I look forward to this fight , a calculated power punching assassin v a young strong steel chinned hungry challenger.
I has classic written all over it, PPV or not I will be watching.
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I look forward to this fight , a calculated power punching assassin v a young strong steel chinned hungry challenger.
I has classic written all over it, PPV or not I will be watching.
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Originally Posted by Master
Will it be on ITV?Quote:
Originally Posted by g3org3
channel 5, best check your areal in plenty of time tho coz the signal can be rough on that channel
I still can't understand how anyone gives Jr a chance. Apart from being young and strong (he's an overrated puncher) what does he bring to the table?
He's not outboxing Golovkin, he was clueless against Billy Joe (350 amateur fights to 30?). Everytime he fights a hard bastard he gets into a punch-up, good luck beating Golovkin like that. And good luck throwing those uppercuts against GGG. As for that showboating bollocks, Golovkin will be on top of him before he's finished thinking about it.
I definitely think the old man sees this as his jump in class to upset Benn. However, he doesn't seem to realise that Golovkin would have whooped him and Benn.
eubank went into the saunders fight having fought absolutely no one and having only had a hand full of rounds
and he did give a good account of himself, I don't think you could say he was clueless, I haven't seen saunders struggle with anyone else
I reckon eubank would have a good chance of winning that fight now
I really don't think he will beat Golovkin tho
I said exactly the same thing just this morning, he may as well forget about the upercuts because they just aint landing against GGG, hopefully he will scrap the showboating shite as well and realise he is going to be is a serious scrap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I think it'll be a good fight but I can't see anything other than a pretty easy win for GGG
I do not think it will be easy but Junior has good stamina and can cause some problems with his fast hands.
I am not sure how he would do against those guys because GGG has not faced anyone in there class for me to tell how he would do. I just like this fight because this is the best opponent i think he has faced out side David maybe thats best he fought being champ as long as he has been.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I don't buy into this myth that Eubank beats everyone GGG has beat. What is that based on?
I don't think he beats Lemieux, Murray, Stevens, maybe not Geale, maybe not Matthew Macklin ffs!
And there's been a lot of missed "deadlines" for this fight to happen.
The hype machine has gone into overdrive yet again.
When I said classic , I was talking from a personal view.
GGG will likely punish Eubank Jr , that for me is classic :) however Jr has shown he is fearless so he has as much chance as anybody GGG has fought.
Golovkin-Eubank: Hearn Explains Why Deal is Not Finalized, Yet - Boxing News
I said in an earlier post about the missed deadlines and delays. Look at this logically, there can only be 1 reason this fight has not been finalized, and that is that team Eubank are holding it up , probably by asking too much money.
If you are the challenger, and you want , Arguably, one of the best World Champions out there to come to your home to fight you, then naturally you need to take the short end of the wedge, and quite considerably so.
Look at Brook v Vargas for example. Vargas is coming over, and is getting more than Brook. that's the stumbling block , but that's the way it is.
Now you might say "GGG is pricing himself out of it", well ok, maybe so, but who is to say what price he should or shouldn't demand to defend his titles in the challenger's own back yard? he has every right to demand whatever he wants, and if they can't agree that, move on. After all, HE IS THE CHAMPION!
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
David has beaten no one to right home about and Murray has fallen short of top guys he has fought but some how Sr can not beat those guys holy shit dude. I my underrated the comp some what but you just overrated them more then anything i have seen the mw division a waste land.
I believe Primo is saying Junior can not beat the guys GGG has fought not his dad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
David has beaten no one to right home about and Murray has fallen short of top guys he has fought but some how Sr can not beat those guys holy shit dude. I my underrated the comp some what but you just overrated them more then anything i have seen the mw division a waste land.
Him most people just call him jr so i was thinking if he called him by name he meant his dad. Anyhow if he is talking about the current Eubank then i say only David might be better. The thing is Eubanks kinda wild card and if his chin is same as his dad and does not dent going be a good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI believe Primo is saying Junior can not beat the guys GGG has fought not his dad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
David has beaten no one to right home about and Murray has fallen short of top guys he has fought but some how Sr can not beat those guys holy shit dude. I my underrated the comp some what but you just overrated them more then anything i have seen the mw division a waste land.
Thank you Master, I meant Eubank Jr. Apologies for not making me that clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140Him most people just call him jr so i was thinking if he called him by name he meant his dad. Anyhow if he is talking about the current Eubank then i say only David might be better. The thing is Eubanks kinda wild card and if his chin is same as his dad and does not dent going be a good fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI believe Primo is saying Junior can not beat the guys GGG has fought not his dad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
David has beaten no one to right home about and Murray has fallen short of top guys he has fought but some how Sr can not beat those guys holy shit dude. I my underrated the comp some what but you just overrated them more then anything i have seen the mw division a waste land.
I don't agree with only Lemieux beats him because Eubank Jr.has never fought any top guys . And when he did step up a level to fight Saunders , he spent half the fight not having a clue what to do and the other half swinging wildly, although I acknowledge that he is a supreme athlete.
I'm not particularly a Murray fan, but he was fighting his 3rd world title shot and at the time was seen as probably the next best MW out there.
Now the counter argument is "maybe he can do this" and "if he has his Dad's this , that or the other", well I'm sorry , but I'm basing my opinion on what we have actually seen rather than ifs, buts and maybes.
Kinda like passing your driving test in a Mini and going into a formula 1 race.
Well n what iv seen a completely green Eubank who had not faced British level journeymen in 8 rounders pushed the defending British, European and commonwealth champion to his hardest fight, including his WBO win over Lee. Eubank is the only man to have a judge make him the winner against Saunders. There is a big difference with how he lets his hands go now with reckless abandon to the fighter who tried pacing himself in his first 12 rounder against Saunders. Hes doing this against supposed big punchers all be it British level but the same British level fighters that Saunders had a hard time with.
Eubank went from the Saunders fight to facing Chudinov for the WBA interim whil Saunders faced someone with 27 losses!
Eubank is better and is still improving compared to the fighter we saw a couple of years ago.
Saunders is also better and more experienced now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
1. Nether have moved on as much as they should.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSaunders is also better and more experienced now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
2. Saunders winning a World title was a glorified "British & Irish dust up". No disrespect, but Lee was Hardly the greatest World Champion ever.
3. We're not talking about Eubank Jr. Beating Saunders, we're talking about him Beating Golovkin! LEVELS.
He has 2 fights since Eubank and still hasnt fought anyone as good as Eubank.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSaunders is also better and more experienced now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Same can be said for Eubank, hes had 5 fights but hasnt faced anyone as good as Saunders but Eubank has improved. He was the one who had the jump in class when they met.
Saunders hasnt improved as mch as Eubank has, how can he have with who hes fought? Eubank all he needed was to start throwing more punches sooner.
I actually believe both give Golovkin a difficult foght, the difference being you will never hear Eubank saying he will need a gun or Golovkn can beat him and Saunders on the same night. Eubank has belief, Saunders doesnt.
splitting hairs and missing the point as usual. They both haven't pushed on as they should and they both get beat. Frankly it doesn't matter if one goes the distance and one gets KO'd , getting beat is getting beat. Murray had a better pedigree at World level than either of them and he took GGG further than others, but that is because he is one tough fucker. Doesn't hide the fact the he got systematically beat up for the 10 or 11 rounds he was in there.
Saunders is a paper World Champion who has beaten nobody elite including Lee & Eubank, and for those who say Eubank has improved, it is easy to show improvement if you take on lesser quality opposition.
After fighting Saunders, he went in with Chudinov, which was a good move and good learning fight, and since then his level of opposition has gone backwards (no disrespect to Blackwell & Doran ) .
They have both turned down opportunities to fight Champions and better level fighters. and I keep repeating, This fight has not been made yet.
Out of curiosity, I wonder what we all think Eubank Jr's Purse should be for this fight and what GGG's should be , because I have heard some CRAZY rumours.
I'll take reality over belief (delusion).
Billy Joe would get slaughtered by Golovkin too. That's Jr's best and only world-class opponent, however, he hadn't proven to be world-class when he beat Jr.
I just don't get this Jr hype. Is it the badman face expressions? I'm pretty sure if he was called Joe Soap nobody would be touting him as a future champ. He'd just be a tough, tear-up merchant with potential.
Eubank will win easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanWhy does that not surprise me :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by denilson200I don't see anything special in GGG. I see Eubank Jr winning this fight. In fact Triple G could get seriously hurt in this fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Batman
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Originally Posted by MasterSaunders is also better and more experienced now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Saunders is better and more experienced now but Jr is miles better and more experienced now
I reckon so anyway, Eubank had fought nobody before saunders
and saunders was a lot closer to what he is now
Well Golovkin has said that Jr must have lost his pen because they are stalling on signing the contract, they are threatening to pull the fight and arrange one in America in September
Yep and Eubank countered that they had not had the contract back yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
If they have threatened to organise another fight maybe they are nervous that a young tough brawler with a high work rate is calling them out and wants the fight?;)
Yeah alright, you keep believing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYep and Eubank countered that they had not had the contract back yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
If they have threatened to organise another fight maybe they are nervous that a young tough brawler with a high work rate is calling them out and wants the fight?;)
One small flaw in your theory, if team GGG were "nervous", why would he post on social media about Eubank losing his pen?
Surely he wouldn't want to antagonise such a scary fucker like Eubank Jr. If he was feeling a bit nervy? 😂
Here's another theory. How about GGG is pissed off about some loud mouthed father and son team using his name to keep them relevant and when it gets down to the nitty gritty, they shit themselves and realise they're out of their depth?
The champion, the most feared fighter in the world, agreed to come to the challengers backyard. It was confirmed by the challengers own promoter that the fight is signed from the champions side, it's just up to his own fighter to sign.
GGG has now bottled it.
:D
Who you going to believe GGG or Junior?
Obviously GGG who has faced everyone.
its a strange part of the world that tho where GGGs from
what? the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
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Originally Posted by Masterwhat? the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
That is becoming more and more a fucked up part of the world yes
I tend to agree with him, maybe not in the same context as he intended but the US is certainly a strange place from what I know of itQuote:
Originally Posted by Masterwhat? the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
I have this vision of E snr running around to GGG's side of the ring grabbing their towel and throwing it in to save GGG from too much punishment,so he can have a natter to the cameras about how he saved them from jnr. ;D
I cant believe its not a wind up but just read that Golovkin v Brook has just been made. Is that Hearns version of Canelo v Khan?;D
Maybe @Fenster he is now facing someone two weights smaller;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Hahaha!
Yeah put whatever spin you want on it Ross, but haven't I been saying he hadn't signed the contract? I am so pleased , because this shows:Quote:
Originally Posted by rossMaybe @Fenster he is now facing someone two weights smaller;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Hahaha!
a. Team Eubank are a bunch of attention seeking , bullshitting, lying wankers.
b. Kell Brook has shown a pair of bollocks finally and in some style! Ok, the money helps and it's a win-win because he doesn't lose his title, but still Eubank clearly didn't want it!
c. We don't have to go through 3 months of absolute horseshit as people start to believe he would've had a chance. EVEN HE KNOWS HE STOOD NO FUCKING CHANCE!!!
d. Now Hearn has finally seen what these cunts are about , he's tucked them up big time! ;D;D;D:cool::cool:
The only problem I see now is that BJS v Eubank Jr. Will be back on, neither of them have got anywhere to go.
can we start saying the Jr has now ducked all 3 MW champs?
just playing devils advocate like, apparently the contract was there and it wasn't signed
Correctamundo!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5AuMgE6Y7oI
Telephone interview by Kugan Cassius with Eddie Hearn. So,
1. Eubank Sr. Wanted control over everything and didn't want the same PPV structure as Froch,Joshua , Brook etc.
2. He wanted Tickets to be DOUBLE the price that the Joshua v Brezeale tickets were.
3. He wanted to choose the undercard and what they were paid.
4. He wanted to choose the commentators
5. Jr. Would've earned "Millions"
6. Brook took the fight with all the same terms in a heartbeat.
7. Hearn "isn't allowed" to talk to Eubank Jr. He has to talk to Sr.
You couldn't make this shit up. LAUGHABLE!
Again, believe everything Hearn tells you.
I think he wanted this from the start as he cannot make a big money fight for Brook.
As for having more expensive tickets than for the Joshua fight, you would be talking about one of the best pound for pound fighters fighting here. Joshua isnt even the best in his weight in Britain!;D
You are ignoring the fact that it was Eubank Sr who wanted to double the ticket price. Not GGG or his team, unlike the helium filled heads of Cwis and Cwis Jr, they live and work on planet earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross