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There is no Brexit. It is a pantomime.
http://youtu.be/EJFRr6AV9i4Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Oooooh boy...Cameron and May at the start of this did not age well....England are being led by lying liars.
Well done @El Kabong, I haven't seen this, Sargon of Akkad is brilliant, I always watch his videos
Completely off topic but have you ever seen this? you can see the bloke literally fucking crumble live on stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTFL0wKmsC0
That was interesting, basically May is bending over and saying take me Europe any way you want.
Not good and was expecting a better deal. No wonder the Brexiteers are leaving one by one.
Not only that, but Cameron had stacked the deck BEFORE Brexit was even voted on, he tried his damnedest to sway voters to choose Remain...even going so far as to tell then President Obama in so many words 'Put England in the back of the queue old chap. Tell us how we will be corrected like the bad nation we are if we vote Brexit!'Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
From my perspective as an American but also as someone who follows politics....I would imagine that anyone and everyone would be upset about how this has been handled. On one hand you've got the Brexit folks who obviously got the numbers out to vote and "won" the referendum and now the politicians are saying "Ummm yyyyyeah so you voted for Brexit, BUT you didn't say what TYPE of Brexit and so we the RULING CLASS will dictate those terms to you peons and we'll slow walk it"....then you've got the Remainers of whom I'd imagine a few would be looking at this and saying to themselves "Well fuck, if we won the referendum and the RULING CLASS up and changed their minds and said 'Nah we're doing Brexit regardless of what you think' then we'd be upset as well"
The ruling class isn't abiding by their own rules, they said "This will be the 1 and only Brexit vote, if enough people vote Brexit then we'll leave the EU no ifs ands or buts" and they are doing exactly NOT that. I know politicians lie and all, but to lie is one thing, to undermine the VOTE, to not listen to the voice of the people......it's a travesty and I must say, yall are really handling yourselves with some class because if something similar was to happen in America it would be not pretty at all I'm talking armed revolt, tarring and feathering, pitchforks and torches kind of shit.
The faith in government altogether must be a bit shaken right now. Who decided that this was going to be a good idea? No matter how you voted, to see the government blatantly ignore the vote has to be unnerving. I am sincerely wishing the best for you guys, I don't think anything too horrible is going to happen, but you do start wondering "Why"...."Why won't they honor the vote?"....methinks there's a patina of wanting to save the EU (which without England is pretty fucked and others will be joining suit) but there's something more sinister bubbling under the surface IMO.
Brexit poll: voters turn to far right, Boris Johnson — and Remain
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...main-sh5n8vchq
Theresa May is facing an unprecedented political crisis, according to a new poll that reveals voters are implacably opposed to her Brexit plan and are prepared to turn to Ukip or parties of the far right.
In a survey that will spark unease in Downing Street, the YouGov poll found that the public believes Boris Johnson, the former foreign secretary, is better placed to negotiate with Brussels and lead the Conservatives into the next election.
It highlights how voters are polarising, with growing numbers alienated from the two main parties. About 38% would vote for a new party on the right that was committed to Brexit, while 24% are prepared to support an explicitly far-right anti-immigrant, anti-Islam party.
Well this should give UKIP an opportunity to grow.
If there was a proper Brexit there would be no need for a UKIP so May must have devised a poor deal. This has been a total waste of 2 years negotiating with Europe.
May was handed all the political ammo she needed to get a Brexit deal done, but apparently that's not what she wants and she was a Remainer anyway ergo the massive distrust of her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Theresa May is going to ruin the Tories....can't say it's much of a loss though.
Worst thing is Labour should be massively ahead in the polls but are bickering themselves about Brexit and anti-Semitism in their party. Really letting people down with no effective opposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMay was handed all the political ammo she needed to get a Brexit deal done, but apparently that's not what she wants and she was a Remainer anyway ergo the massive distrust of her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Theresa May is going to ruin the Tories....can't say it's much of a loss though.
UKIP are actually rebranding themselves and doing quite a good job of it, they are who would most likely get my vote at the minuteQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Thanks for your expert analysis Jessie 'Skeeter' Paxman. Kirsty Wark and Evan Davis' jobs are safe it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMay was handed all the political ammo she needed to get a Brexit deal done, but apparently that's not what she wants and she was a Remainer anyway ergo the massive distrust of her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Theresa May is going to ruin the Tories....can't say it's much of a loss though.
Ooof weak...try again BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzThanks for your expert analysis Jessie 'Skeeter' Paxman. Kirsty Wark and Evan Davis' jobs are safe it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongMay was handed all the political ammo she needed to get a Brexit deal done, but apparently that's not what she wants and she was a Remainer anyway ergo the massive distrust of her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Theresa May is going to ruin the Tories....can't say it's much of a loss though.
Am I right in thinking that after voting to exit, a law says you are still in?
We are still in but triggered article 50 so will leave and negotiating the divorce settlement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It will happen because if it does not the politicians have lied to us.
And politicians would lie to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWe are still in but triggered article 50 so will leave and negotiating the divorce settlement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It will happen because if it does not the politicians have lied to us.
If the politicians do not provide a Brexit of any kind, soft or hard, then voting has no value and it would undermine everything they stand for and would make democracy a sham.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaAnd politicians would lie to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWe are still in but triggered article 50 so will leave and negotiating the divorce settlement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It will happen because if it does not the politicians have lied to us.
...which is one of the reasons why some Americans (and others) are paying close attention to this issue in your politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
That is why I believe it will be delivered, even with a remainer prime minister.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong...which is one of the reasons why some Americans (and others) are paying close attention to this issue in your politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
You don't belive in democracy though do you Lyle? You think it is the tyranny of the many when it suits you and an overwhelming mandate when it suits you.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong...which is one of the reasons why some Americans (and others) are paying close attention to this issue in your politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Much like your muppet of a President that calls the EU one of Americas foes one day and then great friends on another day.
I could never be so inconsistent, ask my Bro Brock and he will back me up
😜
Well let's see here....I believe in the democratic act of voting. I do NOT believe in Democracy as a form of government as it is mob rule. The United States is NOT a Democracy it is a Constitutional Republic....meaning we have a rule book/guidelines The Constitution and a Republic is a form of government where people elect representatives to govern in their best interests all while obeying The Constitution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
I'd say it depends on the specific situations, but you have examples of where I've said or implied this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
He got his deal done didn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
OK then...takes all types.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-...-used-12240125Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
PARODYQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanzhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-...-used-12240125Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
par·o·dy
ˈperədē/Submit
noun
1.
an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.
"the movie is a parody of the horror genre"
synonyms: satire, burlesque, lampoon, pastiche, caricature, imitation, mockery; More
verb
1.
produce a humorously exaggerated imitation of (a writer, artist, or genre).
"his specialty was parodying schoolgirl fiction"
I do not think Barry found the parody very funny.
The internet is a cruel mistress @MasterQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Have ya had a look at the actual twitter page? Or did you and Beanz read that article and accept the premise that "Yes...I too shall be offended"
Actual tweet from the Barry Stanton twitter....in a response to "What is your policy on homosexuals" Barry says "send em back wherever they all came from. france i assume"......wow such blatant racism :vd:
BWAHAAHAHA! Sacha could not invent you in a month of SundaysQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongPARODYQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanzhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-...-used-12240125Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
par·o·dy
ˈperədē/Submit
noun
1.
an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.
"the movie is a parody of the horror genre"
synonyms: satire, burlesque, lampoon, pastiche, caricature, imitation, mockery; More
verb
1.
produce a humorously exaggerated imitation of (a writer, artist, or genre).
"his specialty was parodying schoolgirl fiction"
OK? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Lyle you come across like the American version of Barry. Except you are real. Your heart is in the right place so it doesn't matter but the double irony of you believing you had to explain a very British concept like Parody in response to nothing more than a link explaining the random bloke story whose Image was hijacked is very funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOK? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
PJW, infowars all this stuff you post is so po-faced and humourless that it's nice to see at least you can laugh at yourself.
"Your heart is in the right place" he told the person he repeatedly called a nazi racistQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzLyle you come across like the American version of Barry. Except you are real. Your heart is in the right place so it doesn't matter but the double irony of you believing you had to explain a very British concept like Parody in response to nothing more than a link explaining the random bloke story whose Image was hijacked is very funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOK? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
PJW, infowars all this stuff you post is so po-faced and humourless that it's nice to see at least you can laugh at yourself.
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong"Your heart is in the right place" he told the person he repeatedly called a nazi racistQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzLyle you come across like the American version of Barry. Except you are real. Your heart is in the right place so it doesn't matter but the double irony of you believing you had to explain a very British concept like Parody in response to nothing more than a link explaining the random bloke story whose Image was hijacked is very funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOK? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
PJW, infowars all this stuff you post is so po-faced and humourless that it's nice to see at least you can laugh at yourself.
Actually I am pretty sure it was more like me telling you to stop defending Nazi Racists but maybe someone else hijacked your account and convinced me otherwise. If that is true than I apologise.:kissasskc4::lyle:
Your demand of "nazi racists" far outweighs the supply of actual nazis and I'd figure that given your personal background you wouldn't be so quick to label every person right of center a "Nazi"....keep your apology I sure as shit don't want itQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong"Your heart is in the right place" he told the person he repeatedly called a nazi racistQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzLyle you come across like the American version of Barry. Except you are real. Your heart is in the right place so it doesn't matter but the double irony of you believing you had to explain a very British concept like Parody in response to nothing more than a link explaining the random bloke story whose Image was hijacked is very funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOK? :dontknow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
PJW, infowars all this stuff you post is so po-faced and humourless that it's nice to see at least you can laugh at yourself.
Actually I am pretty sure it was more like me telling you to stop defending Nazi Racists but maybe someone else hijacked your account and convinced me otherwise. If that is true than I apologise.:kissasskc4::lyle:
Lyle it would suit you to be able to say that I go around calling people Nazis but that isn't actually what happens at all. It's just your way of shutting down any kind of discussion and carrying on living in your dream world where anybody who does not agree with you is magically transformed into the most extreme caricature of what you fear most. You are not very woke.
The cognitive dissonance is really strong with youQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Democratically we voted to leave Europe , it doesn't get any simpler.
Not sure why we have a useless remainer in May running the show.
Europe is done and the sooner we leave the better.
I think they are sabotaging Brexit in the hope that we stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Yes you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI think they are sabotaging Brexit in the hope that we stay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I told u the love wouldn’t last longQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThe cognitive dissonance is really strong with youQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
PS good on U brits for the Brexit vote.
Because even she does not represent a majority. The leavers have failed collectively to step up to the plate. The fact that it has been left to remainers speaks volumes. It's a joke. People moaning that the EU does not represent them when with a form of PR it is in many ways much more representative. Which is why UKIP can get seats for MEPS but not in Parliament.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
We are going to jeopardise hundreds of thousands of existing, not made up jobs, all for pie in the sky dreams of a bunch of millionaire tax dodging tories most of whom have dual passports and would watch Britain sink without blinking from their villas in Europe.
You can see from the most vociferous voices here, the meddling Americans that most of them too would like to see Britain sink too.
You wait Trump and China will end up doing much better deals with the EU than us because they hate our dominance in several sectors. It's a massive stitch up that they have sold as the opposite.
Putin and Trump are rubbing their hands in glee at how easy it has been.
This is classic, ha ha ha.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzBecause even she does not represent a majority. The leavers have failed collectively to step up to the plate. The fact that it has been left to remainers speaks volumes. It's a joke. People moaning that the EU does not represent them when with a form of PR it is in many ways much more representative. Which is why UKIP can get seats for MEPS but not in Parliament.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
We are going to jeopardise hundreds of thousands of existing, not made up jobs, all for pie in the sky dreams of a bunch of millionaire tax dodging tories most of whom have dual passports and would watch Britain sink without blinking from their villas in Europe.
You can see from the most vociferous voices here, the meddling Americans that most of them too would like to see Britain sink too.
You wait Trump and China will end up doing much better deals with the EU than us because they hate our dominance in several sectors. It's a massive stitch up that they have sold as the opposite.
Putin and Trump are rubbing their hands in glee at how easy it has been.