For the last time, his being a well rounded boxer is not a positive going into this fight!;D If anything his only chance is to try and fight like Hatton did.
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For the last time, his being a well rounded boxer is not a positive going into this fight!;D If anything his only chance is to try and fight like Hatton did.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
Cotto's best chance is to keep Floyd guessing if he's going to box or going to brawl. Hatton had 1 style and how many rounds did that win him? Miguel Cotto is diverse in his approach and to not use the gifts & skills he has is fucking stupid......perhaps Miguel should just windmill his arms around and walk towards Floyd.
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Originally Posted by El Kabong:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Cotto's best chance is to keep Floyd guessing if he's going to box or going to brawl. Hatton had 1 style and how many rounds did that win him? Miguel Cotto is diverse in his approach and to not use the gifts & skills he has is fucking stupid......perhaps Miguel should just windmill his arms around and walk towards Floyd.
Had Cotto not dropped Joe Santiago from his corner after one ill-advised fight with him..... there's no telling WHAT the fight plan would've been going into the Floyd fight. Damn, I wish he could've had that Pacquaio fight back.
Correct. He has to be the old Cotto willing to engage and go to war. This stick and move Cotto has no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Hatton gets put down, but he did better against Floyd than everyone in recent years.
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Originally Posted by GandalfCorrect. He has to be the old Cotto willing to engage and go to war. This stick and move Cotto has no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Hatton gets put down, but he did better against Floyd than everyone in recent years.
Thank you;D I'm not saying Cotto shouldn't be smart, but for him to box with Floyd is basically conceding defeat. His ability to move and fight off the back foot will not serve him whatsoever and he needs to know this. He needs to come forward behind his jab and really invest in the body if he wants to even make a fight of it imo. Also Lyle, Hatton did what he could against Floyd and that was far from windmilling his arms:rolleyes: He had much faster feet than Cotto at that point and still could barely ever get in position to land meaningfully.
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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
Its not like Cotto to do it but he should say at the weigh in "I would of been polite and asked for a rematch clause with you Floyd but you wont be out and about for that one Im told". ;) 1-0 Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
I would try every trick in the book if i was Miguel, even fainting injury late in rounds to draw him in to go for the kill.
Id be practicing alot of elbow blocks with half steps and hooks too.
Flying hooks around jabs taking the jab with the rear, switching to follow floyd out faster on angles and step jab and smother, you name it, every trick in the book.
We live in hope.
So would I. Nothing to lose and perhaps its his last fight anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreIts not like Cotto to do it but he should say at the weigh in "I would of been polite and asked for a rematch clause with you Floyd but you wont be out and about for that one Im told". ;) 1-0 Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
I would try every trick in the book if i was Miguel, even fainting injury late in rounds to draw him in to go for the kill.
Id be practicing alot of elbow blocks with half steps and hooks too.
Flying hooks around jabs taking the jab with the rear, switching to follow floyd out faster on angles and step jab and smother, you name it, every trick in the book.
We live in hope.
This is the best post from a new member I've read in a good while, hope you stick around:)Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
Eggggsactly! Very level headed response.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
I get the feeling most people are reaching for arguments that mean if Floyd wins he automatically doesn't get credit.. instead of looking at the facts. Cotto is a champion in a higher weight class and a future Hall of Famer with a stellar CV.
I've said before that if you think Floyd is going to have such a stroll in the park against Cotto then you're a bigger fan of him than the most ardent of Flomo's.
Indeed. That is a common thread across all forums. If Floyd wins Cotto was shot but the Floyd fans who believe this will be a walk in the park have nothing to gloat about either. After all it was a forgone conclusion right?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzEggggsactly! Very level headed response.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
I get the feeling most people are reaching for arguments that mean if Floyd wins he automatically doesn't get credit.. instead of looking at the facts. Cotto is a champion in a higher weight class and a future Hall of Famer with a stellar CV.
I've said before that if you think Floyd is going to have such a stroll in the park against Cotto then you're a bigger fan of him than the most ardent of Flomo's.
Imagine if Cotto pulls it off? Not sure its as big as Tyson/Douglas but it would have to be up there.
The 911 calls would be off the charts.
I think Mayweather has Cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
You're a complete retard. That is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI think Mayweather has Cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
And you're retarded for caling people retarded that disagree with your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacYou're a complete retard. That is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI think Mayweather has Cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
And you're retarded for spelling the word 'calling' wrong. :) But I like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by arminAnd you're retarded for caling people retarded that disagree with your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacYou're a complete retard. That is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI think Mayweather has Cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Oh no he DI'INT ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by slim the boxingmaniacand you're retarded for spelling the word 'calling' wrong. :) but i like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by arminand you're retarded for caling people retarded that disagree with your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by slim the boxingmaniacyou're a complete retard. That is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirkland laingi think mayweather has cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by masterthat is what hatton has said too, but if it is close i think cotto will not lose his head like ricky did.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirkland laing
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Originally Posted by IamInuitIndeed. That is a common thread across all forums. If Floyd wins Cotto was shot but the Floyd fans who believe this will be a walk in the park have nothing to gloat about either. After all it was a forgone conclusion right?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzEggggsactly! Very level headed response.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
I get the feeling most people are reaching for arguments that mean if Floyd wins he automatically doesn't get credit.. instead of looking at the facts. Cotto is a champion in a higher weight class and a future Hall of Famer with a stellar CV.
I've said before that if you think Floyd is going to have such a stroll in the park against Cotto then you're a bigger fan of him than the most ardent of Flomo's.
Imagine if Cotto pulls it off? Not sure its as big as Tyson/Douglas but it would have to be up there.
The 911 calls would be off the charts.
Listen, the bottom line is Cotto is a very good fighter. Thus, Floyd is facing a very good fighter. It's not the toughest challenge out there for Floyd at 154, but it's the toughest big money fight, other than Pacquiao or Martinez out there. I don't take anything away from Floyd for taking the fight. I didn't take anything away from him for taking the Ortiz fight, even though Ortiz was way out of his depth. For the competition at or around that weight class, there is/was nothing wrong with either choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzEggggsactly! Very level headed response.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
I get the feeling most people are reaching for arguments that mean if Floyd wins he automatically doesn't get credit.. instead of looking at the facts. Cotto is a champion in a higher weight class and a future Hall of Famer with a stellar CV.
I've said before that if you think Floyd is going to have such a stroll in the park against Cotto then you're a bigger fan of him than the most ardent of Flomo's.
I stand by the fact that though that Cotto hasn't proved anything of real substance at 154 and in my estimation was more effective when his punches mattered more at 147, even 140, when he was younger. I really believe Cotto is at 154, not because he needs to be there, but because it's easier for him to be there. It's not like he has been out there challenging the best at 154, prior to this fight.
Wow, thanks for educating me. I totally believed that one spelled "calling" caling, it wasn't just a random typo due to being on a phone. Always nice when one has to resort to pointing out simple typos, but it's alright cause usually you're ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacAnd you're retarded for spelling the word 'calling' wrong. :) But I like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by arminAnd you're retarded for caling people retarded that disagree with your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacYou're a complete retard. That is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI think Mayweather has Cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
;D I read almost every post before I post it, just to make sure I haven't goofed up on it. It works well for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by arminWow, thanks for educating me. I totally believed that one spelled "calling" caling, it wasn't just a random typo due to being on a phone. Always nice when one has to resort to pointing out simple typos, but it's alright cause usually you're ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacAnd you're retarded for spelling the word 'calling' wrong. :) But I like you.Quote:
Originally Posted by arminAnd you're retarded for caling people retarded that disagree with your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacYou're a complete retard. That is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI think Mayweather has Cotto all worked out after a few rounds and then dominates. Cotto spends the rest of the fight concentrating on taking as little punishment as he can so that he hears the bell at the end of the twelfth/lives to fight another day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is what Hatton has said too, but if it is close I think Cotto will not lose his head like Ricky did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Although, mistakes happen. I'm just a dickhead is all. :)
I would just omit the FAST part. As much as I want Cotto to pull this off I see too many pot holes for him. He's not out thinking or out boxing Floyd, he must revert early. His flesh and Floyds hand speed and elbow are a terrible combination, his foot speed is pedestrian compared and Floyd wont give him the range he needs early on. I DO think Cotto has the jab and punch to get Mayweathers respect but just cannot see him keeping pace with Floyd. I have nothing but respect for Cotto but vs this rate, speed and boxing mind he'll square, start hookey counters and it'll be nothing but playing catch up after. Mayweather doesn't have to concuss him to knock him out, just turn him and pull the cord on the lawn mower. I've been on a bad run of predictions so frankly I hope to stay the course here...Mayweather via bloody tko on cuts.
Cotto has a better chance of beating Floyd than did Dela Hoya or Mosley, only because he's not as old and slow and certainly has much better boxing skill than Ortiz. His biggest negative with infighting, his he too clean a fighter to out point Floyd on the inside and not fast enough on the outside. He needs a page out of Duran's book. I still see it as a close point fight with no KO's.
Unless Cotto surprises him he isnt going to win using basics,we have all lived in hope with other grand fighters against Floyd over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzEggggsactly! Very level headed response.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I don’t see it that way at all. Cotto has a great jab and you need one of those to even enter the chance sweepstakes. Cotto will also try to switch seeing that he’s a natural leftie but he will attempt to go south paw and especially his feet at the right moments. Can’t see him trying to box that way or he will be eating right hands. There are plenty of intangibles in this fight and it puzzles me at the amount of people across the web who give Cotto no shot at all. I wonder if people said the same thing about Lamotta the first time he faced Robinson. Cotto has a new trainer and seems rejuvenated. I bet they watched the Oscar and Castillo 1 fights over and over again even though Cotto is previously known to not watch tape. People are really discounting Diaz as a trainer.
Another aspect that people do not really talk about or dismiss out hand is Floyds head space. Part of his game plan is getting under his opponent’s skin as the reactions fuel his own fire. Talk about subdued; this 24/7 is a cure for insomnia. Add to that thee impending doom even though it is only 90 days and he does 45. He’s got about a month of freedom left. Nobody can tell me that does not have an effect also. This combined with his inactivity and conserved use of his legs lately could make for at least and interesting first half. Cotto could not have the stars more aligned to give him his best chance.
Will he win? Highly unlikely. Can he win? Floyds a human with a lot going on. Wishful thinking I suppose being a die hard Cotto fan but upsets are a big part of boxing. I do think it will be a much better fight then most. If I was betting I’d put the coin with Floyd in a comfortable UD. No stoppage I don’t think because they are wearing Grants and Everlast. Same with Alvarez and Shane. I would have thought there would be a couple of pairs Reyes in the mix.
Have not posted in awhile. Excuse the long winded response.
I get the feeling most people are reaching for arguments that mean if Floyd wins he automatically doesn't get credit.. instead of looking at the facts. Cotto is a champion in a higher weight class and a future Hall of Famer with a stellar CV.
I've said before that if you think Floyd is going to have such a stroll in the park against Cotto then you're a bigger fan of him than the most ardent of Flomo's.
Hope you are right. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
With respect I do not think Oscar was 'old' when he fought mayweather. He always had a tendency to tire out later in rounds. However Mosley was not not the same man he was years before. He was on a noticeable decline.
As for Cotto he's been in many wars and I don't know how he'll do.
Hate to say I told you so..but I fucking did didn't I? ;)
Great performance by Cotto
What? It was a close and good fight. Cotto went for the body and out jabbed and bloodied Floyds nose. When was the last time you saw that. That was one of the hardest fights he has had for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
Exactly - I told you it would be highly competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWhat? It was a close and good fight. Cotto went for the body and out jabbed and bloodied Floyds nose. When was the last time you saw that. That was one of the hardest fights he has had for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
There were some ridiculous posts in this thread like Rantacrats "Cotto isnt as hungry, isnt as good, is lazier, is more fat than he used to be thats why he's at 154 yaddi yaddi yada"
Anything to discredit the opponent when of course, the fight was nothing like that.
Floyd had to earn that victory and it was a pretty exciting fight as well. Great respect shown between the two at the end also...love to see that.
Man. Your a dummy. Go back to watching baseball for a bit. Clearly your burned out ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Had to be said ;D. I have not seen the fight but am very happy to hear that both gave and took mutually. No beat downs or walk overs and per norm I take it Cotto covered himself in pride and fought as such. Nice to hear Floyd sacing up and the respect in the press afterwards. Cannot wait to see the replay!