Mark Breland had an outstanding jab. He's thought Wilder very well. It's a wicked weapon
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Mark Breland had an outstanding jab. He's thought Wilder very well. It's a wicked weapon
He pushes it a lot though for arcing right, Wilder is a lot of 1-2 and sticking his tongue out. Good scrap...3-1 Wilder...wont matterQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Wilder's never been past 4. That could start becoming a factor.
Wilder might have skinny legs but it's his skinny neck that worries me. For all he has the jab and the power Stiverne is starting to land and his chin is going to be checked. Come on Wilder.
The chin on Stiverne!
Regardless of how this ends.... we're seeing a more polished Wilder.
Considerably so.
Woah..Wilder did a dance! He needs to tighten up
Not looking good for Wilder. He needs to find a huge right hand.
Should be a very interesting 2nd half
Very much rooting for Wilder..... if only because I think Stiverne would be roadkill for Wlad.
Rings true for both i think wilder looks like a far shitier version of. WladQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Wilder showing a hell of a lot more than people were giving him credit for!
Stiverne can take a punch like.
Good round for Wilder. But he tired himself out throwing them punches
Holy christ does Stiverne have a chin!! That was nuts.
These two guys are horrible boxers. Can't believe this is a "championship" fight.
You earn credit. Wilder doing well but he is all trap shooting, looks a bit haggard late. I'd pay top dollar for Stiverne to step off to his right..just once ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I didn't think this would go the distance .. needless to say looks like it will.
Yea, haven't seen an effort to cut off the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliYou earn credit. Wilder doing well but he is all trap shooting, looks a bit haggard late. I'd pay top dollar for Stiverne to step off to his right..just once ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by arminRings true for both i think wilder looks like a far shitier version of. WladQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I still think Wlad-Stiverne would be a shitty fight and an easy night's work for Wlad.
And im saying wilder easy nights wirk as well lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by arminRings true for both i think wilder looks like a far shitier version of. WladQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I still think Wlad-Stiverne would be a shitty fight and an easy night's work for Wlad.
Wilder hurt end of round, Stiverne just realized his legs go both ways :-X
Time for either one to go balls out frankly
I'll be chanting "USA! USA!" When that fight happens :)Quote:
Originally Posted by arminAnd im saying wilder easy nights wirk as well lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by arminRings true for both i think wilder looks like a far shitier version of. WladQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I still think Wlad-Stiverne would be a shitty fight and an easy night's work for Wlad.
I don't get some of you guys criticism of Wilder. The guy had never been to the 5th round.... and now he's been 12 with one of the more durable HW's today. Cut the guy some slack!
Wilder is definitely falling apart here, think Stiverne is to tired to turn it around though.
Who had Wilder on points?
And new................
Great performance by Wilder. He did what he had to do
Stiverne isnt beating any decent boxers. Cant move his upper body, takes shot after shot as his defence is just stand in front with you gloves up. No foot work.
Ive said it before but hes just a heavyweight version of Berto.
Wilder just embarrassed him. Thats a fighter who is a relative novice.
Wilder should not fight Wlad...good composure though! Very rinse & repeat. Love to see Jennings v Wilder
failed football player champion of the world!Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
No chance NBC Haymon goes anywhere near jab and grab for a long time. It's going to be Wilder versus whoever on NBC for a long time. For the heavyweight championship of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Wilder-Fury anyone?
Enjoyable fight.
Stiverne did very well, this fight asks more questions than it answers for Wilder.
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Originally Posted by boyla
Oh hogwash!
Can Wilder take a shot? Check.
Can Wilder go a full 12 rounds? Check.
Can Wilder prevail against a higher level of opposition? Check.
Can Wilder show some improvement over his early comical wildness? Check.
Can Wilder maintain his focus after someone walks through his power shots? Check.
What else do you want?
I'm eating my words. I was very wrong about wilder. and i admit it.
he did great! he boxed very well, took hard shots and showed skill. impressive win!!!
very cool indeed. a american heavyweight champion!!!
Stiverne however disappointed! why did he allow wilder to cut left all night without cutting him off? why did he not throw a jab more or go to the body more in earlier rounds? why didnt he jump on wilder when he did land good shots? DUMB.
from what i saw tonight, look out Wlad~!!!! Klit vs Wilder!!!! excited about that one. tyson fury sucks, i say bypass that clown!
Wilder surprised me. He deserves credit. That was a sweet accurate jab and he split the guard plenty of times. His shots are still from the moon but Stiverne never once attempted to exploit it but that could have been because of that right coming back. I was expecting Stiverne to be a turtle early but maybe 36 caught up to him or he trained for one punch but Wilder did use nice movement and seemed to control the distance. I also thought Wilder would gas if this went late and he didn't. Guy deserves his props for that performance. Stiverne never looked right but that's because of what Wilder did just as much if not more then what Stiverne didn't do. Its the reason Stiverne did not and could not do it.
Wilder has really surprised me.
He now elevates 4th for me below Klitschko, Pulev and Povetkin. (Excluding David Haye who is unranked until he beats a relevant fighter again)
He has answered some chin issues. I thought he'd go at the first decent shot.
And his stamina was much better than anticipated. I kept thinking he was done but he got second wind time and again.
Bermane Stivernes workrate was atrocious. He really dropped the ball on this one, or maybe it was Wilder's credit for boxing better than most anticipated.
I can't believe this one went the distance! That was unthinkable!
Bermane has one of the hardest of chins for sure.
@Master, looks like your man wins AGAIN!
I wonder if I'll get one non-Klitschko fight correct this year :lol1:
I can't give Wilder credit for fighting a punk ass bitch who quit in the ring. Wilder was there to be had. Stiverne felt his power early and just quit. The man has no heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Miss less punches, fight some his own size, not get gassed half way through a round, keep his hands up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by boyla
Oh hogwash!
Can Wilder take a shot? Check.
Can Wilder go a full 12 rounds? Check.
Can Wilder prevail against a higher level of opposition? Check.
Can Wilder show some improvement over his early comical wildness? Check.
Can Wilder maintain his focus after someone walks through his power shots? Check.
What else do you want?
If a few of stivernes punches connected it would of been a different story tonight.
Fighters who are tall are always going to look awkward, and he has some power, but he did not look natural and was far from dominating.