pacquiao is calling out and challenging Oscar? I don't think so coz a win over Oscar will elevate Pacquiao's boxing legacy in an all time high.
Defeating Oscar (tho a very difficult task for PAC) would give PAC more leverage in taking remaining bigger fights ahead.
Why did PAC back out again? Oh yeah MONEY, NOTHING BUT MONEY!!
It's respect for asking a fair share of the purse and asking what is due to him. If you learn to share more to your fellow deserving boxer then it's a sign of mutual respect. But if you want to monopolize the purse (say taking 70%) then it's a clear sign of greed for money.
Good that PAC turned down the unfair 70-30 offer from Oscar. PAC showed that Oscar can't impose his will on everybody everytime. Better for Oscar to retire now.
It's a matter of who holds the cards and it's not Pac! ODLH will still make money off Pac with a fighter/fighters within his stable and Pac will just earn a lot less. ARUM is the bad element, ODLH has the luxury of being the fighter and co-promoter while Pac has the misfortune of being an Arum puppet.
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SaddoBoxer
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
Yes we're talking money here but it's not the main subject... It's fair sharing and respect on what is rightfully due to the man is the primary object...
Your boy doesn't have the pull you thought and you have admitted it was all about money all along have some rep for admitting the truth.
It could be that way for now.
Before this negotiations, PAC is happy to have Soto or Valero next and Hoya is thinking Tito or the winner of Cotto-Margo.
Negotiations broke down and PAC will probably settle with Soto while Hoya has no Tito, no Margo and scrambling to find another dance partner.
Hoya needs PAC more to go out with a BANG in his last fight.
I hope Vernon will defeat Mora this time around and eventually land in the Hoya fight. At least Vernon will have a good payday...
BTW thanks for the reps... :)
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Hmmmm settling for Soto, could turn out to be a real big mistake. Soto will test Pac with his power unlike the naturally lower weight / moved in weight JMM, EM and MAB. Soto bangs harder than any of those guys mentioned above. Sounds like the making of a Cotto vs Margarito clone match up to me .....
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Freddie Roach: "If Manny loses to Oscar De La Hoya, I don't want a dime, I don't want any money, I will have worked/trained for free."
That the confidence of a coach to his pupil...
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That's the sign of a coach who's sickness is getting the better of him. Roach should get medical attention as soon as possible
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Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!
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Why did PAC back out again? Oh yeah MONEY, NOTHING BUT MONEY!!
It's respect for asking a fair share of the purse and asking what is due to him. If you learn to share more to your fellow deserving boxer then it's a sign of mutual respect. But if you want to monopolize the purse (say taking 70%) then it's a clear sign of greed for money.
Good that PAC turned down the unfair 70-30 offer from Oscar. PAC showed that Oscar can't impose his will on everybody everytime. Better for Oscar to retire now.
It's a matter of who holds the cards and it's not Pac! ODLH will still make money off Pac with a fighter/fighters within his stable and Pac will just earn a lot less. ARUM is the bad element, ODLH has the luxury of being the fighter and co-promoter while Pac has the misfortune of being an Arum puppet.
Well PAC just tried his shot on Hoya, nothing wrong with that... When it seems he can't get Hoya then he's back to his normal fight plans...
What's wrong is when a guy will try to impose an unfair sharing to the other party... Good that the other party has enough will to repulse the evil actions...
Remember PAC already dumped Hoya twice, once as his promoter and again in this fight negotiation...
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Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!
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SaddoBoxer
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Addicted to_boxing
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SaddoBoxer
It's respect for asking a fair share of the purse and asking what is due to him. If you learn to share more to your fellow deserving boxer then it's a sign of mutual respect. But if you want to monopolize the purse (say taking 70%) then it's a clear sign of greed for money.
Good that PAC turned down the unfair 70-30 offer from Oscar. PAC showed that Oscar can't impose his will on everybody everytime. Better for Oscar to retire now.
It's a matter of who holds the cards and it's not Pac! ODLH will still make money off Pac with a fighter/fighters within his stable and Pac will just earn a lot less. ARUM is the bad element, ODLH has the luxury of being the fighter and co-promoter while Pac has the misfortune of being an Arum puppet.
Well PAC just tried his shot on Hoya, nothing wrong with that... When it seems he can't get Hoya then he's back to his normal fight plans...
What's wrong is when a guy will try to impose an unfair sharing to the other party... Good that the other party has enough will to repulse the evil actions...
Remember PAC already dumped Hoya twice, once as his promoter and again in this fight negotiation...
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It's more of a case of a certain party over estimating how much he's really worth. Bottom line is this. Pac don't want the 30%? Fine. Oscar will just move on. Rather he faces Mora, Margarito or whoever. Oscar will get paid. Believe me he loses no sleep cuz Pac turned the offer down. If anything he's probably laughing at this fool turning down his highest purse ever.
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Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!
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Addicted to_boxing
It's a matter of who holds the cards and it's not Pac! ODLH will still make money off Pac with a fighter/fighters within his stable and Pac will just earn a lot less. ARUM is the bad element, ODLH has the luxury of being the fighter and co-promoter while Pac has the misfortune of being an Arum puppet.
Well PAC just tried his shot on Hoya, nothing wrong with that... When it seems he can't get Hoya then he's back to his normal fight plans...
What's wrong is when a guy will try to impose an unfair sharing to the other party... Good that the other party has enough will to repulse the evil actions...
Remember PAC already dumped Hoya twice, once as his promoter and again in this fight negotiation...
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It's more of a case of a certain party over estimating how much he's really worth. Bottom line is this. Pac don't want the 30%? Fine. Oscar will just move on. Rather he faces Mora, Margarito or whoever. Oscar will get paid.
Believe me he loses no sleep cuz Pac turned the offer down. If anything he's probably laughing at this fool turning down his highest purse ever.
It seems you're not reading the posts here. This one was already posted here earlier...
link: Oscar De La Hoya: 'Pacquiao Still Possible, Margarito Not!'
Now who sounded like he's trying to salvage the fight? (also sounded like a coward gay :lolhaha: )
You know what, it's a big insult if small guys dumps you... not once but twice... 2 insults already...
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Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!
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De la Hoya still hopeful Pacquiao fight is on
A day after it was pronounced dead, the plan for a super-fight between Oscar de la Hoya and Manny Pacquiao showed signs of life after the Golden Boy himself said the Dec. 6 welterweight date was still possible, according to Internet reports Friday.
Quoting De la Hoya from his ESPNRadio1100 interview, B o x ingscene . com reported De la Hoya insisted that negotiations are still ongoing.
That, despite previous statements from the camp of the current world pound-for-pound king that it is taking no less than 40 percent of the HBO pay-per-view buys which many predict could reach $100 million.
The American boxing superstar, whose popularity is rivaled only by that of the Filipino champ, even offered nice words for Pacquiao: “There is no boring fight that Manny Pacquiao is in.”
“The fact that you have Manny Pacquiao going up to weight classes, which is not unheard of. I think it would have taken boxing once again to another level and these are the type of events that the sport needs.”
Already talk is rife that both camps are just waiting for the Beijing Olympics to end to announce that the mega-fight—De La Hoya’s fitting finale and Pacquiao’s biggest ever—will indeed take place.
Aside from the date and venue, they have agreed on the catch-weight at 147 lbs and the size of gloves to use at eight ounces.
Reports said that Top Rank’s Bob Arum’s position is if De La Hoya’s camp calls up to say they are offering a 65-35 share, he will take it.
Pacquiao's lawyer, Franklin Gacal, said they were not amenable to a reported 65-35 split of the purse.
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Re: DelaHoya-Pacquiao Split Negotiations and Purse Talk!
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link -> De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao: Announcement is Coming?
"I want a big fight,"; De La Hoya said. "I want to go out with a big bang. I want to make it an event. I want to make it a worldwide event because I want to show the boxing world and I want to show everybody around the world that boxing is alive and well. I want them to say, 'Look at this big event December 6.'"
The guy at the top of De La Hoya's list is Pacquiao. Last week, negotiations exploded when Pacquiao turned down De La Hoya offer of a 70-30 revenue split and told promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank to make a fight Humberto Soto for November - unless De La Hoya agrees to his counter-offer of a 60-40 split.
De La Hoya has a backup opponent of WBC junior middleweight champion Sergio Mora, but Mora has a tough fight ahead against Vernon Forrest on September 13. There is no guarantee that Mora wins or comes out of the fight without an injury, but the biggest issue has to do with the timing.
Even De La Hoya admits to Markazi that a big event for Dec. 6 would need at least two-months of heavy promotion and to wait until the middle of September, hoping that Mora wins, will not give him, HBO, or the promoters enough time to properly promote what is being billed as the final fight of his career. De La Hoya wants a deal before the month of September even hits.
"It would be very difficult"; De La Hoya said. "I want something done by next week."
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