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Great upset !
So many veterans say "I'm going to take him into deep water and drown him" and so often that doesn't happen.
But tonight Rubio did exactly what he said he was going to do, he survived the early onslaught, picked his spots, countered very well and beat Lemieux.
Lemieux really needs to learn how to clinch, and not to throw himself out.
Bit of an early stoppage by the corner, but better too early than too late.
Great performance by Rubio. It's always a bad idea to underestimate an experienced fighter. I felt bad for Lemiuex - you could tell he was really embarrassed by the result. I don't think it was bad sportsmanship with him getting outta there ASAP, he was just mortified. Hopefully he will be able to get back on the horse, cause he's got a lot to work with and he's exciting to watch. Plus he's a kid!
By the way...
Fuck! Marlon Wright to this day. :mad:
Good win for Rubio. Lemieux is very exciting, but he needs more experience. Would like to see him go for a WBA eliminator against Khurtsidze or Macklin.
Well, at last now he know how big the world is.
He wasted too much energy to dominate the first 5 round. He got caught in the sixth and still wanted to go all in. If only he had thrown his pride in the 7th and switched into a tight defence, he would have won that fight.
Anyway, the kid just turned 22 last December. He got a lot of boxing before him. I just hope he'll see this lost as a positive experience and learn from it.
And that's what his corner seemed to be getting at after the fight. He's only 22. Khan rebounded after being more viciously knocked out as did David Haye. Lemieux can do it too. It was wierd though that the first time someone stood up to his punches for a little while, he folded. He needs to learn to pace himself maybe a little bit better. I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eloking
How did Rubio go into this fight an underdog? In his last fight Lemieux beat 37 year old Gates, his biggest win is over Camacho Jr., and he went 10 with Naugler, who had lost 5 of his previous 6 and two more since, and he has less than 55 total rounds of pro experience. Rubio is only 30, has fought against and held his own with a much much higher level of competition, and hasn't lost in a long time. Other than one fight where he got caught cold, and against Pavlik (when he was on his roll), he seems to have a pretty reliable chin; a good solid pro, and methinks the Lemiuex camp bit off too big a bite.
You are 100% right with 20/20 hindsight. But, the winner of the fight got a mandatory title shot against Zbik or Chavez Jr., which would be a major pay day. They probably looked at the Rubio v. Pavlik fight and thought Lemieux could do the same. Truth is, and as you point out, maybe he can, but not yet. In reality, he should have turned pro later.Quote:
Originally Posted by greynotsoold
Hmm it's quite early to say that. It'll depend on how Lemieux will deal with this defeat. The need of the perfect score is overrated. But if he turn like Prince Hamed, then yes I'll agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I will watch it tomorrow. Thanks for the coverage.
Zuniga/Oganov repeat. Time will tell.
From what i saw Lemiuex has no defence... This means he can't stay in there and take his time and if he can't hurt the oder guy he is gone... It's funny how the punchers go insane when they can't hurt someone.
He has a 64 inch reach. Tell me how he should approach the 160 to 168 division? Rely on the power or box?
Just watched this fight. Lemiuex is definately too easy to hit and looked terribly small in there. I say Rubio has a decent chin to take some of the shots he took. Lemiuex and his team also need to learn a little more patience. He'll bounce back, maybe he could have a shot at making LightMiddle??
I'm sure he looked to have a broken jaw in there. Good call for the stoppage for me, he was clearly going to take some punishment in there, and at 22, is just unecessary.
Yes Lemiuex was poor, head hunting and very predictable. Rubio is not world class and just handled him far too easily.
Losing to Rubio is one thing, losing to Ishida is quite another. A loss to Rubio can be chalked up just getting cocky and taking a fight that Lemieux wasn't ready for, a loss to Ishida is sorta damning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'll tell you this. I would favor Lemieux or Rubio over Zbik or Chavez Jr.
I think Chevaz Jnr can beat Rubio.
He needs to get by Zbik first, but assuming that happens, that's a fight I'd lay a sig bet down on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
When I said I think I was not that certain. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratHe needs to get by Zbik first, but assuming that happens, that's a fight I'd lay a sig bet down on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
fair play. let's see how he looks against Zbik.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhen I said I think I was not that certain. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratHe needs to get by Zbik first, but assuming that happens, that's a fight I'd lay a sig bet down on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master