Amir Khan to fight Saul Alvarez for WBC world title in Las Vegas

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

Khan has 3 months left to invite Jesus in his life ...

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Having thought more about this one, I don't like it much anymore and almost agree with Brook:p

Putting aside what you think of the match and Canelo taking it, these guys are almost opposites, style vs substance. Khan is so fast that people get it confused with being skilled, Alvarez has plodding feet so people assume he is without them. Canelo is actually a considerably better boxer imo, I'd be shocked if Khan could do much in this one.

For some reason, I didn't even think about this being PPV. That makes it an even bigger joke.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

Bullsh*t move by Canelo, but par for the course. Even I didn't think Canelo would stoop this low. No disrespect to Khan, who's showing an industrial-sized pair of balls..... but c'mon. This breaks new ground for Canelo and Team Golden Boy. They're not even trying to disguise this under the semblance of a decent and fair confrontation.

The gravy train continues. A bloated record built on mostly has-beens and woefully undersized fighters. What a horrific farce! I've said it before and I'll say it again...... Canelo and JCC Jr. have a lot more in common than just their nationality.

Pathetic.

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Why bring JCC Jr. up? That makes no sense and literally all they have in common is their nationality.

Canelo's resume is fine, and he's 25 years old. Mayweather, Lara, Trout, Cotto and Kirkland is really elite competition and JCC has nothing close to that. You're discrediting any point you are attempting to make with that comparison.

Anyways, this fight kind of sucks. I would not have a problem with this if Canelo wasn't on the 2 fight a year schedule but it seems like that's the case. If this fight was occurring in late March or early April, I would have no problem. But it's not, it's in May on the premier day of the boxing calendar. Hopefully the September fight will more than make up for it.

This wouldn't be a big deal if he wasn't the Middleweight champion. He should be a Super Welter or a Middleweight but he shouldn't really be something in between but that is the reality of our current landscape and it did not start with Canelo Alvarez. It started with Mayweather (I think) and Canelo was once put at a disadvantage by this by having to go to 152. If this fight (Khan) is going to be made, I'm actually happy for this catchweight because if Canelo could come in at 160 then this would have a lot less excitement.

Fight isn't going to play out very well for Khan though. He still fights with way too much nervous energy and Canelo doesn't waste too much movement and he should be able to slice right through him. Can't see Khan moving Canelo backwards nor can I see him being able to keep the fight in the center of the ring and connect enough to win enough rounds to win this. I think Canelo will be installed at +550 or so and if it's lower I'll actually bet a favorite which I never do.

Like I said though, his past 5 opponents (excluding Angulo I guess) have been as solid as anyone in boxing's right? He would have an easier time getting a free pass if he didn't only fight twice a year.

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An old past his prime Mayweather embarrassed him Lara also beat him in my opinion and a lot of people also thought he got beat. Trout lost a very close fight and some feel he won and I really don't rate trout that much at all. An old way past his prime cotto lost a close fight again but got completely done over on the score cards that fight was a lot closer. So that just leaves Kirkland who he beat well and let's be honest kirklands shit so his resume is very suspect to say the least. Khan also only gets kod when he decides to stand and trade somthing he's not going to do against Canelo so should he box clever it should be a 9-3 10-2 type of fight for Khan cause Canelo is shite against people who can box with speed

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You can call him an old past his prime Mayweather or you could say he was the best fighter in the sport at the time. Either one works depending on what point you're trying to make.

24 hours later I hate it even more ;D Can't believe a few are buying into it. Now I get rooting for a hometown bwoy or Countryman but the 'Khan gets massive respect for this' has to goooo. Khan is a victim of his own star struck infatuation, he got so stuck on chasing a mega fight with Mayweather he got stuck in tunnel vision. A CW or division jump against stacked odds is one thing IF a guy does work and takes names in his already stacked division first. Khan has been in limbo and done what...Alexander? Respect comes when you give yourself the best possibility of victory and maximizing your best assets. When you do work and face existing challenges. Bloating to 155 lbs will cost him his cherished speed, that body will be worked on brutally and he might as well be tossing snowballs at a Canelo who will undoubtedly be 180 ish come fight night. What happened here is Khan answered the phone and was told he won the lottery, that's it. He saw event and cash that has eluded him..partially his own fault and is jumping the shark here. Then on the other end Canelo and Oscar hung up the phone and proceeded to roll on the floor laughing there arses off! Probably still there. Chris Algieri bulled Khan, he backed him throughout and rocked Khan at least once. Chris Algiei! Also..Canelo should be pointed at and laughed at for bringing cherry picking to a whole new level.

This is when boxing turns into Reality TV boxing with built in excuses, huge paydays for both and a wink and nod to each other. Don't drink the Kool aid...and its PPV :LOLATYOU: (Oscar) :spam: (Canelo) :thankyouthankyou::fight: (Khan)

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Having thought more about this one, I don't like it much anymore and almost agree with Brook:p

Putting aside what you think of the match and Canelo taking it, these guys are almost opposites, style vs substance. Khan is so fast that people get it confused with being skilled, Alvarez has plodding feet so people assume he is without them. Canelo is actually a considerably better boxer imo, I'd be shocked if Khan could do much in this one.

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I agree. At first I was thinking 'downright odd but something different', but the more I think of it it is a piss take mismatch. Canelo should be ashamed at this. Khan clearly has balls and dollar signs flashing around his head, but that's not enough to warrant what will likely be a nasty beat down. I don't like Khan and it is always funny seeing him lose, but this could be just downright cruel and that's a step too far. It's not right.

When I heard of this I thought , oh that's an interesting fight, then I remembered alvarez is the middleweight champion :S..... Pretty bad match up and I don't think it is going to go well for khan at all but hopefully canelo wins in style and hbo keep pushing for the golovkin alvarez fight afterwards..

I do like how khan refered to it as a fight for the 155lb title :S

You know who I really respect? Algeri because he fought pac for a career high payday. You know who else? Berto fighting mayweather for a career high payday. Those two went against the best and the odds were stacked against them but they took the fight anyways. Even though they did make a ton of money, and got exposure, they took the fight because they are tough, respectable fighters.

So don't go thinking khan is just about the money and exposure. He is for sure doing it because he is tough and wants to fight the best. I know this because he fought all of the top welters and cleaned them out and now fighting a middle is his only option left.

This thread is already 6 pages long. If you like the fight or not it's already brought major interest

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

You know who I really respect? Algeri because he fought pac for a career high payday. You know who else? Berto fighting mayweather for a career high payday. Those two went against the best and the odds were stacked against them but they took the fight anyways. Even though they did make a ton of money, and got exposure, they took the fight because they are tough, respectable fighters.

So don't go thinking khan is just about the money and exposure. He is for sure doing it because he is tough and wants to fight the best. I know this because he fought all of the top welters and cleaned them out and now fighting a middle is his only option left.

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Co-signed. Khan gets shitted on by a lot people. Now he decides stop calling out Mayweather and accepts a challenge in which the odds and physical advantages are stacked against him, he still gets heat for it.

Why take the Kell Brook fight if it's still going to be there anyway regardless of the outcome of this fight? You can't accuse him of ducking Brook either because he's fighting Canelo Fucking Alvarez instead.

#PrayForKhan

Someone needs to phone social services. This is no way for a father to treat his son. Big money beat down on the cards for Khan.

This will be a complete and utter wipe-out. If Khan makes it past round 1, it will be seen as an achievement. It's a freak match-up.

I almost think it's political. With Muslim Khan being set up to be hurt badly by Oscar and Golden Boy. Seeing Khan KO'd fully stretched out mid ring leaving a full body oily stain on the canvas would be great. What Khan represents is America's enemies who they are at war with.

I honestly don't like this fight at all. Really something weird is going on.

#PrayForKhan

I have a feeling Donald Trump will be the ring announcer ...

I try not to argue here... but a muslin may be wiped out of existence on 7 of May, may because he still has time to invite Jesus in his life

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Originally Posted by denilson200

#PrayForKhan

Someone needs to phone social services. This is no way for a father to treat his son. Big money beat down on the cards for Khan.

This will be a complete and utter wipe-out. If Khan makes it past round 1, it will be seen as an achievement. It's a freak match-up.

I almost think it's political. With Muslim Khan being set up to be hurt badly by Oscar and Golden Boy. Seeing Khan KO'd fully stretched out mid ring leaving a full body oily stain on the canvas would be great. What Khan represents is America's enemies who they are at war with.

I honestly don't like this fight at all. Really something weird is going on.

#PrayForKhan

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@denilson200, that's a bit bizarre but you are entitled to your opinion.

@denilson200

I wish you weren't entitled to breathe. Agree this is a shit fight though.

My friend is a big fan of both fighters, and I can't wait to hear his feeble attempts to justify this fight and how this shows Canelo beats GGG.

Hang in there GGG, you'll get your chance to claim your rightful spot as the Middleweight King ;D

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Originally Posted by powerpuncher

You know who I really respect? Algeri because he fought pac for a career high payday. You know who else? Berto fighting mayweather for a career high payday. Those two went against the best and the odds were stacked against them but they took the fight anyways. Even though they did make a ton of money, and got exposure, they took the fight because they are tough, respectable fighters.

So don't go thinking khan is just about the money and exposure. He is for sure doing it because he is tough and wants to fight the best. I know this because he fought all of the top welters and cleaned them out and now fighting a middle is his only option left.

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Co-signed. Khan gets shitted on by a lot people. Now he decides stop calling out Mayweather and accepts a challenge in which the odds and physical advantages are stacked against him, he still gets heat for it.

Why take the Kell Brook fight if it's still going to be there anyway regardless of the outcome of this fight? You can't accuse him of ducking Brook either because he's fighting Canelo Fucking Alvarez instead.

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I 100% understand why khan signed. He did it for the money. The exact reason he wanted the mayweather and pac fights. If he wanted to prove he was the best, he would fight a top welter

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You know who I really respect? Algeri because he fought pac for a career high payday. You know who else? Berto fighting mayweather for a career high payday. Those two went against the best and the odds were stacked against them but they took the fight anyways. Even though they did make a ton of money, and got exposure, they took the fight because they are tough, respectable fighters.

So don't go thinking khan is just about the money and exposure. He is for sure doing it because he is tough and wants to fight the best. I know this because he fought all of the top welters and cleaned them out and now fighting a middle is his only option left.

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Co-signed. Khan gets shitted on by a lot people. Now he decides stop calling out Mayweather and accepts a challenge in which the odds and physical advantages are stacked against him, he still gets heat for it.

Why take the Kell Brook fight if it's still going to be there anyway regardless of the outcome of this fight? You can't accuse him of ducking Brook either because he's fighting Canelo Fucking Alvarez instead.

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I 100% understand why khan signed. He did it for the money. The exact reason he wanted the mayweather and pac fights. If he wanted to prove he was the best, he would fight a top welter

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Yep, I agree. He wanted mayweather got strung along. He wanted Pacquiao, got strung along by arum. Canelo is 3rd biggest name out there as far as money for a single show goes.

Khan thinks he can replicate Laras performance with more flash and flurries. Without the lateral movement hes a sitting duck. Canelo wings and telegraphs his punch so the should be easy to spot mostly. But canelo caught trout and lara onec or twice. Personally I think khan will hang in the pocket too long and get clipped. At that point canelo either chases him around on jelly legs or he tries to fight canelo off and gets rag dolled like kirkland.

At least somebody in the Khan camp has a clear head. Here's Hunter the trainer:

"Amir is bigger than Floyd, longer and at this time, I know when he's in good shape, his tank is much fuller because of his age," Khan told Sky Sports News HQ. "But definitely that's the fight you want to look at and see where you can capitalise on, but also add a few edges to it that maybe Floyd didn't do that night because he had control of that fight from very early. Amir also possesses enough pop to keep him honest."

So all Khan has to do to win is box like Floyd Mayweather and maybe even add a few things that Floyd didn't need. I don't know why Khan never thought of it before. He could have boxed like Floyd against Garcia and won easily. Peterson as well. He definitely would have got a fight against Floyd or Manny if he'd just boxed like Floyd and won all the fights he's lost.

Cinco De Mayo, the T-Mobile arena, Las Vegas, just before the first bell. "You can win this fight easily Amir. Just go out there and box like Floyd. He won't be able to get near you."

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At least somebody in the Khan camp has a clear head. Here's Hunter the trainer:

"Amir is bigger than Floyd, longer and at this time, I know when he's in good shape, his tank is much fuller because of his age," Khan told Sky Sports News HQ. "But definitely that's the fight you want to look at and see where you can capitalise on, but also add a few edges to it that maybe Floyd didn't do that night because he had control of that fight from very early. Amir also possesses enough pop to keep him honest."

So all Khan has to do to win is box like Floyd Mayweather and maybe even add a few things that Floyd didn't need. I don't know why Khan never thought of it before. He could have boxed like Floyd against Garcia and won easily. Peterson as well. He definitely would have got a fight against Floyd or Manny if he'd just boxed like Floyd and won all the fights he's lost.

Cinco De Mayo, the T-Mobile arena, Las Vegas, just before the first bell. "You can win this fight easily Amir. Just go out there and box like Floyd. He won't be able to get near you."

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Fucks sake, thats really really pissed me off, why didn't some fucker tell me a few years ago that I could have made fame and fortune if just boxed like mayweather, fuck me, I'm stuck in a dead end 9 till 5 job now, its too late for me kids but just go out and be as good as floyd and you'll be fine

Actually I've just had a think about it, I'm 30 years old and never boxed in my life, someone get me Frank Bruno on the phone, I'll Mayweather that old fucker all night long, that'd be a good start to my profesional career

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Actually I've just had a think about it, I'm 30 years old and never boxed in my life, someone get me Frank Bruno on the phone, I'll Mayweather that old fucker all night long, that'd be a good start to my profesional career

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If only it was that simple I would love to batter Floyd himself but would have to come in with a baseball bat.

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Actually I've just had a think about it, I'm 30 years old and never boxed in my life, someone get me Frank Bruno on the phone, I'll Mayweather that old fucker all night long, that'd be a good start to my profesional career

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If only it was that simple I would love to batter Floyd himself but would have to come in with a baseball bat.

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I'm pulling out of the fight with Bruno, it just aint worth the training, I'd only spend the purse on beer hookers and cocaine and 3 days later I'd be back in my 9/5 job and no one would be none the wiser of my short lived boxing career

My god Frank you have escaped a serious ass whupping there

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Originally Posted by denilson200

#PrayForKhan

Someone needs to phone social services. This is no way for a father to treat his son. Big money beat down on the cards for Khan.

This will be a complete and utter wipe-out. If Khan makes it past round 1, it will be seen as an achievement. It's a freak match-up.

I almost think it's political. With Muslim Khan being set up to be hurt badly by Oscar and Golden Boy. Seeing Khan KO'd fully stretched out mid ring leaving a full body oily stain on the canvas would be great. What Khan represents is America's enemies who they are at war with.

I honestly don't like this fight at all. Really something weird is going on.

#PrayForKhan

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@denilson200, that's a bit bizarre but you are entitled to your opinion.

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What's bizarre to the sheep, is not going to bizarre to the wolf.

Great point and well worded as usual, @denilson200 .

Canelo has improved considerably since Mayweather, i reckon Khan is out of his mind taking this fight. Canelo by KO 2

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Canelo has improved considerably since Mayweather, i reckon Khan is out of his mind taking this fight. Canelo by KO 2

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It seems a suicide mission to make the most money.

But I thought the exact same thing when Mosley, Floyd and Pac man were due to fight Oscar De La Hoya and they pulled it off and became superstars.

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Canelo has improved considerably since Mayweather, i reckon Khan is out of his mind taking this fight. Canelo by KO 2

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It seems a suicide mission to make the most money.

But I thought the exact same thing when Mosley, Floyd and Pac man were due to fight Oscar De La Hoya and they pulled it off and became superstars.

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I actually think he's got a chance

I think khan has more of a chance than I thought fury did before the big klitorous

which probably means khan will get wiped out

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Canelo has improved considerably since Mayweather, i reckon Khan is out of his mind taking this fight. Canelo by KO 2

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It seems a suicide mission to make the most money.

But I thought the exact same thing when Mosley, Floyd and Pac man were due to fight Oscar De La Hoya and they pulled it off and became superstars.

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I actually think he's got a chance

I think khan has more of a chance than I thought fury did before the big klitorous

which probably means khan will get wiped out

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Canelo is young, hungry and at his peak big difference.

Britain's Amir Khan says he is expecting a "crazy" atmosphere when he meets Mexico's Saul Alvarez in Las Vegas.

Former light-welterweight world champion Khan, 29, has not fought since outpointing Chris Algieri in May 2015.

But he has made a jump of two weight divisions to set up a WBC world middleweight title on 7 May, ruling out a meeting with fellow Brit Kell Brook.

"I'm going to the lion's den," said Khan. "If I beat him, it will be one of the biggest upsets in boxing."

"It's Cinco de Mayo as well, the Mexican holiday, so it's going to be crazy," he added. "I think it's brave and I think it's the right thing to do."

Khan said he wanted to fight multiple world champion Floyd Mayweather and seven-weight world champion Manny Pacquiao, but neither fights happened.

He added: "I want to be in the big fights with the big names. Alvarez I think is probably the biggest name in boxing right now.

"At first, I thought he was too big for me, but when I studied a few tapes, I thought: 'You know what, I've got a good chance of beating him'."

'I'm the underdog'

Bolton's Khan has won 31 and lost three of his 34 professional fights but has not won a world title after losing to Lamont Peterson in 2011.

He last fought at the MGM Grand in December 2014, beating American Devon Alexander on a unanimous decision.

"I've fought in Las Vegas three times, but normally I'm top bill," Khan told BBC Sport. "This time I'm the underdog. That will push me on even more.

"People are going to be doubting me, people are thinking it'll be an easy fight for Canelo, but he'll have his hands full."

'A 50-50 fight'

Alvarez, nicknamed 'Canelo', has lost once and won 46 of his 48 fights. That defeat came against Mayweather in 2013.

The fight has been set at a catch-weight of 155lb, eight pounds more than Khan weighed in victory against American Algieri.

The usual limit for middleweight is 160lb, but Alvarez's last few fights have had the same weight stipulation.

"When I announced that it was going to be Alvarez, everyone was shocked," said Khan. "That's what makes this fight bigger because it was a shock to everyone.

"What's going to win the fight for me is my skills and my speed.

"I don't think I can out-power Canelo. The only way I can beat him is my speed, skill and my techniques. I think it's a 50-50 fight."

Amir Khan v Saul Alvarez: Briton stepping into 'lion's den' - BBC Sport

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@denilson200

I wish you weren't entitled to breathe. Agree this is a shit fight though.

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Juvenile way to call attention to yourself. Just say you agree and STFU.

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@denilson200

I wish you weren't entitled to breathe. Agree this is a shit fight though.

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Juvenile way to call attention to yourself. Just say you agree and STFU.

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I'm sorry for the PM about you being a nasty hypocrite, it hurts me to be called juvenile by such a leading authority on the matter. You do realize denilson is an open racist, thought you were against that sort of thing? Par for the course I suppose.

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@denilson200

I wish you weren't entitled to breathe. Agree this is a shit fight though.

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Juvenile way to call attention to yourself. Just say you agree and STFU.

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I'm sorry for the PM about you being a nasty hypocrite, it hurts me to be called juvenile by such a leading authority on the matter. You do realize denilson is an open racist, thought you were against that sort of thing? Par for the course I suppose.

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Denilson is entitled to his opinions. Wishing he wasn't entitled to breathe sounds like a high school insult at best. The type you utter when you want to be accepted into the cool crowd. And yes.... I was a juvenile once, so thanks for the "authority" tag. You want to be respected? Stop acting like such a tool and bullying other people.

For the record, I AM against racism and have told Denilson as much, without wishing he wasn't entitled to breathing.

THe cool crowd? It's an internet forum. I have no illusion that I will be "respected", and I'm not getting into some flame war with an idiot. Good day, sir.

p4p and tito please make peace.

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I have no illusion that I will be "respected"

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Then I recommend therapy.
Meanwhile, I recommend the "ignore" button.
It's the forum equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and going "la-la-la-la" really, really loud.

Sure, I've actually never used it before but if you keep addressing me and sending me nasty pm's over a valid objection I made, why not? All the best dude.

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Sure, I've actually never used it before but if you keep addressing me and sending me nasty pm's over a valid objection I made, why not? All the best dude.

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The first nasty PM was yours to me.
But no matter... I have no wish to perpetuate this trading of insults.
Consider the matter dropped.

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Canelo has improved considerably since Mayweather, i reckon Khan is out of his mind taking this fight. Canelo by KO 2

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It seems a suicide mission to make the most money.

But I thought the exact same thing when Mosley, Floyd and Pac man were due to fight Oscar De La Hoya and they pulled it off and became superstars.

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;D Only all three were considered top p4p fighters and were cleaning own divisions first. I did think Manny was in somewhat deep vs Oscar, then we saw the weigh in and Oscar looked an extra from 'The walking dead'.

Canelo picking on the little guys again.

Fight GGG.

GGG fight Ward.

Ward fight Kovalev.

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Canelo has improved considerably since Mayweather, i reckon Khan is out of his mind taking this fight. Canelo by KO 2

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It seems a suicide mission to make the most money.

But I thought the exact same thing when Mosley, Floyd and Pac man were due to fight Oscar De La Hoya and they pulled it off and became superstars.

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;D Only all three were considered top p4p fighters and were cleaning own divisions first. I did think Manny was in somewhat deep vs Oscar, then we saw the weigh in and Oscar looked an extra from 'The walking dead'.

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This. Also, too, I don't think Oscar was ever any better than Canelo is at 154. In this case, if anyone is more worn out it's Khan, and the natural size discrepancy is just as bad. Plus, Mosley was hard as nails and extremely difficult to hurt. If he was chinny DLH would have beaten him. Not seeing the parallels myself.