Wlad for me is shot , but if he can hit you he has a chance. Fury was all wrong for an old Wlad , lets see if Joshua can not get hit and get to Wlad first.
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Wlad for me is shot , but if he can hit you he has a chance. Fury was all wrong for an old Wlad , lets see if Joshua can not get hit and get to Wlad first.
This is a really intriguing but fit me with all the intangible involved.
Anthony Joshua MBE is set to defend his IBF World Heavyweight title against Wladimir Klitschko. At the undisputed and undefeated home of UK boxing. On Saturday, 29th April 2017, Anthony Joshua puts his crown on the line for the second time and fights. His third American in a row having destroyed Charles Martin inside two rounds. To rip the title from the St Louis man in April in London and then stopping Dominic Breazeale. In the seventh round at the same venue in June. Extending his unbeaten run in the paid ranks to 17 wins, all inside the distance.
Joshua is currently 18-0.
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First undercard bout confirmed as Roach-trained Quigg heads to Wembley
Good test for Quigg this i think roach will tell him to let his hands go and do what he does best, those relentless attacks :cool:
Joshua v Klitschko: First undercard bout confirmed as Roach-trained Quigg heads to Wembley | World Boxing News
Love Quigg when he is in the zone and unloading. Think the best is yet to come from him.
I've heard rumors that Wlad has looked poor in training. I hope it's just a ploy to catch Joshua off guard.
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Don't mean to be a cynical bastard but i'm waiting day by day for this to be called off, Wlad to pull out. For a geezer with Wlad's poise/stature this seems like an out of character risk - away fighter, underdog, inactivity, terrible last performance etc. just can't imagine that he'd risk being remembered for getting stretched out in Wembley.
Why is Wlad taking the fight? Those sparring sessions must be vital. Witnesses said - "Joshua did well for a novice," "Joshua learned a lot," "Joshua was competitive for a few rounds" probably translates to Joshua got whooped.
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Out of character risk?
When Wlad is down and out, he's not opposed to taking the biggest risk out there to prove himself. When he fought Sam Peter it was thought of at the time to be the toughest match and most dangerous for him to take.
Maybe he's cautious IN the ring, but making fights? Dude has always at least attempted to fight the toughest out there for him to fight.
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It's the last roll of the dice for Wlad and i think win or lose he retires, it's THE only Massive and last payday he can get in one of the biggest Heavyweight fights the world has seen in years and years crowd wise.
Like him or Loathe him he will go down in Heavyweight history due to the length of his reign and number of fights regardless if a good amount of opponents were not worth a wank compared to proper Heavyweights from years gone bye.
Would love to know what AJ and Wlad are getting paid for this as it's gotta be an insane amount of money that surely will surpass what Froch and Groves got paid in either of their fights.
Huge fight but more importantly a Brilliant matchup as we know AJ is gonna come to KO him unlike Fury who used mind games and oddball Boxing tactics in an absolute borefest. The Media Hype will be starting to snowball soon and we already have a decent Quigg fight on the undercard.
This is THE Heavyweight fight the world has waited years for.:cool:
I'd be genuinely gutted if Wlad pulled out of this but do fully believe AJ is gonna put a serious beating on him and go on to be a multiple belt holder and finally meet Fury for all the marbles which again only happens at Wembley infront of another 90,000 fans.
Infact AJ v Fury would be even bigger as Fury would Market the whole thing himself ;D
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It's the last roll of the dice for Wlad and i think win or lose he retires, it's THE only Massive and last payday he can get in one of the biggest Heavyweight fights the world has seen in years and years crowd wise.
Like him or Loathe him he will go down in Heavyweight history due to the length of his reign and number of fights regardless if a good amount of opponents were not worth a wank compared to proper Heavyweights from years gone bye.
Would love to know what AJ and Wlad are getting paid for this as it's gotta be an insane amount of money that surely will surpass what Froch and Groves got paid in either of their fights.
Huge fight but more importantly a Brilliant matchup as we know AJ is gonna come to KO him unlike Fury who used mind games and oddball Boxing tactics in an absolute borefest. The Media Hype will be starting to snowball soon and we already have a decent Quigg fight on the undercard.
This is THE Heavyweight fight the world has waited years for.:cool:
I'd be genuinely gutted if Wlad pulled out of this but do fully believe AJ is gonna put a serious beating on him and go on to be a multiple belt holder and finally meet Fury for all the marbles which again only happens at Wembley infront of another 90,000 fans.
Infact AJ v Fury would be even bigger as Fury would Market the whole thing himself ;D
Pretty much exactly as you have it....only I think Wlad still has something left in the tank, we'll see.
I don't really think it's fair to judge Wlad's competition during his reign as poor though he could only fight who was there and the ONLY other title holders during the time he was champ that he didn't fight were either his Brother (again, stupid to call for them to fight each other) and the WBA title holders before Haye: John Ruiz and Nicolay Valuev who simply did not want to fight Wlad.
If AJ wins then it may be his era for a long time, but fame can have a great impact on an individual....great can mean good and it can mean bad, look at Tyson Fury, look at what fame did to him, not even 1 single title defense, laughable. I sincerely hope the best for AJ he's a good kid, classy fighter.
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Some articles and a video on the upcoming fight:
Carl Froch expects Wladimir Klitschko to be back to his best against Anthony Joshua
Wladimir Klitschko's boxing brain will beat brawn, says his brother Vitali
Anthony Joshua claims Wladimir Klitschko hates mind games
Joshua vs. Klitschko Promo Video
Wladimir Klitschko predicting Wembley fireworks
Anthony Joshua: Spell at Nigerian boarding school was good for me
Froch said Alarm was suffering depression which may have been the reason Wlad performed poorly in his last fight against Fury. He was sitting next to the sky gimp who was smirking about the ppv buys it will make so not sure if it is true or even relevant.
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Yeah I heard Wlad had a lot of issues going into that Fury fight. I think his wife was suffering from some sort of post natal depression. Not making excuses but it couldn't have been easy. I hope this camp has been much more settled. I wonder if Vitali has been giving him some sparring?
I feel the jab will be the key to a Wlad victory. I also feel AJ has a bad habit (a little lazy) of not getting his right hand back quick enough after throwing a punch. I think a Wlad left hook can be valuable in this bout.
Watching highlights of Wlad's last few fights (I nodded off twice) I'm certain there was something wrong with him against Fury. His movement, speed and timing looked way off and it wasn't just down to a big man confusing him. He looked like a stuck computer game bouncing up and down unable to pull the trigger, like a fighter that had a poor camp.
Now he could have got old overnight, but also that wife stuff could be legit, well, how could it not affect you.
Who knows if he got rid of Jonathan Banks? Haven't seen him mentioned and they haven't shown any of those behind the scenes shows yet. As far as trainers go it was obvious he was nothing but a gofer
The reason Fury beat Wlad is because he intimidated him relentlessly over a number of months and at every single press conference Fury was the "Alpha Male", he got in his head and took every single advantage Wlad likes to have away from him, even the bouncy castle ring canvas was rumbled and stripped away to a normal depth only a few hours before the fight or the Fury's were refusing to fight, Fury then taunted him through the fight and it was an easy nights work.
When Emanuel Steward died so did a Huge part of Klitschkos boxing career as far as i'm concerned but it'll be interesting to see what happens when the bell goes because AJ has not and will not use mind games and intimidation to beat Wlad before they fight, this will be settled purely by boxing ability.
I do hope Wlad has a real go at AJ and think this could be a classic Heavyweight fight but all i do see is AJ being too young, Athletic and Powerful for Wlad to handle for long and AJ to go on to Knock him out .
So Wlad went 10 years as champ because of shitty opponents and constant cheating?And mind games beat him??? I doubt it. Wlad wasn't into the fight, his heart simply was not in it and he gave a poor performance, that is all. Anybody is due 1 poor night in 10 years.Quote:
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Originally Posted by El KabongSo Wlad went 10 years as champ because of shitty opponents and constant cheating?And mind games beat him??? I doubt it. Wlad wasn't into the fight, his heart simply was not in it and he gave a poor performance, that is all. Anybody is due 1 poor night in 10 years.Quote:
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Yes i believe that is exactly what happened, he met a man who was bigger than him and was intimidated and the proof was Wlad wearing platform shoes at one of the face offs to try and somehow impose himself on Fury but it didn't work and he just made himself look like a cunt;D
He couldn't bully Fury physically in the fight at all and he knew it, Fury fucked with his head by pure intimidation and that's exactly why Wlad was too scared to even let his hands go until the last round which again proves he could actually throw punches but was scared to because of what would be coming back.
The only reason he threw punches in the last round was out of desperation.
I've already been over this with you before Lyle
Well I guess we'll have to wait and see......I mean if Tyson Fury ever boxes again.
Wlad = 10 years dominance, 1 bad night
Tyson Fury = 1 good night, and a complete mental breakdown
Yeah now there's a new batch of Heavyweights that are actually "Live" and the same size as Wlad let's see how he does.
He's already lost to 1 out of the 3 of them and is about to lose to the 2nd ;)
He's had an amazing Career stat wise but in reality he's finished and after one last Huge payday as far as i'm concerned and fair play to him.
Classy guys the Klitschkos and I've always liked them both since Vitali fought Lennox.
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Wlad is also in his 40s smashup and Wilder, Joshua, Fury, et al are in their 20's....I get it, you dislike the guy, I get it.
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Wlad is also in his 40s smashup and Wilder, Joshua, Fury, et al are in their 20's....I get it, you dislike the guy, I get it.
Stop being a prick Lyle iv'e literally just told you i like both the Klitschkos
I had a look on Stubhub earlier and there's still a shitload of ticket's available at way more than face value which means yet again the fans are getting seriously ripped off by Matchroom as they are in bed with Stubhub (both companies have business interests together is the official line) just like they did for Froch v Groves 2.
£150 upwards for the "Telescope Tickets" ;D
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Ummm, okaaaay :-\ I'm not the guy dismissing a fighters entire career based on assumptions about poor competition and accusations of cheating...but whatever you say man.Quote:
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Wlad is also in his 40s smashup and Wilder, Joshua, Fury, et al are in their 20's....I get it, you dislike the guy, I get it.
Stop being a prick Lyle iv'e literally just told you i like both the Klitschkos
I can understand fans getting excited about Joshua. There are many reasons too. There are also many reasons to question the hype. Who has Joshua fought even remotely close to Wlad?
The thing is who have most of the other top heavyweights fought close to Wlad? That depth is still not there as it was in many past eras and Wlad and Vitali were the last link to the previous decent crop. If AJ beats him he is still not Lewis and who is there to make it intetesting? Wilder..... Then a big gap unless Fury gets his shit together and that's a big if.Quote:
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A lot of the heavies a green but If AJ went through the likes of Wlad, Fury, Wilder, Ortiz, Parker, you would to be impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzThe thing is who have most of the other top heavyweights fought close to Wlad? That depth is still not there as it was in many past eras and Wlad and Vitali were the last link to the previous decent crop. If AJ beats him he is still not Lewis and who is there to make it intetesting? Wilder..... Then a big gap unless Fury gets his shit together and that's a big if.Quote:
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Of course, like Wlad he can only fight who is in front of himQuote:
Originally Posted by AlphaA lot of the heavies a green but If AJ went through the likes of Wlad, Fury, Wilder, Ortiz, Parker, you would to be impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzThe thing is who have most of the other top heavyweights fought close to Wlad? That depth is still not there as it was in many past eras and Wlad and Vitali were the last link to the previous decent crop. If AJ beats him he is still not Lewis and who is there to make it intetesting? Wilder..... Then a big gap unless Fury gets his shit together and that's a big if.Quote:
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It's off Wlad is injured again shit fights off.