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I agree Enzo wasn't quite world class, but Fensters point is that he isn't a physical wreck, he's still got all his faculties and is/was a capable offensive fighter tonight. I'll admit I gave Roy a shot because Enzo has just been sparked so badly, but that came against big men who could punch. Roy has no real punch left at 200 pounds, in hindsight this was a terrible fight.
Damn its sad to see roy like this. It was sad 10 years ago, its sad now.
He will have the shakes soon.
Fair enough that Roy had the Don Quixote thing going on, but I think that is enough knock out stoppages now. It cannot be good for you getting concussed as often as he has in the past 10 years.
That was absolutely brutal! Physically these two looked 25 yrs apart. Honestly though I'm glad it ended that way. Roy was walking on the tracks and needed to be anywhere BUT a ring last few years. He did well to trump up a decent 'big' event out of it but the end needed to be conclusive and final and thankfully not to some .500 never was fighter but at least a full on respected professional who has been to the top also. Top class by both afterwards.
Yes, it was a horrible shot that started it. As soon as it landed I said to myself 'He's gone', but Jones bravely got up, did a little jesting. However, he was probably on autopilot at that stage and then the next barrage really put his lights out. As Roy laid there unconscious with his legs wavering I wondered how someone so articulate and knowledgeable as Roy Jones Jr. could let it taper out to this. It was a sad sight and I felt a bit wrong that I was even watching. I see James Toney is back next month. As big a fan as I am, enough is enough with these guys. They need protecting from themselves as they are running on memory and heart alone at this stage.
I've sort of advocated RJJ continuing to box up till now, because I felt he was doing it more for the love and not the money, although that might not be the case.
But that finish was pretty sickening to watch and I think he needs to be saved from himself. Very sad to see.
I watched the fight earlier, that wasnt just a KO that was pretty fucking sickening, wasn't nice to watch.
I thought Enzo handled it really well, no celebrating he just went to his corner and watched with a concerned look on his face, I thought that was a nice touch from him.
I never stop drinking. Roy is an old man that has been beating "club fighters" (for want of a better term). Enzo, regardless of his current status, is a 35-year-old former "world" champion. His trainer was Gary Lockett, one of the brightest young trainers in the UK, all his fighters show a serious engine, they weren't turning up to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by oakleyno1
You been drinking man?! Enzo hasn't been world class for years ... He hasn't competed against world class either.?. Brahmer isn't up there... And I love the man!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
It was taking the utter piss to think a little old boy - compared with Enzo - could beat him (regardless of how great Roy once was).
Everyone, besides Tarver and Toney, admired Roy Jones Jnr because he was the best of our generation at the least.
In my eyes Roy is one of the ATG.
There are no "good" opponents for Roy at this stage. He is fighting himself and he can't win again.
I think he is genuinely in love with boxing and is trying to pick up "all the pennies" like the greats used to except he's getting hurt badly, not going the distance in a safe manner like Sugar Ray Robinson used to when he was far beyond his prime.
He has no conditioning at all and is unable to absorb punishment physically and the mental capabilties are lieing to him.
I hope someone who cares about him talks the truth and he listens, its beyond his time to stop.
Very sad to witness such a terrific competitor trying to recapture the past. Please stop Roy.
Ray
Jones must be embarrassed after this. He was sparked in an ugly way. He had been boxing him well, outjabbing him and landing the occasional straight right and uppercut too. I thought he was getting his rhythm when that happened. weird. Not really though.
When the guy delivering the knockout immediately runs back to his corner, kneels down and makes the sign of the cross you know it's a seriously bad knockout. Fuck that was brutal. That was the second really bad sparking Roy has had in Russia. Hopefully he doesn't get back in the ring again.