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It is a minor injury. Failure is not an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
"A minor injury." That tells me it won't be a long postponement . It also tells me he hasn't shit himself. And I don't see how Sky's lack of available PPV dates makes any difference. Wlad is the home fighter and the Champion. Sky came on board after the fight was announced , I'm not even sure his earnings are affected if Sky aren't involved. I might be wrong , but that's how I see it.
Good points.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I think Povetkin is to big a fork in the road. I was actually surprised to hear Wilder say last night that he needs to honour his mandatory when asked about Wlad. It was the he's still learning talk and maybe a year down the road stuff that causes the assumptions. He's basically admitting to being a paper champion. I think it would take a shit load of money to get the new and improved Povetkin to step aside for unification but if K-2 and Haymon bucked up he might get the best payday of his life for not fighting.
I also dont think Wilder wants to fight either. All this talk last night in the middle of the fight suggesting he fought the Frenchman to prepare for Povetkin was rubbish. They made the connection because the guy came forward. They left the part out about footwork and the fact that Povetkin does not come forward with his gloves taped to his face.
Oh and the WBC is involved. They live by the code that the end justifies the means. It is to their benefit financially beyond any reasonable doubt that Wilder remains champion. Oh I now that Jose's kid is on record saying that they wont stand in the way of unification but that conflicts with their rule that their champion cannot stay unified. Really the only one rule they do have is that they have no finite rule.They were going to order Stevenson to fight Kovalev 2 years ago but those sanctioning fees are just to good.
Lastly and I'm no lawyer but I cant see that kind of contract holding up in court or in effect prevent Fury from making a living. If it does exist then there would have to be a no escape clause preventing Wlad from fighting someone else prior to Tyson
can this actually be true?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
dont get me wrong i have seen some of the hurrendous shit that wlad gets away with in fights, they definately wont allow him to lose no matter what amount of cheating it takes, so i wouldnt put it past them
but can they actually get away with this if its true? isnt it fraud or something?
I also think something along the lines of this is happening but can it with Fury being mandatory for two of Klitschkos titles and the fights ordered?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44can this actually be true?Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
dont get me wrong i have seen some of the hurrendous shit that wlad gets away with in fights, they definately wont allow him to lose no matter what amount of cheating it takes, so i wouldnt put it past them
but can they actually get away with this if its true? isnt it fraud or something?
If it is the case this may be one of the shittiest things to happen in boxing in recent memory.:p
Sky are now toying with the idea of a forth ppv this year and getting this on for Nov 28th..... if Wlad is fit
I doubt that would happen. He's made all those Orgs a shit load of cash and all of them say they would not stand in the way of full unification. Fury could also get in on the cash train w/o throwing a punch. I see they are saying 1 month postponement. Cant see them pulling out a Wilder fight I bet he just fights Fury and then waits on Wilder. Its the belt his brother owned and most likely the only reason the guys not unified already since he was not going to fight Vitali. In a righteous world the guy holding all the other titles save 1 would be the mandatory for that 1 that he does not possess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Sky have no shame and people should not paying for their sports subscription. Jokers taking the piss.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Wider won't fight Klitschko yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitI doubt that would happen. He's made all those Orgs a shit load of cash and all of them say they would not stand in the way of full unification. Fury could also get in on the cash train w/o throwing a punch. I see they are saying 1 month postponement. Cant see them pulling out a Wilder fight I bet he just fights Fury and then waits on Wilder. Its the belt his brother owned and most likely the only reason the guys not unified already since he was not going to fight Vitali. In a righteous world the guy holding all the other titles save 1 would be the mandatory for that 1 that he does not possess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Indeed. His chatter after the fight suggests there is no chance. I'd be shocked if he fights Povetkin. I'd wager he finds a way out or someone will for him like the WBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel BoogustusWider won't fight Klitschko yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitI doubt that would happen. He's made all those Orgs a shit load of cash and all of them say they would not stand in the way of full unification. Fury could also get in on the cash train w/o throwing a punch. I see they are saying 1 month postponement. Cant see them pulling out a Wilder fight I bet he just fights Fury and then waits on Wilder. Its the belt his brother owned and most likely the only reason the guys not unified already since he was not going to fight Vitali. In a righteous world the guy holding all the other titles save 1 would be the mandatory for that 1 that he does not possess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Ftr, I think the guys pretty good and has a lot of natural ability but when you are in an historically weak division and in one of its weakest eras a guy like him should be going full out and decimating the field.
He has some natural ability, he gives it out better than he takes it. When pressured looks under pressure more than what he is and doesnt look composed at all. Gets hit with the jab FAR to easy for a world champion!!l
The American commentators are obviously giving him the benefit of the doubt but when you hear he is still learning and a work in progress they are maybe forgetting this isnt a 14 fight relative novice who stepped up against a fringe contender, its a current actual world champion with nearly 40 fights who looked for the weakest available ranked fighter to defend against.
Lthis is as good as Wilder gets im afraid.
Hopefully he gets past Povetkin and Wlad goes through with Tyson and then Tyson gets a huge unification and deserved pay back on all those cancelations that have cost him money in training camps and his fans in travel and accomodation costs.
Right now Gene Wilder is taken as seriously as the world heavyweight Champion as Deontay Wilder is!
Tyson has tweeted that he no longer needs to search for another fight in between as World champion Kick Boxer Rico Verhoven has agreed to have a proper behind closed doors bout with him on the same date as the scheduled Klit bout.
Why would he fight Deontay when he already has Tyson on the chopping block. Shut his mouth now instead later!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Before the fight we'll start a prayer vigil for Ross to make sure he gets through the rough times ahead. Poor sucker! If he starts playing 'What Does the Fox Say' over and over again we might have to do an intervention.
Are you ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedWhy would he fight Deontay when he already has Tyson on the chopping block. Shut his mouth now instead later!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Before the fight we'll start a prayer vigil for Ross to make sure he gets through the rough times ahead. Poor sucker! If he starts playing 'What Does the Fox Say' over and over again we might have to do an intervention.
Some real dead heads popping out of the woodwork lately. Even El Kabong has been silent. Strange times here at the mo.
Maybe you have been kayoed...
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Originally Posted by ross
this made me smile, as Tyson has as much credibility as a contender as Billy Fury! ;D;D
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Originally Posted by Primo CarneraQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
this made me smile, as Tyson has as much credibility as a contender as Billy Fury! ;D;D
Your probably right. I could see Haye and Klitschko shitting themselves against him as well!
Yep, in your head. The thing is mate, in order for people to believe you, you have to come up with some evidence. You can't just say "he shit himself" and we all say "oh, that's ok then," it doesn't work like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
this made me smile, as Tyson has as much credibility as a contender as Billy Fury! ;D;D
Your probably right. I could see Haye and Klitschko shitting themselves against him as well!
For example, I think you need to post a pic or video of Haye or Klit's skiddy pants to back up your claims.
Ps. While your at it , can you get pics or a vid of Fury's clean pants when he jibbed out of fighting Price, Pulev and the big Russian guy recently to prove that he never shit himself!
Tbf, I'm being ridiculous, but you started it! 😂😂😂
Apparently Wlad has been cleared to fight on 28th of November!!
SKY wont do a PPV on Nov 28th then Dec 12th. The AJ-Dillian fight has already sold out, it's not like they can move it, Wlad-Fury will happen next year (if it happens)
Ohh.. maybe spoke too soon. SKY are reporting it's on for the 28th. Wont be three PPVs though
Wladimir Klitschko vs Tyson Fury set for November 28 in Dusseldorf | Boxing News | Sky Sports
Premature speculation;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
It will be ppv when it happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Obviously SKY/Matchroom are prepared to shuffle shit around to make the dates work. Great.
AJ v Whyte is ppv now?
That's the thing that bothers me about Ross, I get the impression he believes everything he says especially about Tyson. If you question him about something he has said concerning Tyson his feelings get hurt. Then he lashes out at you in an irrational manner, it's like dealing with a teenage girl. You can usually get through to a teenage girl, eventually, that's not the case with Ross!Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraYep, in your head. The thing is mate, in order for people to believe you, you have to come up with some evidence. You can't just say "he shit himself" and we all say "oh, that's ok then," it doesn't work like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
this made me smile, as Tyson has as much credibility as a contender as Billy Fury! ;D;D
Your probably right. I could see Haye and Klitschko shitting themselves against him as well!
For example, I think you need to post a pic or video of Haye or Klit's skiddy pants to back up your claims.
Ps. While your at it , can you get pics or a vid of Fury's clean pants when he jibbed out of fighting Price, Pulev and the big Russian guy recently to prove that he never shit himself!
Tbf, I'm being ridiculous, but you started it! 😂😂😂
Keeping my fingers crossed that the Nov 28 date will be set........ and that Wlad doesn't suffer another (cough) "injury" between now and then.
BTW, why are we hearing these news from Fury, instead of Wlad himself... or least someone from Wlad's camp?
This is what I would expect Wlad to say:
"I have some good news... I have been cleared by my doctor to reschedule the fight for as soon as November 28th, and I am very much looking forward to going through with the fight and giving my fans what they expect."
"Oh..... and if you believe that.... I've got some oceanfront property in Kiev I'd like to sell you. The truth is I'm still searching for an elegant way to bow out of the fight."
Rohipnol?Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Sweets?
Puppies?
Why don't we wait until the fight is nearer , then we can talk about it , no need for the school yard insults.
Ross has shown stamina, endurance and focus in his firm belief that Fury will win. He will not be denied. Just hope Fury delivers for Ross sake.
I think it is now quite clear that Wlad did just need extra time to train and organise better sparring partners than Wach;D
If the doctor said he cant train with a torn calf muscle for a month wouldn't that mean that a month out means the training camp starts from scratch after this time out and not just move the fight a month later? Wlads excuse doesnt add up.
I think Wlad tried to delay the fight to mess with Tyson's head. Fury came across as ready, motivated and very hungry. His erratic display intimidated Wlad who thought a delay would knock the confidence that Tyson displayed.
I think a month is what it takes to launder the brown stain out of Wlad's trunks.
So let me get this right.its re-arranged for late November yeah? So Wlad never shit himself then, because it's been re-arranged at the soonest possible date, is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
And all this "Sky don't have any dates is bollocks, because Sky have got no say in the dates, just like I said, is that right?
Can't wait for the prices in Fight week to see Fury down to 6/4, right Ross? 😂
Can I help you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo let me get this right.its re-arranged for late November yeah? So Wlad never shit himself then, because it's been re-arranged at the soonest possible date, is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
And all this "Sky don't have any dates is bollocks, because Sky have got no say in the dates, just like I said, is that right?
Can't wait for the prices in Fight week to see Fury down to 6/4, right Ross? 😂
I hope someone can!
Please don't argue with Ross about Tyson Fury, he has a special relationship with flappy tits, so please be kind. ;) If you push him too hard he takes to stamping his feet, clinching his fists, and glaring at everyone around him. Oh yeah, he also gets real testy on this forum too! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rossCan I help you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo let me get this right.its re-arranged for late November yeah? So Wlad never shit himself then, because it's been re-arranged at the soonest possible date, is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
And all this "Sky don't have any dates is bollocks, because Sky have got no say in the dates, just like I said, is that right?
Can't wait for the prices in Fight week to see Fury down to 6/4, right Ross? 😂
I hope someone can!
Did I hurt your vagina?Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedPlease don't argue with Ross about Tyson Fury, he has a special relationship with flappy tits, so please be kind. ;) If you push him too hard he takes to stamping his feet, clinching his fists, and glaring at everyone around him. Oh yeah, he also gets real testy on this forum too! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rossCan I help you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo let me get this right.its re-arranged for late November yeah? So Wlad never shit himself then, because it's been re-arranged at the soonest possible date, is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
And all this "Sky don't have any dates is bollocks, because Sky have got no say in the dates, just like I said, is that right?
Can't wait for the prices in Fight week to see Fury down to 6/4, right Ross? 😂
I hope someone can!
Predictable little tool, aren't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDid I hurt your vagina?Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedPlease don't argue with Ross about Tyson Fury, he has a special relationship with flappy tits, so please be kind. ;) If you push him too hard he takes to stamping his feet, clinching his fists, and glaring at everyone around him. Oh yeah, he also gets real testy on this forum too! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rossCan I help you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo let me get this right.its re-arranged for late November yeah? So Wlad never shit himself then, because it's been re-arranged at the soonest possible date, is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
And all this "Sky don't have any dates is bollocks, because Sky have got no say in the dates, just like I said, is that right?
Can't wait for the prices in Fight week to see Fury down to 6/4, right Ross? 😂
I hope someone can!
Yes, you can help me actually. I was wondering what Tyson eats for Breakfast, and because your head is so far up his ass, perhaps you could tell me.😂😂😂😂😂😂Quote:
Originally Posted by rossCan I help you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo let me get this right.its re-arranged for late November yeah? So Wlad never shit himself then, because it's been re-arranged at the soonest possible date, is that right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
And all this "Sky don't have any dates is bollocks, because Sky have got no say in the dates, just like I said, is that right?
Can't wait for the prices in Fight week to see Fury down to 6/4, right Ross? 😂
I hope someone can!
Ps. Now don't get upset with all the "snide likes!" 😂😂😂😂