HBO: Martinez vs Murray, Arreola vs Stiverne.... Saturday night fight thread

Knockdown or not ?

Murray could win this!

Are they using open scoring on this one?

7-3 Murray, they should use replay to determine if that was a KD.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Are they using open scoring on this one?

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Yes. Every card had Martinez up after 8.

That was a kd and I got Murray ahead by 3 points.

That was a knockdown IMO

Definitely a KD.

Doesnt matter what his feet are doing, that was a knockdown.

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Originally Posted by ICB

Knockdown or not ?

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On replay yes

Damn....the ref and the judges seem to be keeping Martinez in this one. I know open scoring had Martinez ahead after eight, but Murray has to be winning this one!

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

That was a kd and I got Murray ahead by 3 points.

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I have him up by 5 I think.

I wonder how much the knee surgery and rain are affecting Martinez. He looks slow of footand has not been able to control the geography at all. Stop backing straight up!!! Martinez is going to lose here Murray might actually stop him.

Murray needs to continue to press and not give this round away.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Are they using open scoring on this one?

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Yes. Every card had Martinez up after 8.

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Open scoring is two hundred percent horseshit. Useless! It neuters every aspect of a fight

Martinez is losing this fight, a real close fight.

7-4 Murray. He's going to get robbed.

Murray lost the last round and since he didn't get the KD called, he badly needs this 12th round otherwise he could get robbed.

I think Martinez just stole 2 of the last 3 rounds while having shit for legs. Winner of this round wins the fight for me.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

Martinez is losing this fight, a real close fight.

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I don't think it's that close. Martinez has hit gloves all night.

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Originally Posted by CFH

7-4 Murray. He's going to get robbed.

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This seems like the inevitable conclusion. The judges would have to have a big swing to Murray for this not to be given to Martinez.

Is Murray going to go away undefeated but without a title for the second in a row?

8-4 Murray, plus an extra point for the KD.

I had Murray by 115-111, but we all know what home town decisions can be like.

I think Murray has won this clearly and if he'd had the other knockdown scored, there wouldn't be any doubt.

The MOST corrupt fight I've seen in about 27 yrs happened in Argentina

If you love your laptop or tele get ready to throw shit at it. Just sayin

Am I blind? I don't think this was close at all. Murray outlanded Martinez, landed the better punches, dropped him, displayed better defence, and controlled the ring.

THis is an absolute robbery if Martinez wins.

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Originally Posted by CFH

7-4 Murray. He's going to get robbed.

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Too bad but you may be right. A very close fight according to the judges?

Murray won that for me. I had it 7-5 with a knockdown. Should have been 2 knockdwons. Murray is about to get robbed.

They used the replay and decided it was a slip ? wow :rolleyes:

How can you look at that on replay and decide it was a slip!?! Fucking absurd.

Murray won the 12th and the fight. Should be a ud but again based on the one stupis card after 8 who the F knows. If Murray is not to win this then call it a draw.

I had Murray winning, I dont think the inevitable Martinez win is a robbery though, the 12th couldve gone either way.

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Originally Posted by CFH

Am I blind? I don't think this was close at all. Murray outlanded Martinez, landed the better punches, dropped him, displayed better defence, and controlled the ring.

THis is an absolute robbery if Martinez wins.

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Absolute robbery

That is a crock right there.

Robbery. Every fucking week this happens. Fuck you boxing.

What a load of shit. Fucking Suliaman has saved him for Chavez.

Well, the robbery is in. Bet he gets his wallet nicked on the way back to the airport too. BA seems a lot like Liverpool.

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Originally Posted by amat

I had Murray winning, I dont think the inevitable Martinez win is a robbery though, the 12th couldve gone either way.

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Martinez did nothing effective all night. I don't understand anyway the fight could be scored for him, let alone by 115-112 on all cards.

Judges were tripping. Fight much closer. But I gave it to Martinez by a point. Last two rounds won the fight. Murray would've lost the kd round if not for the kd. Good fight

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Originally Posted by bzkfn

What a load of shit. Fucking Suliaman has saved him for Chavez.

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Martinez won't see the 6th round if he fights Chavez again.