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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Andre
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Originally Posted by
mnmc10
the 1 inch punch or the finger thrust has been tested in the tv show sports science. it generated very little power.
Finger strike is where it was all born from. Its utterly
Useless in gloves and is used more to get someone off your ass if they are hanging off you. If used as an open palm straight into the face is actually better than the fist in my mind for that range anyway, but used with the right technique in the exact right moment as the original toe to fingers power as you move: then your eyes will be hanging off my fingers or your aorta blood flow will be mixing with your jugular blood flow or your exphixoid will will be piercing your lower heart chamber. There's a few applications and your not going to use them unless outnumbered or going for total vengeance and jail term.
Bruce Lee invented Jeet Kune do as an extension and a open path to lead on from the stilted traditional wing chun, there are Jeet kune do practitoners in MMA and they do very well. Bruce got picked on in Hong Kong when going back there because of his acting roll in the green man etc. He then went to Yip Man with William Cheung to learn Wing chun to protect himself on the streets when in Hong Kong. Which they both had to do back then.
They are both un liked in traditional Wing chun circles because of their adaptions to the tradition.
well then if you are going to kill someone by hitting then in the adams apple neck thyroid sternum or wherever pressure points. then do it with a karate chop or a proper punch. i mean it will definitely generate more power and most likely will kill your opponent quickly.
again i respect bruce lee's skills but the 1 inch punch is just an illusion.
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Originally Posted by
C-Lo
I heard when Chuck Norris jumps into a body of water, he doesn't get wet, the water gets Chuck!
Also, Chuck Norris' calendar jumps from March 31st to April 2nd cause NO ONE fools Chuck Norris!
and also chuck norris doesnt do push ups he does push downs as he doesnt push himself up he pushes the world down
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Originally Posted by
mnmc10
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Originally Posted by
Andre
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Originally Posted by
mnmc10
the 1 inch punch or the finger thrust has been tested in the tv show sports science. it generated very little power.
Finger strike is where it was all born from. Its utterly
Useless in gloves and is used more to get someone off your ass if they are hanging off you. If used as an open palm straight into the face is actually better than the fist in my mind for that range anyway, but used with the right technique in the exact right moment as the original toe to fingers power as you move: then your eyes will be hanging off my fingers or your aorta blood flow will be mixing with your jugular blood flow or your exphixoid will will be piercing your lower heart chamber. There's a few applications and your not going to use them unless outnumbered or going for total vengeance and jail term.
Bruce Lee invented Jeet Kune do as an extension and a open path to lead on from the stilted traditional wing chun, there are Jeet kune do practitoners in MMA and they do very well. Bruce got picked on in Hong Kong when going back there because of his acting roll in the green man etc. He then went to Yip Man with William Cheung to learn Wing chun to protect himself on the streets when in Hong Kong. Which they both had to do back then.
They are both un liked in traditional Wing chun circles because of their adaptions to the tradition.
well then if you are going to kill someone by hitting then in the adams apple neck thyroid sternum or wherever pressure points. then do it with a karate chop or a proper punch. i mean it will definitely generate more power and most likely will kill your opponent quickly.
again i respect bruce lee's skills but the 1 inch punch is just an illusion.
It is, its a push with twist on the end. Im just saying where its from.
There are some men (not many these days who practiced iron palm they could push finger tips through some very tough objects. It (Iron palm training) used to go hand in hand with the Bill gee form. Im just sharing where he got the idea from.
Ive seen a mans face split wide open like a knife cut from a short snap from an iron palm trainee. So I view some of these posts as uneducated.
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ3qY...eature=related
Worth a look, would'nt want to be bitch slapped by this dude :p
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I can't believe this thread has gone on for this many pages!! The final answer, CHUCK NORRIS! The man whose tears could cure cancer. The only thing is, Chuck NEVER CRIES!
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Originally Posted by
Lance Uppercut
Hmm... an Actor vs the best fighter of our generation. I can see how this can be tough decision. Or hear is an even tougher one: A prime Mike Tyson vs Sylvester Stalone
You are aware that Bruce was a Martial Artist and street fighter first and an actor second right?
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Originally Posted by
Andre
It is, its a push with twist on the end. Im just saying where its from.
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its not the punch itself its how the guy being punched was made to stand up straight with a chair behind him supposedly to catch his fall when in fact its there to make your brain think not to move the leg to keep balance cause itll hit the chair behind him.
the iron palm demo wherein the guy breaks a brick in half has trickery involved too. notice how loud and sharp the sound is everytime he hits the brick? thats cause he uses his other hand to slightly lift one side of the brick a few mm off the floor.energy is then more focused and does not transfer easily to the floor. also, notice at the point where he actually breaks the brick the other half which he is holding lifts upward. again thats due to him lifting the brick a few mm off the ground. the floor is obviously wide and solid and will pretty much absorb all of the energy. so if the brick is laid flat on it without anyone holding the brick it wont make that sharp sound instead it will make a thud sound.
bricks has very good compression strength but is very brittle. you can also put it in the oven to remove all of the trapped moisture, it will then make it more brittle.
so whats next? shaolin monks who can generate heat on their palms enough to create steam when they touch a damp towel? or kung fu masters who claim they can control a mans movement even without touching them?
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Dear god is this really occuring :cwm13:
time to kick this loaded can of 'stuff' into the fantasy forum ehh?
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Originally Posted by
C-Lo
I heard when Chuck Norris jumps into a body of water, he doesn't get wet, the water gets Chuck!
Also, Chuck Norris' calendar jumps from March 31st to April 2nd cause NO ONE fools Chuck Norris!
Sounds like the British Calendar.... They have no 4th of July :o ;D
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Originally Posted by
Lance Uppercut
Hmm... an Actor vs the best fighter of our generation. I can see how this can be tough decision. Or hear is an even tougher one: A prime Mike Tyson vs Sylvester Stalone
I believe the post was "Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao" Lance. So let me re phrase what you said. "One of the greatest boxers in our generation with hands only, vs a man that is a pure street fighter, naturally a bigger man, that can curl 80 pound dumbells, do 2 fingered one hand push ups, and widly regaurded as one of the baddest real life A$$ kickers of all time." Study the life of Bruce Lee before you make insulting comments like this!
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
I'd say Jean Claude Van Damme takes them both out at the same time while blind folded. Throw in Chuck Norris too. LOL
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titleist905t
I'd say Jean Claude Van Damme takes them both out at the same time while blind folded. Throw in Chuck Norris too. LOL
I doubt you read through the rest of the thread...
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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C-Lo
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titleist905t
I'd say Jean Claude Van Damme takes them both out at the same time while blind folded. Throw in Chuck Norris too. LOL
I doubt you read through the rest of the thread...
Does it matter? Seriously? LOL
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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titleist905t
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Originally Posted by
C-Lo
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titleist905t
I'd say Jean Claude Van Damme takes them both out at the same time while blind folded. Throw in Chuck Norris too. LOL
I doubt you read through the rest of the thread...
Does it matter? Seriously? LOL
Van Damme, Chuck Norris, Johnny Lawrence, Mike Barnes, Dolph Lundgren, Jack Bauer, Frank Dux, Michael Phelps, Jason Stillwell, and tiny Asian Lady from Chinatown have all been brought to this thread. Why on Earth is this on the main boards?!
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How about all of these guys at the same time versus bruce lee?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsbagZvkrbo
No?
Okay how about all of them, plus Kid Thunder/Brian Strege/Charlie Zelenoff versus bruce lee?
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lets end this once and for all - Star Wars Kid beats them all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPj6viIBmU&NR=1
:D
Also does anybody think of these videos when they read this thread?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiRH47J_zuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxDaMdC2s-c
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
titleist905t
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Originally Posted by
C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
titleist905t
I'd say Jean Claude Van Damme takes them both out at the same time while blind folded. Throw in Chuck Norris too. LOL
I doubt you read through the rest of the thread...
Does it matter? Seriously? LOL
Van Damme, Chuck Norris, Johnny Lawrence, Mike Barnes, Dolph Lundgren, Jack Bauer, Frank Dux, Michael Phelps, Jason Stillwell, and tiny Asian Lady from Chinatown have all been brought to this thread.
Why on Earth is this on the main boards?!
Because people like you (you've posted more than once in this thread, right? ;D) obviously enjoy this stuff.
This has more replies than any other non-sticky thread.
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
titleist905t
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Originally Posted by
C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
titleist905t
I'd say Jean Claude Van Damme takes them both out at the same time while blind folded. Throw in Chuck Norris too. LOL
I doubt you read through the rest of the thread...
Does it matter? Seriously? LOL
Van Damme, Chuck Norris, Johnny Lawrence, Mike Barnes, Dolph Lundgren, Jack Bauer, Frank Dux, Michael Phelps, Jason Stillwell, and tiny Asian Lady from Chinatown have all been brought to this thread.
Why on Earth is this on the main boards?!
Because people like you (you've posted more than once in this thread, right? ;D) obviously enjoy this stuff.
This has more replies than any other non-sticky thread.
I posted on this one and the Tyson vs Lee threads with a sense of sarcasm. At least I hope that's what it came off as...
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Claude Van Damme is a ballet dancing queer.
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
titleist905t
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Originally Posted by
C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
titleist905t
I'd say Jean Claude Van Damme takes them both out at the same time while blind folded. Throw in Chuck Norris too. LOL
I doubt you read through the rest of the thread...
Does it matter? Seriously? LOL
Van Damme, Chuck Norris, Johnny Lawrence, Mike Barnes, Dolph Lundgren, Jack Bauer, Frank Dux, Michael Phelps, Jason Stillwell, and tiny Asian Lady from Chinatown have all been brought to this thread.
Why on Earth is this on the main boards?!
Because people like you (you've posted more than once in this thread, right? ;D) obviously enjoy this stuff.
This has more replies than any other non-sticky thread.
I posted on this one and the Tyson vs Lee threads with a sense of sarcasm. At least I hope that's what it came off as...
No you have started a war. can't you see what you have done here! I hope you are happy with yourself.
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
Bruce lee lol.. he's an actor
Pacquaio fucks him up faster than he did 3k battery
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
Lee COULD beat Manny, he has all the tools in a street fight where as Manny is professional in only punching (although I'm sure he'd be proficient at whatever goes as well).
Thing is the smart money I think would have to be on Pacquiao regardless because Manny is a professional fighter and Bruce Lee was not. Neither has Bruce had the quantity and the quality of sparring that Manny has. And in Bruce Lee's own words, most often than not, it's the person who can punch better that will usually win the fight. In fact his whole system was based around punching first concepts.
Look at kick boxing and muay thai, those fights usually end on a straight right punch. And of all the combat sports and martial arts it is the boxers that have the fastest reflexes of all because they deal in punches which are closer range and faster than kicks and grabs so they have to have them!
Manny UD or by beat down on the street.. If he is shrewd enough to not let Lee kick him somewhere soft.
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Lee wins, no contest! Manny could never, never match Lee's audibles. No, I did not read the entire thread.
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Tony Ja and Jet Li would beat kick Lee's ass
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Tony Jaa is the best martial arts actor for sure! Does his own stunts.
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Bruce lee lol.. he's an actor
Pacquaio fucks him up faster than he did 3k battery
he was also highly trained in wing chun by ip man himself i doubt pacman would last 60 seconds.
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Bruce would kill him. Manny has much better hands, Bruce has much better everything else. Bruce trained grappling and submissions as well - he was a pioneer of MMA in a lot of ways.
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
One of the biggest misconceptions people have about Bruce Lee is that he was just another action star, like Jackie Chan or Jet Li. Another guy who had incredible athleticism, but was only tough in front of a camera.
Bruce was a martial artist who saw film as a way to spread his philosophies of fighting. Bruce Lee had a lot of fighting experience in tournements/challenge matches, on the street, and in sparring. And if he wasn't fighting, he was training. And if he wasn't training, he was think about fighting.
His ideas were really ground breaking. In a time where idiots where squabbling about which style was the best (karate, kung fu, boxing, judo, ect), he said "no, you're all stupid. It's about the individual. You should train EVERYTHING and be well rounded. Be adaptable like water, take the techniques that work and use them, if it doesn't work, forget it."
Which was genius, because 30 years after his death his theories were proven by the evolution of MMA, where to survive you had to be able to strike, wrestle, and grapple.
If you're a fight fan, you have to give it up to Bruce.
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
He also did some boxing training and fencing training I would think lees hand speed would also be faster than pacmans
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g3org3
He also did some boxing training and fencing training I would think lees hand speed would also be faster than pacmans
I woudln't go that far haha
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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g3org3
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
Bruce lee lol.. he's an actor
Pacquaio fucks him up faster than he did 3k battery
he was also highly trained in wing chun by ip man himself i doubt pacman would last 60 seconds.
Lol
Calzaghe was into that wing chun shit too..
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What's next.. van damme knocks out Kovalev with his super splits
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Manny couldn't beat Steven Seagal right now............if you ask Seagal that is. Lol
Full contact fighting is the only proven martial art (boxing kickboxing mma grappling). As Bruce Lee said "Boards don't hit back".
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
Manny Paq is one of the greatest professional boxers in a h2h sense for his size that ever lived.
Anybody who thinks Bruce Lee's collection of ninja turtle video's (or whatever the cartoon of his day was called) can compete with that is a fucking idiot! LOL
So he had streetfights and sparring right? Big deal! There are millions of guys that are amateur boxers and beat people up all the time but they are not world ranked professional fighters! And never would be!
Lee's only shot is a swift kick in the nuts as Manny is moving in for the kill!
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Re: Bruce Lee Vs Manny Pacquiao
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Max Power
Manny Paq is one of the greatest professional boxers in a h2h sense for his size that ever lived.
Anybody who thinks Bruce Lee's collection of ninja turtle video's (or whatever the cartoon of his day was called) can compete with that is a fucking idiot! LOL
So he had streetfights and sparring right? Big deal! There are millions of guys that are amateur boxers and beat people up all the time but they are not world ranked professional fighters! And never would be!
Lee's only shot is a swift kick in the nuts as Manny is moving in for the kill!
Those so called " streetfights" he got into werent even well documented and its not like he fought in the 30s or 40s.. he was active in the 70s and beibg as famous as he was, its hard to believe nobody was able to get footages of him in action... and those fake 1 inch punch crap he did in the dojos dont count..
Bunch of fairtales if u ask me..
I really respect his philosophies though. He was clearly ahead of his time..
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Yeah I'm extremely sceptical about those too. I think the stories are vastly exaggerated for fame and legitimacy purposes. As for the 1-inch punch business, don't get me started! haha
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I really don't dislike Bruce Lee, I'm actually a fan like everyone else. I've been to his and his sons grave site to visit. My only problem is what his popularity brought. TMA schools.
My biggest problem is TMA, traditional martial art or "artist". IMO these guys are either delusional or frauds. The money they make teaching nonsense is ridiculous and yes I once upon a time spend thousands as a youth. The other problem is the MOvies and gullible morons. Growing up movies and video games made boxers and wrestlers look like just brainless brutes. While you got TMAs like kung fu and karate looking like superior athletes with unlimited amount of stamina and fighting I.Q.
I'm pretty passionate about talking about this shit so I'm trying not to write a book here but nobody trains harder than a professional boxer. Boxers and wrestlers are the only two who know what its like to have to make weight for a fight. That alone is a battle not suited for 70% of men let alone the real combat they prepare for.
I'm always going to shutdown any tma mofo when they talk about beating a boxer or mma. I'm dedicate to this shit and most of the time none of these TMA guys are even willing to put it to the actual physical test. They just want to continue living a fucking lie. They not fighters they glorified dancers.
They always use the argument about boxing or mma or wrestling is a sport but fail to realize applying rules to anything makes it harder to win. They say kung fu is too dangerous and can kill people. Never heard of a murder cause by kung fu or TMA but I've heard of plenty and seen deaths in boxing. Man I can go on and on about this shit. I know its coming but I can't wait for the day that there are no more of these fraudulent scams. MMA is the proving ground for all martial art and for those who are being proven false are of course dissing MMA.
Growing up with 5 brothers all we did was fight and watch fights. We love TMA growing up but when you are actually trying to win fights in real fights against a fully resisting opponent you find out what works and what don't work. Personally what I've found out is boxing, muay thai, wrestling and ju jitsu works. The four main ingredient of a good MMA fighter. Those fancy animal forms are nonsense, just like any other Chinese made product. Fucking scam artist and I can't stand the fact that there are plenty of nerds who believe this enough to pay thousands a year for lessons they are told not to use. Yea you are a walking deadly weapon cause you know kung fu.
Alright I need to stop now this is pointless anyway, just wanted to vent that out and hopefully somebody who disagree reads it but some day realize what I'm saying here holds truth from a real fight fan. I'm not a fan of stunts and choreograph fighting. I'm a fan of real time fighting with risk and real brave and those who train hard to prove real forms of fighting. Fuck the frauds, if I could I'd go to every TMA school and knockout there "masters"! I see them as scam artist and nothing more.
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Beanflicker
Bruce would kill him. Manny has much better hands, Bruce has much better everything else. Bruce trained grappling and submissions as well - he was a pioneer of MMA in a lot of ways.
What a joke these Pac huggers. Who can suck Arums dick better Pac or Linda Lovelace?
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Originally Posted by
FinitoElDinamita
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Originally Posted by
Max Power
Manny Paq is one of the greatest professional boxers in a h2h sense for his size that ever lived.
Anybody who thinks Bruce Lee's collection of ninja turtle video's (or whatever the cartoon of his day was called) can compete with that is a
fucking idiot! LOL
So he had streetfights and sparring
right? Big deal! There are millions of guys that are amateur boxers and beat people up all the time but they are not world ranked professional fighters! And never would be!
Lee's only shot is a swift kick in the nuts as Manny is moving in for the kill!
Those so called " streetfights" he got into werent even well documented and its not like he fought in the 30s or 40s.. he was active in the 70s and beibg as famous as he was, its hard to believe nobody was able to get footages of him in action... and those fake 1 inch punch crap he did in the dojos dont count..
Bunch of fairtales if u ask me..
I really respect his philosophies though. He was clearly ahead of his time..
So new thread is JMM could put Bruce Lee to sleep
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No need for a thread. I think it's a pretty reasonably safe call that JMM could sleep Lee for awhile.