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Jacobs just tried to make friends with Pirog...and just got :o KTFOUT !! Wow....this is why I love boxing
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I'm really liking Pirog so far. He's got Jacobs in full retreat, though Jacobs is boxing quite well off the back foot.
Holy Shit! Brutal KO!
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You have to feel for Jacobs though, his mind couldn't have been all in the right tonight considering the woman who raised him died a few days ago.
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Was Jacobs another goldenboy fighter? Well there goes another prospect.
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Was Jacobs another goldenboy fighter? Well there goes another prospect.
He was indeed.
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The judges should be fired.Golden boy......what do you expect.Exposure 101 tonight and we discover a pretty fine fighter as well.
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That was awesome in normal speed!
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Spicoli
The judges should be fired.Golden boy......what do you expect.Exposure 101 tonight and we discover a pretty fine fighter as well.
Did HBO give out the scores? What were they? Given that he is a GBP fighter I would imagine Jacobs had won every round on at least two cards.
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Wow! Pirog looked class. Even before the Ko he was putting Jacobs on the backfoot and should have scored that KD in the 2nd. 17 straight wins 14 by KO. The guy is for real.
Jacobs will probably have an excuse for losing. He looked good in parts but he is the Amercian Amir Khan. Great against bums but faced with a similar aged/sized boxer he was out his depth. Good appetiser for the main event.
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Wow! Pirog looked class. Even before the Ko he was putting Jacobs on the backfoot and should have scored that KD in the 2nd. 17 straight wins 14 by KO. The guy is for real.
Jacobs will probably have an excuse for losing. He looked good in parts but he is the Amercian Amir Khan. Great against bums but faced with a similar aged/sized boxer he was out his depth. Good appetiser for the main event.
I'm not fan of Jacobs, but IMO he has a pretty valid excuse given that the person who raised him died a few days ago.
And I don't think the Khan comparison in apt. Khan had looked very shaky before getting stopped by Prescott, Jacobs has looked good against almost everyone prior to this though I think Ishe Smith gave him a tough fight. I'm no fan of his, but he can bounce back from this. Like Khan, this loss could make him a better fighter in the end (as they just said on SKy).
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Pirog looked good, you could tell right off that he was pretty athletic and skilled.
I thought Jacobs was a bit of a hype job coming in but I'm sure that would be rough for him with the death, I didn't hear about that cause I'm watching a spanish language stream.
War Diaz. He probably loses but war anyway.
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GAME
Wow! Pirog looked class. Even before the Ko he was putting Jacobs on the backfoot and should have scored that KD in the 2nd. 17 straight wins 14 by KO. The guy is for real.
Jacobs will probably have an excuse for losing. He looked good in parts but he is the Amercian Amir Khan. Great against bums but faced with a similar aged/sized boxer he was out his depth. Good appetiser for the main event.
I'm not fan of Jacobs, but IMO he has a pretty valid excuse given that the person who raised him died a few days ago.
And I don't think the Khan comparison in apt. Khan had looked very shaky before getting stopped by Prescott, Jacobs has looked good against almost everyone prior to this though I think Ishe Smith gave him a tough fight. I'm no fan of his, but he can bounce back from this.
Douglas' mother died before he beat Tyson and it made him raise his game to the next level. Some use it as an excuse for losing and some use it as a motivation for winning.
I was comparing it to Khan just as Johhny Nelson just did because it was a shock but thats what happens when you believe your hype. I think Jacobs has the fundamentals to comeback but I do like the look of Pirog. He is no Prescott.
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CFH
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
The judges should be fired.Golden boy......what do you expect.Exposure 101 tonight and we discover a pretty fine fighter as well.
Did HBO give out the scores? What were they? Given that he is a GBP fighter I would imagine Jacobs had won every round on at least two cards.
All three had him up 2-1 I believe.He was effectivly totally outclassed...loved how the house fighter gets air time to do damage control but unknown Pirog gets nattas....nothing...not even a gift basket.
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CFH
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GAME
Wow! Pirog looked class. Even before the Ko he was putting Jacobs on the backfoot and should have scored that KD in the 2nd. 17 straight wins 14 by KO. The guy is for real.
Jacobs will probably have an excuse for losing. He looked good in parts but he is the Amercian Amir Khan. Great against bums but faced with a similar aged/sized boxer he was out his depth. Good appetiser for the main event.
I'm not fan of Jacobs, but IMO he has a pretty valid excuse given that the person who raised him died a few days ago.
And I don't think the Khan comparison in apt. Khan had looked very shaky before getting stopped by Prescott, Jacobs has looked good against almost everyone prior to this though I think Ishe Smith gave him a tough fight. I'm no fan of his, but he can bounce back from this. Like Khan, this loss could make him a better fighter in the end (as they just said on SKy).
Agreed. I just think Goldenboy and prospects don't work too well. He should have been fighting lower level opponents for a few fights more before fighting this type of opponent.
I sure wonder how it's going to turn out for Saul Alvarez in the future.
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GAME
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CFH
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Originally Posted by
GAME
Wow! Pirog looked class. Even before the Ko he was putting Jacobs on the backfoot and should have scored that KD in the 2nd. 17 straight wins 14 by KO. The guy is for real.
Jacobs will probably have an excuse for losing. He looked good in parts but he is the Amercian Amir Khan. Great against bums but faced with a similar aged/sized boxer he was out his depth. Good appetiser for the main event.
I'm not fan of Jacobs, but IMO he has a pretty valid excuse given that the person who raised him died a few days ago.
And I don't think the Khan comparison in apt. Khan had looked very shaky before getting stopped by Prescott, Jacobs has looked good against almost everyone prior to this though I think Ishe Smith gave him a tough fight. I'm no fan of his, but he can bounce back from this.
Douglas' mother died before he beat Tyson and it made him raise his game to the next level. Some use it as an excuse for losing and some use it as a motivation for winning.
I was comparing it to Khan just as Johhny Nelson just did because it was a shock but thats what happens when you believe your hype. I think Jacobs has the fundamentals to comeback but I do like the look of Pirog. He is no Prescott.
Everyone responds to death and loss differently. It's unfair to judge one fighter by what another did in the same situation.
Pirog is definitely more skilled than Prescott, I agree there. He looks to have a good future.
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generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
GAME
Wow! Pirog looked class. Even before the Ko he was putting Jacobs on the backfoot and should have scored that KD in the 2nd. 17 straight wins 14 by KO. The guy is for real.
Jacobs will probably have an excuse for losing. He looked good in parts but he is the Amercian Amir Khan. Great against bums but faced with a similar aged/sized boxer he was out his depth. Good appetiser for the main event.
I'm not fan of Jacobs, but IMO he has a pretty valid excuse given that the person who raised him died a few days ago.
And I don't think the Khan comparison in apt. Khan had looked very shaky before getting stopped by Prescott, Jacobs has looked good against almost everyone prior to this though I think Ishe Smith gave him a tough fight. I'm no fan of his, but he can bounce back from this. Like Khan, this loss could make him a better fighter in the end (as they just said on SKy).
Agreed. I just think Goldenboy and prospects don't work too well. He should have been fighting lower level opponents for a few fights more before fighting this type of opponent.
I sure wonder how it's going to turn out for Saul Alvarez in the future.
I am not impressed with Alvarez at all to be honest. The only thing impressive about him is his age, he gets hit way too much and he doesn't have devestating power.
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CFH
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GAME
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
GAME
Wow! Pirog looked class. Even before the Ko he was putting Jacobs on the backfoot and should have scored that KD in the 2nd. 17 straight wins 14 by KO. The guy is for real.
Jacobs will probably have an excuse for losing. He looked good in parts but he is the Amercian Amir Khan. Great against bums but faced with a similar aged/sized boxer he was out his depth. Good appetiser for the main event.
I'm not fan of Jacobs, but IMO he has a pretty valid excuse given that the person who raised him died a few days ago.
And I don't think the Khan comparison in apt. Khan had looked very shaky before getting stopped by Prescott, Jacobs has looked good against almost everyone prior to this though I think Ishe Smith gave him a tough fight. I'm no fan of his, but he can bounce back from this.
Douglas' mother died before he beat Tyson and it made him raise his game to the next level. Some use it as an excuse for losing and some use it as a motivation for winning.
I was comparing it to Khan just as Johhny Nelson just did because it was a shock but thats what happens when you believe your hype. I think Jacobs has the fundamentals to comeback but I do like the look of Pirog. He is no Prescott.
Everyone responds to death and loss differently. It's unfair to judge one fighter by what another did in the same situation.
Pirog is definitely more skilled than Prescott, I agree there. He looks to have a good future.
Yeah I agree its unfair to judge him on what another fighter did in the same situation and its also unfair to give him that excuse for losing. If he thought he couldnt perform he should have pulled out and maybe he will learn from that but I think it goes back to the over confidence and thinking he could walk through Pirog.
Time for the big 1. Im going for Marquez by KO.
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Are we looking at another star in the making in Pirog?
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This won't even be competitive. Marquez by early to mid rounds TKO.
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It wasnt Jacobs mourning that cost him there...he was out skilled and revealed.Notice how you never hear some of it spoken about prior to the fight.I swear they need to have some guys sign "no excuse" wavers going into fights these days.Just saying...
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Spicoli
It wasnt Jacobs mourning that cost him there...he was out skilled and revealed.Notice how you never hear some of it spoken about prior to the fight.I swear they need to have some guys sign "no excuse" wavers going into fights these days.Just saying...
They were talking about Jacobs situation prior to the fight on Sky Sports. The woman died a few days ago, it's not like there was a lot of time to talk about it and I doubt anyone would want to talk about that prior to the fight given how distracting it would be.
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This is totally random, but the other day I realized I had become a bit of a Kermit Cintron fan and it seriously disturbed me.
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CFH
This is totally random, but the other day I realized I had become a bit of a Kermit Cintron fan and it seriously disturbed me.
were you by any chance crying yourself to sleep when u had this revelation?
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Oh this might be brutal ... Diaz trying to box JMM....oooops :-X
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Diaz looks a bit better than I thought he would early on, but Marquez is landing the harder, more effective punches and I don't expect that Diaz will be able to stand up to them for long.
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Lamply is calling shots that miss...again.Marquez has him at range and is zeroing in he comes in.Easily
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Have to ask....Will Diaz ever get rid of those handle bars ???
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I'm impressed with Diaz so far. He looks like he's not nearly as shot as I thought he was and he's made some good adjustments. I don't think he's winning, but he's more competitive than I thought he would be.
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Huge Marquez round. He staggered Diaz twice.
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He is so caught in between styles its fugly.Leg looks like it gives too.I like Diaz but man....he has no where to go.Needs to attack,on the outside he is on a leash.
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Well I guess it's time for Diaz to start studying for the LSATs after this fight, he's going to need a career change.
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Has there even been a clinch yet?
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JMM is Picaso...Diaz is color by numbers.Poor kid
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Think he can score the tko when he chooses...but points to Diaz for brass balls.Always has had them
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Marquez has really slowed here in the last couple of rounds.
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Diaz needs to keep pressing here. This fight got interesting late, but IMO it was too far gone at that point. Still, I'm impressed with Diaz' heart and he's not nearly as shot as I thought he was.
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I was definitely wrong about Diaz. He came on late and redeemed himself after the Malignaggi fights and has probably, and justifiably, earned himself another decent payday.
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Disappointing fight. Diaz fought in survival mode for most of the contest and only found some courage when he saw the fiishing tape. He had alot left in the tank at the end of 12 rounds which suggests he didnt put it all on the line and settled for a points loss instead of risking it.
Marquez looks on his last legs. Diaz didnt have what it takes to trouble him yet he appeared old and slow and his face looked like he had done 20 rounds. Diaz will probably have a decider with Paulie and Marquez will lose to Khan.
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Casamayor and Diaz should meet for the 'just glad to be here' belt.Marquez kept it smart and is facing reality calling out Manny for justified 3rd go,regardless of most recents.He does not want to be a stepping stone name and I think thats the only reason Floyd fought him...the p4p bs and Manny relation.