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Stats don't tell the whole story though. Tevez will be a quality signing for us. He'll fit in brilliantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Adebayor - Bit of an arse at times but when he's in the mood he is quality. Has a very good goal record at Arsenal.
I don't know what you mean by 'all the talk' because nobody at City is talking. They're just getting on with business. The media might be talking, but that's what they always do.
I don't think Parker is creative enough. I read about them going for Aquillani at Roma.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
You serious Lyle?? Dempsey is totally different player to Alsonso, i think Benitez knows Alonso is going Barry was the replacement he wanted, I dont know what people think but how about Scott Parker who had a great season with West Ham.
Even known im not a Man City supporter,i've put on more money on them to win the title based on them buying all the hot players.Their are at 20/1 but WHEN Terry signed as well as Lescot then them odds will drop alot.Santa Cruz will bang in loads this season,he's one of the best players to score while in the air.Infact i might put money on him scoring the most goals throughout the season.
Show me the money!!!;D
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Originally Posted by onoI don't think Parker is creative enough. I read about them going for Aquillani at Roma.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
You serious Lyle?? Dempsey is totally different player to Alsonso, i think Benitez knows Alonso is going Barry was the replacement he wanted, I dont know what people think but how about Scott Parker who had a great season with West Ham.
scotty plays infront of the back 4 in that covering role which he has been amazing at all season.
When we 1st signed scott i genuinely thought we`d bought a bowyer esque mercenary making his reputation off of 1 good season. But had it not been for him green and matty upson we`d be in all sorts of trouble right now.
If you want a essien type defensive midfielder who`ll grab you the odd goal or 2 and likes to get forward whenever possible then parker wont be to your liking. But parker is indeed the best in the league at playing that grinding role in the centre of the park that makes his presence felt with heavy tackling and can ping a football around like no other
I hate Lee Bowyer.
Even Lee Bowyer's mum hates Lee Bowyer ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Benayoun wouldn't be horrible to fill in for Alonso, as long as we have another guy to sub in for him.
See THIS is why you keep Sissoko!!!
Can you really replace what Alonso does? Doesn't seem like there are too many guys with similar games.
Meh, they could get Xavi to replace him. Not likely. ;D
True but it would be nice if they got someone who mirrored what Riera did last seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
1 Liverpool
2 Manchester United
3 Manchester City
4 Chelsea
5 Arsenal
6 Aston Villa
7 Tottenham Hotspur
8 Everton
9 Blackburn
10 Sunderland
11 Portsmouth
12 West Ham
13 Wigan
14 Fulham
15 Bolton
16 Birmingham
17 Burnley
18 Stoke
19 Hull
20 Wolves
I think Terry goes to Man City, who also buy a couple more players, that may give them an edge.
Chelsea in return, win the Champions League.
Arsenal are still a few years away from maturing
Redknapp will sort out Spurs
Everton are due a blip
If Portsmouth sort out their ownership and spend a bit, they could be fighting for a Uefa place
Fulham are going to struggle to do as well as last season
From Bolton downwards anyone could go down, the Premier League does seem to lack the depth in the mid table teams it had last season.
Have to disagree with a few of your choices there mate, I actully think Pompey are great odds to possibly go down 6/1 nice price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
I think Wolves are most likely of the new clubs to do the best on the face I think they have goals in there team they have three decent strikers, where as Burnley and Hull I dont see them having a striker who will score them the goals to get them out of trouble, this is my final table.
1. Chelsea
2. United
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Everton
6. Man City
7. Spurs
8. Aston Villa
9. West Ham
10. Fulham
11. Sunderland
12. Bolton
13. Blackburn
14. Wigan
15. Stoke
16. Pompey
17. Wolves
18. Birmingham
19. Hull
20. Burnley
Fair dues, my list is a bit random and hunched orientated, your list is quite sensibly playing the percentages.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Have to disagree with a few of your choices there mate, I actully think Pompey are great odds to possibly go down 6/1 nice price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Britkid
I think Wolves are most likely of the new clubs to do the best on the face I think they have goals in there team they have three decent strikers, where as Burnley and Hull I dont see them having a striker who will score them the goals to get them out of trouble, this is my final table.
1. Chelsea
2. United
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Everton
6. Man City
7. Spurs
8. Aston Villa
9. West Ham
10. Fulham
11. Sunderland
12. Bolton
13. Blackburn
14. Wigan
15. Stoke
16. Pompey
17. Wolves
18. Birmingham
19. Hull
20. Burnley
We've made a £15m bid for Lescott.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I'll be so pissed off if we sell Lescott! It will show exactly what ambition we have!Quote:
Originally Posted by onoWe've made a £15m bid for Lescott.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Apparently Barca are going to give E'to and 35 million to Inter for Ibrahimovic :o
I know Ibrahimovic is good and younger but doesn't that seem a bit steep.
Edit-he's only a year younger. F that, that's fucking nuts.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I wouldnt pay the 35m alone for ibrahimovic let alone the 20m extra they`ll be giving with eto`o.
Barca should of just put a cheeky 18million bid for van nistelrooy
Lol he's only cost about £3m now. He's 33 i think. The price quoted in the press has been around £3m.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I wouldnt pay the 35m alone for ibrahimovic let alone the 20m extra they`ll be giving with eto`o.
Barca should of just put a cheeky 18million bid for van nistelrooy
Anyway Everton have rejected the bid for Lescott. Word on the street is we're going back in to offer £15m plus Onuoha. Seriously hope not. Don't want to lose Nedum.
Adebayor might be announced later today...round about 5pm.
i was under the impression the adebayor deal had hit a snagQuote:
Originally Posted by onoLol he's only cost about £3m now. He's 33 i think. The price quoted in the press has been around £3m.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I wouldnt pay the 35m alone for ibrahimovic let alone the 20m extra they`ll be giving with eto`o.
Barca should of just put a cheeky 18million bid for van nistelrooy
Anyway Everton have rejected the bid for Lescott. Word on the street is we're going back in to offer £15m plus Onuoha. Seriously hope not. Don't want to lose Nedum.
Adebayor might be announced later today...round about 5pm.
Hope to god you sign lescott as im worried you`ll go in for upson if unsuccesful. We could sure do with a chunk of citys millions but really cant afford to lose upson.
PS:We are still pissing ourselves with laughter over the 14million you gave us for that carthorse bellamy
Throw who you want in and any amount of cash. But Lescott is staying put.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoLol he's only cost about £3m now. He's 33 i think. The price quoted in the press has been around £3m.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I wouldnt pay the 35m alone for ibrahimovic let alone the 20m extra they`ll be giving with eto`o.
Barca should of just put a cheeky 18million bid for van nistelrooy
Anyway Everton have rejected the bid for Lescott. Word on the street is we're going back in to offer £15m plus Onuoha. Seriously hope not. Don't want to lose Nedum.
Adebayor might be announced later today...round about 5pm.
Money talks mate and unfortunatly your not really in a posistion to dismiss big cash say City come in with around 20 mil bid and Lescott says he wantd to leave, not alot you can do. I hope he stays as I like Everton and the way they go about everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeThrow who you want in and any amount of cash. But Lescott is staying put.Quote:
Originally Posted by onoLol he's only cost about £3m now. He's 33 i think. The price quoted in the press has been around £3m.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Anyway Everton have rejected the bid for Lescott. Word on the street is we're going back in to offer £15m plus Onuoha. Seriously hope not. Don't want to lose Nedum.
Adebayor might be announced later today...round about 5pm.
Nah it didn't hit any snag. The hold up was just for Adebayor to have a little think about it because he was sold 'in principle' without knowing anything about it with him being away.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammeri was under the impression the adebayor deal had hit a snagQuote:
Originally Posted by onoLol he's only cost about £3m now. He's 33 i think. The price quoted in the press has been around £3m.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Anyway Everton have rejected the bid for Lescott. Word on the street is we're going back in to offer £15m plus Onuoha. Seriously hope not. Don't want to lose Nedum.
Adebayor might be announced later today...round about 5pm.
Hope to god you sign lescott as im worried you`ll go in for upson if unsuccesful. We could sure do with a chunk of citys millions but really cant afford to lose upson.
PS:We are still pissing ourselves with laughter over the 14million you gave us for that carthorse bellamy
He didn't ask for any more money and there was no other club involved as per reported in the media. Was purely the fact that he wanted a little bit of time to get his head around the idea of leaving Arsenal.
Anyway he signed last night not long after i posted.
We never paid £14m for Bellamy. It was closer to £10m with add ons that will probably never be reached. Still a bit too much imo.
Lescott will be next i think. I'm expecting him to hand in a request.
Everton aren't selling anybody this transfer window Moyes has said it numerous times. He's looking to build a squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Money talks mate and unfortunatly your not really in a posistion to dismiss big cash say City come in with around 20 mil bid and Lescott says he wantd to leave, not alot you can do. I hope he stays as I like Everton and the way they go about everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeThrow who you want in and any amount of cash. But Lescott is staying put.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
If Lescott leaves it will be because he is a money grabbing twat and we don't want anybody at Everton like that so he can go then for all I care.
Unless that happens he's going nowhere, no matter what the bid.
Fergie in January also said he wouldnt sell Madrid a virus lol. Its a business now mate no matter what is said money talks, If Lescott wants to leave no doubt he will go lets hope he doesnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeEverton aren't selling anybody this transfer window Moyes has said it numerous times. He's looking to build a squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Money talks mate and unfortunatly your not really in a posistion to dismiss big cash say City come in with around 20 mil bid and Lescott says he wantd to leave, not alot you can do. I hope he stays as I like Everton and the way they go about everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
If Lescott leaves it will be because he is a money grabbing twat and we don't want anybody at Everton like that so he can go then for all I care.
Unless that happens he's going nowhere, no matter what the bid.
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Originally Posted by skel1983Fergie in January also said he wouldnt sell Madrid a virus lol. Its a business now mate no matter what is said money talks, If Lescott wants to leave no doubt he will go lets hope he doesnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeEverton aren't selling anybody this transfer window Moyes has said it numerous times. He's looking to build a squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
If Lescott leaves it will be because he is a money grabbing twat and we don't want anybody at Everton like that so he can go then for all I care.
Unless that happens he's going nowhere, no matter what the bid.
I have a soft spot for Man City but what they are doing is a bit obscene. They are paying extortionate amount for only half decent players, Real Madrid are doing the same.
At least Madrid are paying extortionate amounts fro the best players!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I don't think the prices are so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Bellamy £10m + £4m based on appearances (won't happen) - Not great
Given £8m - Bargain
Bridge £12m - Not great but is Glen Johnson worth £17m? English players cost more
Tevez - £26.5m - Who knows, but that was always the fixed price regardless of who came in for him.
Barry - £12m - Compare that with the £12m Villa have spent on Downing
De Jong - £16m - Unfair to comment just yet. Good at his job as a defensive midfielder. Price is a bit steep but a good player nonetheless.
Santa Cruz - £12 + £5.5m add ons - Maybe a bit steep but a good player and he gives us a different threat upfront.
Adebayor - £22m - Fair price imo. Only Torres and Ronaldo scored more goals than him in last 2 seasons. Scored more than Drogba and Anelka combined over last 2 seasons.
So yeah we've paid a little over on some players but that's not purely our fault. Other teams know we have money and as such they raise their asking price by a few million. Every club has done it with us and we can't honestly walk away from every deal, otherwise we'd have the same squad that finished 10th.
Also it's not just City spending money on 'average players'
For example Chelsea spent £18m on John Obi Mikel, Villa spent £12m on Milner and Downing. Man Utd have spent £16m on Valencia.
Another thing, the media keep adding a few millions onto deals and a few thousand on proposed wage offers, because it makes more of a story.
For example, Adebayor is nowhere near the 170k p/w he's reported to be on. Barry isn't anywhere near the £130k p/w neither. Robinho is the top earner still and he takes home 92k p/w after tax.
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Originally Posted by onoI don't think the prices are so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Bellamy £10m + £4m based on appearances (won't happen) - Not great
Given £8m - Bargain
Bridge £12m - Not great but is Glen Johnson worth £17m? English players cost more
Tevez - £26.5m - Who knows, but that was always the fixed price regardless of who came in for him.
Barry - £12m - Compare that with the £12m Villa have spent on Downing
De Jong - £16m - Unfair to comment just yet. Good at his job as a defensive midfielder. Price is a bit steep but a good player nonetheless.
Santa Cruz - £12 + £5.5m add ons - Maybe a bit steep but a good player and he gives us a different threat upfront.
Adebayor - £22m - Fair price imo. Only Torres and Ronaldo scored more goals than him in last 2 seasons. Scored more than Drogba and Anelka combined over last 2 seasons.
So yeah we've paid a little over on some players but that's not purely our fault. Other teams know we have money and as such they raise their asking price by a few million. Every club has done it with us and we can't honestly walk away from every deal, otherwise we'd have the same squad that finished 10th.
Also it's not just City spending money on 'average players'
For example Chelsea spent £18m on John Obi Mikel, Villa spent £12m on Milner and Downing. Man Utd have spent £16m on Valencia.
Another thing, the media keep adding a few millions onto deals and a few thousand on proposed wage offers, because it makes more of a story.
For example, Adebayor is nowhere near the 170k p/w he's reported to be on. Barry isn't anywhere near the £130k p/w neither. Robinho is the top earner still and he takes home 92k p/w after tax.
they are indeed fair prices but you arent buying players that can win you premierships.
Chelsea brought in the likes of essien,drogba,carvalho,cech,ferreira - all relative unknowns in the uk but all of which were championship winners with their respective clubs abroad.
I dont see a single one there that has experience of winning titles
Carlos Tevez and Wayne Bridge have both won the Premier League title. Santa Cruz has two Bundesliga medals, 2 German Cup medals and Champions League medalQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by onoI don't think the prices are so bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Bellamy £10m + £4m based on appearances (won't happen) - Not great
Given £8m - Bargain
Bridge £12m - Not great but is Glen Johnson worth £17m? English players cost more
Tevez - £26.5m - Who knows, but that was always the fixed price regardless of who came in for him.
Barry - £12m - Compare that with the £12m Villa have spent on Downing
De Jong - £16m - Unfair to comment just yet. Good at his job as a defensive midfielder. Price is a bit steep but a good player nonetheless.
Santa Cruz - £12 + £5.5m add ons - Maybe a bit steep but a good player and he gives us a different threat upfront.
Adebayor - £22m - Fair price imo. Only Torres and Ronaldo scored more goals than him in last 2 seasons. Scored more than Drogba and Anelka combined over last 2 seasons.
So yeah we've paid a little over on some players but that's not purely our fault. Other teams know we have money and as such they raise their asking price by a few million. Every club has done it with us and we can't honestly walk away from every deal, otherwise we'd have the same squad that finished 10th.
Also it's not just City spending money on 'average players'
For example Chelsea spent £18m on John Obi Mikel, Villa spent £12m on Milner and Downing. Man Utd have spent £16m on Valencia.
Another thing, the media keep adding a few millions onto deals and a few thousand on proposed wage offers, because it makes more of a story.
For example, Adebayor is nowhere near the 170k p/w he's reported to be on. Barry isn't anywhere near the £130k p/w neither. Robinho is the top earner still and he takes home 92k p/w after tax.
they are indeed fair prices but you arent buying players that can win you premierships.
Chelsea brought in the likes of essien,drogba,carvalho,cech,ferreira - all relative unknowns in the uk but all of which were championship winners with their respective clubs abroad.
I dont see a single one there that has experience of winning titles
Adebayor has the experience of competing for a title and playing in a Champions League final, as has Tevez (x2)
Buying players who have championship medals in other countries isn't a sure-fire way to win the Premier League. It's a different league altogether.
Chamakh, the striker for Bordeaux has a Ligue 1 medal but it doesn't mean he's the better option than Adebayor.
The important thing is you buy players with a winning mentality who do all they can do win. I think we've done that so far with hopefully a few more players to come.
It's not been a year since we were taken over and given that we finished 10th last season, the signings we have made have been very good - especially this summer.
As well as the good signings Chelsea have made they've also made some pretty terrible signings over the last few years.
Tiago, Shevchenko, Ivanovic, Mutu, Veron etc...
aswell as some expensive average signings...
Crespo, Mikel, Ferreira, Malouda etc..
City will sign Kolo Toure in the next few days. Agreed terms and had offer accepted by Le Arse so should be announced. Helps get over the disappointment of Terry i suppose. Toure was looking very good again toward the back end of the season.
Probably be announced tomorrow or Tuesday anyway. That's my informed prediction.
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Originally Posted by ono
f*ck me i do wish you lot would turn it in. Dont blame city the football club which is steeped in tradition more the mega billion owners that are slowly corrupting the national game we all love.
It`ll be 1 years before the 1st 100million transfer
It`ll be 2 years before the 1st 500,000 a week footballer
It`ll be 5 years before a side spends 250million in a single window
Somewhere somehow the powers above need to stop milking this ridiculous inflation set by rich clubs and set caps or the sad reality is every football club that isnt in the top 12-15 places will die out within 10 years!!
You can tell at the bookmakers that loads of people fancy Man City to win it.Man City were 25/1 to win out right,then their dropped to 20/1,now its dropped to 10/1:o.Well i backed them early,i knew i got a steal at 25/1.I did warn you's:rolleyes:
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yup you indeed got a steal at 25s
how much you got on it??
No offence mate but im starting to think this inside informartion your getting is actully the sun or maybe the news of the world?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by yvonne
yup you indeed got a steal at 25s
how much you got on it??
Just a fiver(£5)but im planning on putting more on,even 10/1 is still a very good price!
Lol. No. Just no.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983No offence mate but im starting to think this inside informartion your getting is actully the sun or maybe the news of the world?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Kolo Toure signed.
£14m
Lescott next.
This is turning into the who will Man City buy next prediction thread.
Loved the poster of Tevez saying "welcome to Manchester" :)
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Originally Posted by onoLol. No. Just no.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983No offence mate but im starting to think this inside informartion your getting is actully the sun or maybe the news of the world?Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Any chance of your lot letting the odd fringe player go out on loan?
benjani could do a job for us i suspect and we desperately need someone to partner cole up top
Lol trust me you don't want Benjani. He is awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by onoLol. No. Just no.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Any chance of your lot letting the odd fringe player go out on loan?
benjani could do a job for us i suspect and we desperately need someone to partner cole up top
We've let Jo, Bojinov and Caicedo go on loan and we've released Vassell and sold Evans. Hopefully Benjani will be next.
Bit of good news for LeftyLee though.
We're very likely to walk away from the Lescott deal. It was a near certainty to go through once Everton had found a suitable replacement. This hasn't happened. Basically Everton are playing hardball over the fee - which was actually agreed (don't know what it was)and City are ready to call their bluff and walk away. This will probably break in the next few days (in the media), unless Everton do a massive u-turn or Joleon puts in a transfer request. Cue Lefty saying ' i knew we'd never sell him' ;D