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Originally Posted by porkypara
Apart from winning the WBC HW title at a young age what ever did Tyson do?
In every hard fight he had he lost.
If someone stood up to him he crumbeled.
He was a classic school yard bully.loved to beat on smaller
blokes.
He never came back from defeat.
Quit when the going got tough.
TYSON IS THE MOST OVERRATED BOXER EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, but you haven't got a clue!
Tyson was an awesome fighter at his peak and he lit up a division in decline. Being Heavyweight Champion at such a young age is obviously a great achievement, but Tyson also made very good fighters look distinctly average when he was at his best. Simply put, Mike Tyson at his best is more than capable of beating any heavyweight throughout boxing history.
Everyone is aware that Tyson's desire diminished even before the Douglas fight, and i agree with many people when they say changing trainers etc didn't help Tyson, and he certainly had mental problems. However, he was still a very dangerous fighter, even at half the fighter he used to be when he got out of prison.
You say that every hard fight Tyson had he lost! That's a ridiculous comment in my opinion. He had hard fights against many good fighters and won i.e. Green, Tucker, Smith, Biggs, Ruddock... He also made hard fights on paper, look easy!
You say that if someone stood up to him he crumbled and you're baseing that theory on Tyson's latter years i take it i.e. the losses against Holyfield, and Lewis?
The reason i don't warrant a mention for either Williams or McBride is simply this; Tyson damaged his knee against Williams (maybe he'd have quit anyway, who knows???) and he'd lost interest completely by the time he fought McBride - two fighters who'd have hit the canvas from the breeze of one of Tyson's shots at his best. It's common knowledge that Tyson was fighting for the money more than ever at this stage in his career yet he still attracted the crowds and interest. Fascination that can only be equalled by Ali in my opinion. Fascination not attributed to an over rated fighter.
You go on to say that Tyson was a classic school yard bully, loved to beat on smaller blokes??? If you are referring to when he was actually in school (which wasn't very often by all accounts) i won't labour the point because by all accounts he was a bully. However, if you're referring to his boxing career i'd tend to disagree as many of the fighters he faced were much taller than him obviously. He didn't bully these fighters, he had that fear factor that had men beat before they got to the ring.
You say Tyson never came back from defeat... True he never avenged any losses, but he'd have beaten Douglas easily if there was to be an immediate re-match, Holyfield seemed the have a 'past his peak' Tyson's number, Lewis 'cemented his legacy' against a completely washed up Tyson who showed amazing courage, and again i won't dwell on Williams or McBride's achievements which of-course they can be proud of, but they must know themselves that they shouldn't put too much emphasis on beating Mike Tyson at that stage in his career, and that's not being unfair, that's just being honest.
OK, he quit when the going got tough, yes, against Williams, and McBride... like i've said he damaged his knee against Williams, and he did the right thing to quit against McBride because a fighter as limited as McBride should never have been seen beating on Mike Tyson, let alone putting him into retirment. It was a sad end to Tyson's career, but the most over rated boxer ever??? Absolutely not!
True there are fighters you'd certainly rate higher than Tyson but what Tyson achieved was still great and in my opinion he's one of the all time greats. Yes he regressed over the years and with obvious reason but tell me, how can you say he is the most over rated boxer ever??? it defies belief. If you have his career on DVD, try watching it and think again!
