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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Greenbeanz
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Vendettos
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Greenbeanz
I hope not. We will never hear the end of how the undeserving hype job son of a pro waltzed into an opportunity on Daddies coat tails after fighting a handful of nobodies.
You got daddy issues princess?
Who cares how he did it, he is deserving of a fight with Saunders and he'll smash him!
The whole point is that he has done nothing to be deserving and Saunders is the one doing him a favour by gifting him an opportunity. I don't have any issues with my old man, he is the most extraordinary human being I have ever met but that is irrelevant here. It is a fact that Eubank Jr could have fought himself into a mandatory position for any of Saunders belts but had no desire too. Short cut generation, they want the fame without the hard work or product necessary to make it mean anything.
That clear enough for you Rab ?:p
I'm sorry but Pianeta getting a shot at Wlad was a joke, that kind of shit annoys me so I understand your point.
But Eubank Jr looks a few classes above shitty Brit level fighter average Joe Saunders. Now Saunders won the Euro title and that's all he does, he losses it obviously on Saturday and my guess it he'll probably never fight anyone we've ever heard of again outside of domestic shitfests.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
He reminds me of George Boy Collins does BJS , a hype job again overrated he will not
stand up to any decent middle weight. Eubank for his part has had 20 fights ! so he has
served his apprenticeship, it time to deliver I hope it a good fight it's got to be I don't no if
I have recovered from last weeks fiasco. :eek:
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
I don't think we know exactly what will happen , but im going for BJS on points.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Dark Lord Al
I don't think we know exactly what will happen , but im going for BJS on points.
Thats the safe, sensible bet.
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ross
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Dark Lord Al
I don't think we know exactly what will happen , but im going for BJS on points.
Thats the safe, sensible bet.
I think you're right, because there is so much unknown about Eubank
I think Eubank will win by knockout
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
Eubanks wins he is a class above.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Master
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IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
His dad despite his oddness is made of British steel. I reckon there might be some in Jnr.
I know his dad didn't let him box for years hence him going to America to learn his craft.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Dark Lord Al
I don't think we know exactly what will happen , but im going for BJS on points.
I'm edging towards Eubank. But you are right we are all taking stabs really.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
The experience and adversity dad has and faced are priceless and he can pass that knowledge to his son. Still no guarantee junior will be a success but it is an advantage.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
The experience and adversity dad has and faced are priceless and he can pass that knowledge to his son. Still no guarantee junior will be a success but it is an advantage.
Have you read his autobiography Master? you can't not love him after that.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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ryanman
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Master
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IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
The experience and adversity dad has and faced are priceless and he can pass that knowledge to his son. Still no guarantee junior will be a success but it is an advantage.
Have you read his autobiography Master? you can't not love him after that.
Yes. I think Chris is brilliant but barmy. Remember what he did at his dads funeral?
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
The experience and adversity dad has and faced are priceless and he can pass that knowledge to his son. Still no guarantee junior will be a success but it is an advantage.
I never said his dads wisdom is not valuable. Of course it is but it can also go extreme the other way when a father starts reliving his own life through his son.
The point I'm making is that you never know how you will deal with adversity until you are in it.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Master
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ryanman
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Master
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IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
The experience and adversity dad has and faced are priceless and he can pass that knowledge to his son. Still no guarantee junior will be a success but it is an advantage.
Have you read his autobiography Master? you can't not love him after that.
Yes. I think Chris is brilliant but barmy. Remember what he did at his dads funeral?
Yes. I was just telling Maxine about that. The steel of the man.
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I liked Eubank Sr he came into the Ring to simply the best, he stood there like a Greek god
it was marvellous TV great entertainment.:)
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Dia bando
I liked Eubank Sr he came into the Ring to simply the best, he stood there like a Greek god
it was marvellous TV great entertainment.:)
I think his dad is one of the greatest super mids that has ever lived. Cal may have never got past him a couple of years earlier.
This is a real test for his son and I like both him and Saunders. I'm merely saying that this is the kids first real test.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
The experience and adversity dad has and faced are priceless and he can pass that knowledge to his son. Still no guarantee junior will be a success but it is an advantage.
I never said his dads wisdom is not valuable. Of course it is but it can also go extreme the other way when a father starts reliving his own life through his son.
The point I'm making is that you never know how you will deal with adversity until you are in it.
True enough. But I reckon he might have some of those genes.
Although Snr had poverty to fight out of which Jnr doesn't.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Dia bando
I liked Eubank Sr he came into the Ring to simply the best, he stood there like a Greek god
it was marvellous TV great entertainment.:)
I think his dad is one of the greatest super mids that has ever lived. Cal may have never got past him a couple of years earlier.
This is a real test for his son and I like both him and Saunders. I'm merely saying that this is the kids first real test.
Yes it is and I am so excited about the fight!!!!!
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ryanman
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
ryanman
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
The experience and adversity dad has and faced are priceless and he can pass that knowledge to his son. Still no guarantee junior will be a success but it is an advantage.
Have you read his autobiography Master? you can't not love him after that.
Yes. I think Chris is brilliant but barmy. Remember what he did at his dads funeral?
Yes. I was just telling Maxine about that. The steel of the man.
I thought it was totally inappropriate, there is a time and a place and that was not it to criticise his dad. He got chased out of the town!
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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Master
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ryanman
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
ryanman
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
ross
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Master
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Hard work and dedication vs name fame and high expectations through genetics.
I've seen it before in Marvis Frazier, Ronald Hearns and the Chavez brothers.
Eubanks are different breed of family. Dad made sure son really had the abilility before he allowed him to step in the ring.
But he lacks one thing and that's managing adversity. He has not had any. Now maybe he does fine. But this is where a lot before him have failed. In their first taste of it. If this was a natural talent contest he'd win hands down. Personally I can see this fight going either way. Jr steps up and shows he's the real deal or he folds after getting hit flush a few times for the first time.
I think the way he dealt with Benn and Watson and also how he has dictated terms to warren goes some way to proving that eubank can take whats thrown at him and turn it around.
That is his dad and not him. One does not gain the ability to manage adversity through osmosis.
The experience and adversity dad has and faced are priceless and he can pass that knowledge to his son. Still no guarantee junior will be a success but it is an advantage.
Have you read his autobiography Master? you can't not love him after that.
Yes. I think Chris is brilliant but barmy. Remember what he did at his dads funeral?
Yes. I was just telling Maxine about that. The steel of the man.
I thought it was totally inappropriate, there is a time and a place and that was not it to criticise his dad. He got chased out of the town!
Haha. Yeah it was totally the wrong place. But I had to admire his single-mindedness.
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Ftr Jr could have been chomping at the bit for this moment. To climb out from behind his fathers boot straps and become his own man. Could be his most liberating time as a young fighter.
Btw, the irony of this thread becoming about his father did not go unnoticed;D
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
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IamInuit
Ftr Jr could have been chomping at the bit for this moment. To climb out from behind his fathers boot straps and become his own man. Could be his most liberating time as a young fighter.
Btw, the irony of this thread becoming about his father did not go unnoticed;D
I have no idea what you mean ;)
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
This was the best possible outcome for Warren. Saunders can go on and have his world title shot and Eubank has good loss. SD against a top 10 in the div is credible and shows he can cut it at the top. I think he will struggle against any big punchers though.
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
If Lee beats Korobov Saunders-Lee is an absolutely massive fight with the pikey/Irish community. They'll fill the Docklands arena again for that one.
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Kirkland Laing
If Lee beats Korobov Saunders-Lee is an absolutely massive fight with the pikey/Irish community. They'll fill the Docklands arena again for that one.
But Lee probably won't beat Koborov....
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
Did Eubank batter Saunders ?
Who won the fight in the end ?
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Re: Chris Eubank Jnr will batter Saunders
Eubanks battered Saunders in some rounds but not enough to win the contest.
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Dark Lord Al
Did Eubank batter Saunders ?
Who won the fight in the end ?
The ref thought so. Had to save Saumders in the last rou d and pull Eubank off him for about 10 seconds!
;D
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Would be a very interesting rematch, Eubank just needs to seriously up his work rate and throw way more punches and also start boxing from the first bell instead of the 5-6 round.
I'd lose Eubank snr too at least get him the fuck out of my corner during fights.
Saunders boxed clever and deserved the win but I think Eubank should have just swarmed him from the start and must be kicking himself now.
Bad tactics most probably from his dads gameplan hoping BJS would run out of steam then be a sitting duck for the KO.
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Im thinking a new caravan.;D
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Haha have you seen the post fight video on youtube of Saunders saying " fair play to Eubank but he's still a cunt" funny stuff
This kinda sums up what I think of Eubank snr interfering
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the-pugilist/how-chris-eubank-cost-his-son-the-biggest-victory-of-his-career-against-billy-joe-saunders-154313201.html
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Jnr didn't do anything in the first 5 rounds....if only he had done more it might of been a win
never mind Jnr will hopefully learn from that and be even better
Good fight and well done to the winner
Job Biscuit (Great night of boxing...apart from the Main...which was crap)!!!!
eh eh!!!
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Fenster
Lot of confidence in a guy that has never been past 8 rounds and never fought a "live" opponent.
Billy Joe's last 6 opponents
Jarrod Fletcher - 12-0 when he fought BJ. 6-1 since with his only loss coming in a "world" title challenge.
Nick Blackwell - 12-1 Gone 3-1-1 since. Only loss in International title fight. Previous loss against Martin Murray.
Matthew Hall - 25-6 Former Commonwealth champion. Retired.
Spike O'Sullivan - 16-0 Irish middleweight champ. International titlist. 1-0 since.
John Ryder - 15-0 Unbeaten since. Won international title.
Emanuele Blandamura - 22-0 International titlist. Not fought since.
Eubank Jr last 6 opponents
Alistair Warren - 8-5-3 Taxi driver.
Sandor Micsko - 22-5-2 Hungarian road sweeper.
Robert Swierzbinski - 13-2 Polish taxi driver.
Stepan Horvath - 12-3 Czech Republic Postman. Since KO'd in 2 rounds by Liam Williams
Ivan Jukic - 19-2 Croatian Milkman.
Omar Siala - 23-17-3 German Greengrocer.
Imagine if we reversed the opponents, is there anyone that thinks Billy Joe wouldn't KO all 6 of Eubank's comp inside 7 rounds?
Would Eubank jr be a cert against Billy Joe's comp? I think he could beat them but i'd want to see him prove it.
((Yes I'm a boring nerdy train spotter. Fact.))
Billy Joe's last four opponents were unbeaten with a combined record of 71-0. Some going, especially for a "non"-puncher.