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3-1 Chavez. Duddy is going to get stopped if this continues.
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Chavez smacked him around that round. Both guys easy as hell to hit but going at it.
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Duddy getting cracked and often. Getting into a bit of a hole here.
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OumaFan
Chavez smacked him around that round. Both guys easy as hell to hit but going at it.
Yeah, we're not exactly watching Pernell Whitaker vs. Willie Pep here.
I think Roach might be able to improve Chavez Jr.'s defense though.
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Chavez at least keeping his hands up better now
OOhh and he gets hurt right as I type that LOL
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Great shot by Duddy there. Could turn this around.
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4-2 Chavez Jr.
Does that deserve consideration for round of the year or have I completely lost my fucking mind?
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I loved that picture of Duddy where its like what the opponent sees when they're trying to hit him and he's got this gigantic photoshopped head. He's so easy to hit, always has been. Gatti was a defensive wizard compared to him. He really seems to want this though.
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Lets see what happens late.
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Duddy doesn't go enough to the body at all. Chavez is covering upstairs, so he should be going low. Duddy hitting gloves far too much. Just not effective.
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Fucking Freddie Roach, what an asshole...
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I would score that a 10-8 round for Chavez. Regardless, 8-2.
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Kind of wondering about chavez' power at this point. He looks like he gets pretty good leverage and he's bigger and stronger than Duddy but he's hit him without about a billion flush shots now and Duddy's never been out on his feet.
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How did he not stop him there?
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Come on Duddy suck it up, Chavez is kicking your ass.
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Duddy has no defence, the right hand never misses. He has a lot of heart, but getting beaten up.
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hahah for those who didnt hear, sad day for mma FEDOR LOST....lol
good fight
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9-2.
Duddy's corner needs to start thinking about stopping it.
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What's happened to Chavez Jr, that Ariza must be some kind of a conditioning coach. :p
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Chavez stamina looks great, fucking Duddy. Gotta give Chavez credit he does look better.
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All joking aside, you have to wonder whether this is going the distance. :-\
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Around round 6 I was praying Chavez would wilt...nope...oh well.
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I had no real expectations for this fight, but it turned out to be quite fun and Chavez fought well. Hopefully we are going to get less bums and see him in real fights.
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Shocked Duddys face isnt cut!
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Great fight between two limited fighters! A bit of Gatti vs. Ward about it in a small way.
Both guys showed heart, spirit and guts that far exceed their skills. True warriors!
My only thought left is... How much did Wayne McCullough sell his chin to John Duddy for? ;D The lad is made of metal, haven't seen anyone take so many hard and flush shots for a while. I was sure Duddy was going to go from round 9 onwards, couldn't believe he made it to the end.
Credit to both fighters, and classy post-fight interviews too. :cool:
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WTF??? Did I just see chavez jr. In a possible FOTY....??? Just for that Roach and Ariza get trainer and conditioner of the century......Im still in shock that I saw chavez jr in an entertaining fight.....
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if chavez jr. keeps improving like this, he's going to be a world champion someday! all he ever needed was a good trainer and thankfully he's got one in roach. the fact that chavez jr. is only 24 years old, he has alot of time to improve. roach is smarter than everyone gives him credit for. he knows pacquiao is retiring soon and chavez jr. has a chance to be the new face of boxing after mayweather jr. and pacquiao. if roach can help chavez jr. bring out his potential, roach is sitting on an absolute gold mine. he and saul alvarez are potentially the next big things in boxing!
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milmascaras1
if chavez jr. keeps improving like this, he's going to be a world champion someday! all he ever needed was a good trainer and thankfully he's got one in roach. the fact that chavez jr. is only 24 years old, he has alot of time to improve. roach is smarter than everyone gives him credit for. he knows pacquiao is retiring soon and chavez jr. has a chance to be the new face of boxing after mayweather jr. and pacquiao. if roach can help chavez jr. bring out his potential, roach is sitting on an absolute gold mine. he and saul alvarez are potentially the next big things in boxing!
I know he's only 19, and I've only had limited exposure to him, but Alvarez hasn't impressed me much so far. He's still got a ton of room to grow though, but he needs to shore up his defense in a big way.
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ElTerribleMorales
both suck, just Duddy sucks a bit more, IMO Jr beats him by UD
Better change your avatar to white red and green man. Anyways, nice choice. Predictable though.
I knew you're going to support your country man anyways. :cool:
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
if chavez jr. keeps improving like this, he's going to be a world champion someday! all he ever needed was a good trainer and thankfully he's got one in roach. the fact that chavez jr. is only 24 years old, he has alot of time to improve. roach is smarter than everyone gives him credit for. he knows pacquiao is retiring soon and chavez jr. has a chance to be the new face of boxing after mayweather jr. and pacquiao. if roach can help chavez jr. bring out his potential, roach is sitting on an absolute gold mine. he and saul alvarez are potentially the next big things in boxing!
CHAVEZ JR IS A BUM. Keep hoping though. LOL....
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here is my full fight report including round by round scoring.
Its pretty long but I hope you enjoy it.
John Duddy defeated by Julio Cesar Chavez at the Alamo
(its contains photos to break the text up a bit for the dumbies! ;) )
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mad,
pacquiao's time is almost up, then what are you pacquiao fans gonna do? i mean, who do you have on the horizon? donaire? won't fight anybody his size! who? chavez jr. and canelo alvarez are two rising stars along with a bunch of other fighters. you just can't fathom the fact that philippine boxing is dead after pacquiao and mexican boxing will keep going and going and going.....:o
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sligobhoy67
Nice write up, I wasnt bummed out at all that Duddy lost. He gave it a go, maybe if he trained with Roach and Chavez Jr. didnt, it may have been the other way around.
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mad_takamura
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
both suck, just Duddy sucks a bit more, IMO Jr beats him by UD
Better change your avatar to white red and green man. Anyways, nice choice. Predictable though.
I knew you're going to support your country man anyways. :cool:
yea cause i'm gonna pick the Puerto Rican in a fight between a Mexican and an Irishman :-X, the thread is Duddy vs JCC Jr, and gee golly willakers Chavez Jr won :rolleyes:
unlike you i'm not a fan boy blinded by my flag
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ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
mad_takamura
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
both suck, just Duddy sucks a bit more, IMO Jr beats him by UD
Better change your avatar to white red and green man. Anyways, nice choice. Predictable though.
I knew you're going to support your country man anyways. :cool:
yea cause i'm gonna pick the Puerto Rican in a fight between a Mexican and an Irishman :-X, the thread is Duddy vs JCC Jr, and gee golly willakers Chavez Jr won :rolleyes:
unlike you i'm not a fan boy blinded by my flag
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
mad,
pacquiao's time is almost up, then what are you pacquiao fans gonna do? i mean, who do you have on the horizon? donaire? won't fight anybody his size! who? chavez jr. and canelo alvarez are two rising stars along with a bunch of other fighters. you just can't fathom the fact that philippine boxing is dead after pacquiao and mexican boxing will keep going and going and going.....:o
You worry way too much about nationalities man, who gives a f***??? Real boxing aficianados judge boxers by their abilities, not by their ethnic backrounds.....
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osncoll_0716
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
mad_takamura
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
both suck, just Duddy sucks a bit more, IMO Jr beats him by UD
Better change your avatar to white red and green man. Anyways, nice choice. Predictable though.
I knew you're going to support your country man anyways. :cool:
yea cause i'm gonna pick the Puerto Rican in a fight between a Mexican and an Irishman :-X, the thread is Duddy vs JCC Jr, and gee golly willakers Chavez Jr won :rolleyes:
unlike you i'm not a fan boy blinded by my flag
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Originally Posted by
milmascaras1
mad,
pacquiao's time is almost up, then what are you pacquiao fans gonna do? i mean, who do you have on the horizon? donaire? won't fight anybody his size! who? chavez jr. and canelo alvarez are two rising stars along with a bunch of other fighters. you just can't fathom the fact that philippine boxing is dead after pacquiao and mexican boxing will keep going and going and going.....:o
You worry way too much about nationalities man, who gives a f***??? Real boxing aficianados judge boxers by their abilities, not by their ethnic backrounds.....
re-read my post, i'm saying the exact same thing you are, i mean there's one thing to be proud of what fighters from country accomplish, but when you go for a fight only cause of what flag he holds it's a bit naive and ridiculous