August 26, 1975 ~ 'Press Conference' ~ Ali Tries To Make Gorilla Out Of Joe Frazier

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

It must gnaw at the pit of one's stomach to hate someone who's so beloved and famous.

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Does not bother me at all, I live and let live, if you like him that is great. I do not like him and it feels great! Do what you want because I sure will. See how it works? There is no gnawing going on!;D
No cursing.;D No screaming.;D Just some very committed hating going on here.;D
Seems like it gnaws on you when someone dislikes your hero? Do not let it bother you, as you well know we are just a bunch of misguided boxing fans.:rolleyes:

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Must be sad to hate a man you've never met A man who doesn't even know you exist.
Is it really hate ? Or is it just plain old fashioned jealousy because he's the greatest Hw champ EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

Tuesday ~ August 26, 1975

Now that Smokin' Joe stood up, there was a concern that he would grab 'The Scum Bag' and
break his coward neck.

But Smokin' Joe just smiled.

Muhammad Ai, realizing he was safe, then started to send out flicking left-jabs aimed at
Smokin' Joe's forehead, and missing by a 1/2" inch.

Smokin' Joe again, never flinched.

Finally, Muhammad realized that he couldn't intimidate Smokin' Joe, so he put out his left-hand
and made a fist. He gently placed it on Smokin' Joe's forehead.

Smokin' Joe then started laughing while saying >
"Don't you fella's see how scared I am."

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Notice how EVERYONE in the pic is smiling even Joe
They know its just fun to hype the fight Your obsesses lol

After 10-minutes of Muhammad Ali acting like an 'Ass-Hole'.

Smokin' finally stood up, and raised his hands. With his palms facing outward
and his finger pointing upwards.

Smokin' Joe bellowed .............. "I give up. Please don't hurt me Clay."

Smokin Joe' added ................... "See. I'm shaking."

The Press Room erupted in laughs now.

Muhammad Ali then backed away, and paid no attention to Smokin' Joe and his remarks.

Muhammad then started 'gabbing' to the Press Corps, and continued with his 'Gorilla' remarks.

But now, Muhammad was not funny. He was now getting nowhere with his 'Third-Rate' act.

He became downright pathetic, as now, no one was laughing.

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Bill, please get a life.

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Bill, please get a life.

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Have you talked to the Mrs. lately. ......... ;)

You have to wait to see where this is going.

As you can see, Smokin' Joe was 'not' initially upset about the 'Gorilla' references.

~ Muhammad Ali Brings Stuffed Gorilla To Press Conference ~

The World Heavyweight Champion - Muhammad Ali brought along a large stuffed
Gorilla to the Press Conference at the 'Four Seasons' restaurant.

'The Scum Bag' had a small sign hanging around the Gorilla's neck. Written on the
sign was 'Joe Frazier'.

Muhammad Ali >
"I spar with the Gorilla. He doesn't punch back though. And he doesn't talk much
either. He's just a big stupid smelly Ape."

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

~ Muhammad Ali Brings Stuffed Gorilla To Press Conference ~

The World Heavyweight Champion - Muhammad Ali brought along a large stuffed
Gorilla to the Press Conference at the 'Four Seasons' restaurant.

'The Scum Bag' had a small sign hanging around the Gorilla's neck. Written on the
sign was 'Joe Frazier'.

Muhammad Ali >
"I spar with the Gorilla. He doesn't punch back though. And he doesn't talk much
either. He's just a big stupid smelly Ape."

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After a while. Muhammad Ali's 'schtick' was wearing thin, and the Press started to turn
away from his foolish behavior.

Now Smokin' Joe started to talk, and the Press turned their ears toward him.

This made 'The Scum Bag' mad, as nobody was listening to him.

Smokin' Joe was talking and behaving like a 'true' Sportsman to the Press.

Suddenly, Muhammad Ali made a straight 'Bee-Line' towards Joe Frazier, and walked through
the News people. Muhammad walked up close to Smokin' Joe and put his hands on Joe's
shoulders.

Then he pushed Joe backwards.

Not hard, but easy.

The Press was waiting for an 'all-out' brawl.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

It must gnaw at the pit of one's stomach to hate someone who's so beloved and famous.

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Does not bother me at all, I live and let live, if you like him that is great. I do not like him and it feels great! Do what you want because I sure will. See how it works? There is no gnawing going on!;D
No cursing.;D No screaming.;D Just some very committed hating going on here.;D
Seems like it gnaws on you when someone dislikes your hero? Do not let it bother you, as you well know we are just a bunch of misguided boxing fans.:rolleyes:

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Must be sad to hate a man you've never met A man who doesn't even know you exist.
Is it really hate ? Or is it just plain old fashioned jealousy because he's the greatest Hw champ EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sir, why would I ever want to meet that loud mouthed disrespectful prick? He is the last guy I would ever want to meet! Seriously, I can not think of any reason to meet him and I could not care less if, as you say, he knows I exist. An honest to God fact!
I know you must be feeling real bad for me right now. I am such a sad individual. Help me dude, please I need help! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by C.J.Rock

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

It must gnaw at the pit of one's stomach to hate someone who's so beloved and famous.

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Does not bother me at all, I live and let live, if you like him that is great. I do not like him and it feels great! Do what you want because I sure will. See how it works? There is no gnawing going on!;D
No cursing.;D No screaming.;D Just some very committed hating going on here.;D
Seems like it gnaws on you when someone dislikes your hero? Do not let it bother you, as you well know we are just a bunch of misguided boxing fans.:rolleyes:

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Must be sad to hate a man you've never met A man who doesn't even know you exist.
Is it really hate ? Or is it just plain old fashioned jealousy because he's the greatest Hw champ EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sir, why would I ever want to meet that loud mouthed disrespectful prick? He is the last guy I would ever want to meet! Seriously, I can not think of any reason to meet him and I could not care less if, as you say, he knows I exist. An honest to God fact!
I know you must be feeling real bad for me right now. I am such a sad individual. Help me dude, please I need help! :rolleyes:

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No disrespect intended @beenKOed but..... is he still a "loud-mouthed, disrespectful prick"?

He's now... and has been for quite awhile... an introspective, mild-mannered, insightful, respectful individual. And I don't attribute it to his condition. He's aged... and we all deserve the right and opportunity to better ourselves as we age. Maybe back then you wouldn't have had anything to say or want to hear from him. But now, as an elderly person, he may pleasantly surprise you.

Ali was no scum bag, you are the only scum bag Bill.

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Originally Posted by Master

Ali was no scum bag, you are the only scum bag Bill.

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That is not very nice. I don't remember bill saying anything about you personally

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

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Originally Posted by Master

Ali was no scum bag, you are the only scum bag Bill.

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That is not very nice. I don't remember bill saying anything about you personally

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He called the greatest a scum bag. Bill does not know Ali personally.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

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Originally Posted by Master

Ali was no scum bag, you are the only scum bag Bill.

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That is not very nice. I don't remember bill saying anything about you personally

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He called the greatest a scum bag. Bill does not know Ali personally.

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Ive heard he KNEW him personally from 1967-1974

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

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Originally Posted by Master

Ali was no scum bag, you are the only scum bag Bill.

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That is not very nice. I don't remember bill saying anything about you personally

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He called the greatest a scum bag. Bill does not know Ali personally.

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Ive heard he KNEW him personally from 1967-1974

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Was this before Bill married Monroe & starred in The Magnificent Seven ??? :horseshit:

After Muhammad Ali pushed Smokin' Joe

It would have been Smokin' Joe's right to punch 'The Scum Bag' in the face or break his neck.

But Joe Frazier calmly turned his back on Muhammad Ali, and then continued to talk to the Press.

Muhammad Ali was fuming, as he was being ignored. Then he started screaming > "Manila the Gorilla"

Oh he got in a few 'cheap laughs', but his childish behavior and buffoonery was that of a 'Class C'
comedian now.

After a few minutes of this, Smokin' Joe had enough. He then turned and walked right up to Muhammad Ali.

Smokin' Joe moved to within 2" of Muhammad Ali, and stared at him.

Then Joe Frazier stuck his chin out, and pointed to it, baiting Muhammad Ali to throw a punch at him.

Smokin' Joe then yelled .......... "C'mon Clay, do it."

Are these threads still on going then? I thought everyone got bored of them months ago and just let Bill get on with it all on his own?

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Are these threads still on going then? I thought everyone got bored of them months ago and just let Bill get on with it all on his own?

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You are still following this thread.

You have been 'exposed' Mr. Memphis.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

It must gnaw at the pit of one's stomach to hate someone who's so beloved and famous.

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Does not bother me at all, I live and let live, if you like him that is great. I do not like him and it feels great! Do what you want because I sure will. See how it works? There is no gnawing going on!;D
No cursing.;D No screaming.;D Just some very committed hating going on here.;D
Seems like it gnaws on you when someone dislikes your hero? Do not let it bother you, as you well know we are just a bunch of misguided boxing fans.:rolleyes:

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Must be sad to hate a man you've never met A man who doesn't even know you exist.
Is it really hate ? Or is it just plain old fashioned jealousy because he's the greatest Hw champ EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sir, why would I ever want to meet that loud mouthed disrespectful prick? He is the last guy I would ever want to meet! Seriously, I can not think of any reason to meet him and I could not care less if, as you say, he knows I exist. An honest to God fact!
I know you must be feeling real bad for me right now. I am such a sad individual. Help me dude, please I need help! :rolleyes:

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No disrespect intended @beenKOed but..... is he still a "loud-mouthed, disrespectful prick"?

He's now... and has been for quite awhile... an introspective, mild-mannered, insightful, respectful individual. And I don't attribute it to his condition. He's aged... and we all deserve the right and opportunity to better ourselves as we age. Maybe back then you wouldn't have had anything to say or want to hear from him. But now, as an elderly person, he may pleasantly surprise you.

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Look, I am going to make this simple for you. I respect Ali for being a great fighter, because he was! I also have a deep and abiding dislike for Ali, because he was a disrespect prick, especially to other black fighters! There are many boxing fans who think Ali does not need any forgiveness and there are many who have forgiven him. I am not one of those and I never will be. I cannot make it any plainer.

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by beenKOed

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

It must gnaw at the pit of one's stomach to hate someone who's so beloved and famous.

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Does not bother me at all, I live and let live, if you like him that is great. I do not like him and it feels great! Do what you want because I sure will. See how it works? There is no gnawing going on!;D
No cursing.;D No screaming.;D Just some very committed hating going on here.;D
Seems like it gnaws on you when someone dislikes your hero? Do not let it bother you, as you well know we are just a bunch of misguided boxing fans.:rolleyes:

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Must be sad to hate a man you've never met A man who doesn't even know you exist.
Is it really hate ? Or is it just plain old fashioned jealousy because he's the greatest Hw champ EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sir, why would I ever want to meet that loud mouthed disrespectful prick? He is the last guy I would ever want to meet! Seriously, I can not think of any reason to meet him and I could not care less if, as you say, he knows I exist. An honest to God fact!
I know you must be feeling real bad for me right now. I am such a sad individual. Help me dude, please I need help! :rolleyes:

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No disrespect intended @beenKOed but..... is he still a "loud-mouthed, disrespectful prick"?

He's now... and has been for quite awhile... an introspective, mild-mannered, insightful, respectful individual. And I don't attribute it to his condition. He's aged... and we all deserve the right and opportunity to better ourselves as we age. Maybe back then you wouldn't have had anything to say or want to hear from him. But now, as an elderly person, he may pleasantly surprise you.

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Look, I am going to make this simple for you. I respect Ali for being a great fighter, because he was! I also have a deep and abiding dislike for Ali, because he was a disrespect prick, especially to other black fighters! There are many boxing fans who think Ali does not need any forgiveness and there are many who have forgiven him. I am not one of those and I never will be. I cannot make it any plainer.

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Hey.... no skin off my back. Don't want you to get the impression I care one way or another whether you hate Ali or not. I merely stated some opinions. Hate and grudges are a heavy load to carry, especially throughout a lifetime. But believe me.... I don't lose any sleep over anything that's said on this forum, nor the opinions of its members.

Psyching yourself up before a match and telling yourself you are the greatest of all time is not a problem with me. We must look at our opponents like we are going to destroy them. This will help our performance. But the scumbag Muhammad Ali would do that endlessly for years and years even on the most mundane of interviews. I am the greatest I am the greatest of all time. All must bow to me I am the king of the world I am the king of the world. He was definitely a little juvenile a****** who couldn't leave that s*** alone for two seconds and he did that s*** from 1961 all the way up until I guess he couldn't speak anymore let's Saved by the mid 1990s. But I guarantee if you could get out a few words now he would still tell the interviewer I am the greatest of all time I am the greatest of all time. Never ever ever acknowledging Joe Lewis or Joe Frazier or Sonny Liston or George Foreman what Ken Norton who beat him three times. This guy was obsessed with constantly telling the world that he was the greatest that he was the greatest that he was the greatest of all time. This is why people hate him because someone who is truly the greatest never has to say it even one single time. If Muhammad Ali had been the greatest he would never have had to say it even one single time. I guarantee the great Joe Lewis never one time told anybody on an interview that he was the greatest of all time. And that is why people love Joe Lewis and that is why people hate Muhammad Ali. He dug his own grave and now he has to lie in it. Fittingly he cannot even utter another obnoxious word. Funny that bad karma, huh?

The Mouth who gave so many people so much pain and insults can no longer speak

It is spelt Joe Loius who was a different personality.

God knows what you would have made of Jack Johnson. :)

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It is spelt Joe Loius who was a different personality.

God knows what you would have made of Jack Johnson. :)

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Never was there a fighter named Joe Loius, ............talk about spelling bwahaha

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It is spelt Joe Loius who was a different personality.

God knows what you would have made of Jack Johnson. :)

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Never was there a fighter named Joe Loius, ............talk about spelling bwahaha

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Or joe lewis

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It is spelt Joe Loius who was a different personality.

God knows what you would have made of Jack Johnson. :)

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Never was there a fighter named Joe Loius, ............talk about spelling bwahaha

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Or joe lewis

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So two wrongs make a right?

Actually his full name was Joe Louis Barrow He fought under Joe Louis The Brown Bomber.
Oh & BTW Muhammad Ali would KO Louis in 8
I think Ali had far more right to call himself THE GREATEST of ALL TIME than that cowardly little cheating twit Mayweather has of calling himself TBE TBF maybe The Biggest Fake

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Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom

After Muhammad Ali pushed Smokin' Joe

It would have been Smokin' Joe's right to punch 'The Scum Bag' in the face or break his neck.

But Joe Frazier calmly turned his back on Muhammad Ali, and then continued to talk to the Press.

Muhammad Ali was fuming, as he was being ignored. Then he started screaming > "Manila the Gorilla"

Oh he got in a few 'cheap laughs', but his childish behavior and buffoonery was that of a 'Class C'
comedian now.

After a few minutes of this, Smokin' Joe had enough. He then turned and walked right up to Muhammad Ali.

Smokin' Joe moved to within 2" of Muhammad Ali, and stared at him.

Then Joe Frazier stuck his chin out, and pointed to it, baiting Muhammad Ali to throw a punch at him.

Smokin' Joe then yelled .......... "C'mon Clay, do it."

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Cassius Clay then 'balked' and backed away.

But Smokin' Joe followed up with another...... "C'mon Clay, do it."

Muhammad Ali was now embarrassed in front of the Press Corps.

Muhammad then stepped forward, and unleashed a flurry of fast punches aimed at Joe's chin.

The punches flew fast, all coming within 2" of Smokin' Joe's chin.

Smokin' Joe never flinched or blinked an eye.

After 60-Seconds, Muhammad Ali was done, and backed up 1-Step.

Smokin' Joe then leaned forward, and said out loud to Muhammad Ali ........ "Kiss my ass Clay."

Smokin' Joe then bellowed with a loud laugh, as all the Press Corps laughed with him.

Muhammad Ali was embarrassed and reduced to a 'Clown Like Figure'.

You know Bill should write a book of his fantasies...


He could title it Paxton's Tall Tales I bet it would rival Aesopp's Fables


What dya reckon Bill :)

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You know Bill should write a book of his fantasies...


He could title it Paxton's Tall Tales I bet it would rival Aesopp's Fables


What dya reckon Bill :)

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Everything here is printed in the Newspapers............ Fact.

'A Humanitarian'

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You know Bill should write a book of his fantasies...


He could title it Paxton's Tall Tales I bet it would rival Aesopp's Fables


What dya reckon Bill :)

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C.J. Rock,

Everything here is printed in the Newspapers............ Fact.

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Unfortunately not everything in newspapers is fact. :)

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You know Bill should write a book of his fantasies...


He could title it Paxton's Tall Tales I bet it would rival Aesopp's Fables


What dya reckon Bill :)

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C.J. Rock,

Everything here is printed in the Newspapers............ Fact.

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Unfortunately not everything in newspapers is fact. :)

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Lol I saw in the paper a woman in LA claims Michael Jacksons ghost was the father of her baby. Wonder if Bill believes that LOL

'Fact'

This Ass-Hole behaved like a Clown.

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No sportsmanship there. How could an athlete who won a gold medal for his country in the 1960 Olympics in Rome behave in such an unsportsmanlike manner?

Muhammad Ali made one mistake after another didn't he. He joined the Nation of Islam and said that all white people were the devil. It took him 20 years to realize how stupid that he was.on that. Then he went and started calling his fellow black American athletes derogatory, racial, inhuman and insulting things for years and years. This was not just pre fight hype

. Muhammad Ali: wrong on just about everything

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No sportsmanship there. How could an athlete who won a gold medal for his country in the 1960 Olympics in Rome behave in such an unsportsmanlike manner?

Muhammad Ali made one mistake after another didn't he. He joined the Nation of Islam and said that all white people were the devil. It took him 20 years to realize how stupid that he was.on that. Then he went and started calling his fellow black American athletes derogatory, racial, inhuman and insulting things for years and years. This was not just pre fight hype

. Muhammad Ali: wrong on just about everything

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Ali was not wrong about Vietnam, racism in USA and that he was the greatest heavyweight of all time. :)

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No sportsmanship there. How could an athlete who won a gold medal for his country in the 1960 Olympics in Rome behave in such an unsportsmanlike manner?

Muhammad Ali made one mistake after another didn't he. He joined the Nation of Islam and said that all white people were the devil. It took him 20 years to realize how stupid that he was.on that. Then he went and started calling his fellow black American athletes derogatory, racial, inhuman and insulting things for years and years. This was not just pre fight hype

. Muhammad Ali: wrong on just about everything

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Ali was not wrong about Vietnam, racism in USA and that he was the greatest heavyweight of all time. :)

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Cassius Clay

'I was correct about Vietnam, only by accident."

"I couldn't find that country on a map, even if you gave me directions and it's shape.

"And, I never liked Chinese people."

"Oh, my mistake. They all look a like to me."

Made up quotes again Bill does not make your point valid. :)

Muhammad Ali definitely told Howard Cosell at a boxing writers meeting in Poughkeepsie New York that "all them Chinese people look the same to me".

Oh but the WHITE man is the racist.

Ali said this....
Ali did that...
Grow up ffs!

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Ali said this....
Ali did that...
Grow up ffs!

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Growing up doesn't mean to forgive someone for willfully and consistently hurting peoples' feelings for years, WELL BEYOND THE POINT of simple, harmless ribbing.