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Originally Posted by AdamGB
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Ok, keep looking at someone else's punch bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Is signing to fight Wlads most dangerous opponent ducking anyone?
These guys;D
When you haven't got a valid answer, you give a half answer or no answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
One minute Fury dodges a British title fight to go for the World title, the next minute, he turns down an eliminator for a World Title to fight a non title fight. What's it to be ?
Anyway, reply if you want ,but I won't read it till the morning cos I'm going to bed. Can't be fucked with trying to squeeze some logic out of you for tonight.
what is it you do or used to do ? not trolling or trying to argue anything here, just interestedQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
I actually boxed 18 bouts and then became an official judge for a couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqwhat is it you do or used to do ? not trolling or trying to argue anything here, just interestedQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Lets be honest here , fury uses his size well , he has improved his jab and throws punches in combinations well.
But he hasn't been fighting big hitters , guys 6'5 + , or guys with fast hands.
He has been well matched , let him fight Wlad a wise experienced champion who has all of the above - speed - power - and he is a big guy also.
For me Wlad wins the first big shot he lands.
Its now a very intriguing match up isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
As much as you want to see how Fury handles Wlad and his strengths I'm sure you are also interested to see how Wlad copes with Fury's size, movement, combinations etc. He's going to be the first opponent Wlad has had he wont be able to manhandle and lean on and who has the stamina to work all night.
Ill be watching that chin of his as will Fury and Peter Fury as well. Iv never said he was Oliver McCall but with all Furys attributes Wlad will struggle and being forced to work and chase someone who can move Wlad will look old.
Over a dozen fights and an OFFICIAL judge? :o ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by rossI actually boxed 18 bouts and then became an official judge for a couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqwhat is it you do or used to do ? not trolling or trying to argue anything here, just interestedQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
I'm not sure if you're trying to give yourself more credibility or just discredit ABA judging qualifications? ;)
On a serious note why just a couple of years? Did you not enjoy it, was it other commitments?
I run a labour agency and my head is always buzzing with small things like workers not turning up, searching for new workers, trying to keep the work stream going etc. Come the end of the week I'm fatigued and I like to do fuck all and relax. The dinner boxing shows that I was judging on were on a Friday night which meant pissing around getting a tuxedo ready then sitting ringside with a liker in each hand counting the landed punches of each boxer not being able to have a drink and nigh on falling asleep while sat on your own. It was boring but I did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBOver a dozen fights and an OFFICIAL judge? :o ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by rossI actually boxed 18 bouts and then became an official judge for a couple of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqwhat is it you do or used to do ? not trolling or trying to argue anything here, just interestedQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
I'm not sure if you're trying to give yourself more credibility or just discredit ABA judging qualifications? ;)
On a serious note why just a couple of years? Did you not enjoy it, was it other commitments?
One night one of our boxers lost and he is popular on facebook. He went on facebook the next morning and basically called all the judges cunts. I saw it and explained what he didn't want to hear and took abuse from a couple of the other lads to boot.
Also, one of the coaches went on and did the same. Just looking for likes. Putting suh cheesy rubbish as "my blood sweat and tears, my boxers". He wasn't even the head coach! The actual head coach (my old coach, who asked me to become a judge with an eye on becoming a ref) agreed with all the decisions which also included his own grand daughter being out worked. There are three judges and all the decisions were unanimous.
I basically thought, fuck you I'm not wasting my time to just be the cunt everyone talks about on facebook the next day. Iv got more important things to do with my time than waste it on people who don't like the truth.
The pathetic thing is I offered my time to go up the club and talk them all through what a judge is looking for. The coach who went on faebook was due to come to my house that day to look at a job I wanted doing. He sheepishly text me to see if I still wanted him up. I did and when he came I collared him about it and asked him to explain to me what a scoring shot is and he said it has to be a punch that snaps the head back. I explained its a shot that blah blah blah, lands on the target area with the scoring part of the glove (knuckle) with effort (Not just a flicking jab). Like I said, my idea was to have everyone taught this up the club on a weekend then het the boxers sat round the ring with the clickers and score a few rounds of sparring. This way they know what they are supposed to be doing. They weren't interested and even now they are still criticising the judges.
The judges don't go criticising the coaches who cant coach people to win. No one wants to hear the truth but if they accepted it they could improve, instead its everyone else's fault and the boxers are the ones who end up suffering.
I thought that could be something to do with it, I've had fights where I felt I was on the wrong end of the decision, we were always taught to be humble, not to go over the top when one of us won and not to complain if we felt robbed, basically just not to run our mouths... Save that for the drive home, good or bad.
But the audience, sometimes even complete strangers, weren't quite as polite... I've been on shows were the audiences blood is up more than the fighters!
Sometimes coaches aren't much better. Saw a lad lose a close fight down to L.S.D. and his coach spent 20 minutes swearing his head off afterwards i the changing room with loads of junior boxers... Mind, this is the same coach who took a razor blade to one of his junior's eyes to get rid of a lump so he didn't get stopped. Had 10 year olds hammering diuretics ffs.
Wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
He's watched too many rocky films!
Its like a Burt Sugar syndrome. Where they have either never competed or they were just not good enough to compete but their ego just cant leave at at that in the sport so the next best thing is to try and produce fighters. With a few of the right spoken cliches and some cheerleading and some magical moments on the pads you have some brainwashed disciples hanging off your every word. Praise them up on facebook for their mates to see and they cant live without you.
Also, from what iv learned if you ask a trainer what is a judge looking for and they cant answer you with what a judge would tell you, then get the fuck out of that gym because they cant teach you haw to win and they will never listen to a judge to even help you win. They will not be told. It should really be mandatory with the coaches course. Its absolutely bonkers it isn't. Why isnt it? Why aren't the ABA trying to teach the coaches what the ABA want the refs to base their scoring on?