Valdez fight from behind his jab in the 7th. 4-3.
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Valdez fight from behind his jab in the 7th. 4-3.
When Valdez boxes behind the jab he is very effective but not as much fun. 5-3.
Big thanks for the rbr bud. Trouble with stream here, glad it's tight fight. Arums is a dope.
Get back and forth action. Marriaga having success as he is boxing again. 5-4. Close round tho.
Great 10th round. Marriaga is on fire. Both guys taking turns at landing. A left hand drops Marriaga hard. He makes it up. Over a minute to go. Valdez uinloading. Landing bombs to the end. Marriaga landed a big shot to end the round.
Valdez might have punched himself out in the previous round. Still looked dazed in the aerly part of the round. Both landing bombs throughout the round. I gave that round to Marriaga.
Great fight. What a 12th round. Valdez was closing strong but Marriaga fought back hard in the last 10 seconds. Valdez snuck the round. This is the sort of fight Valdez needed at this stage of his career. A fast paced gritty tough fight where he realizes he can't steamroll everyone. I have Valdez winning a close one.
119-108???
116-111
118-109
UD Valedz.
Scores were way too wide.
This was an excellent fight. Not sure how long it will be up for so watch it while you can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIIhQS5JzTw
Shawn Porter: what a dirty sack of shit fighter.
Dirty fighters are guys that use unauthorized IV's or cheap shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Deliberately leading with the head with the intent to injure throughout an entire fight is dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaDirty fighters are guys that use unauthorized IV's or cheap shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
So is using an unauthorized IV before a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoDeliberately leading with the head with the intent to injure throughout an entire fight is dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaDirty fighters are guys that use unauthorized IV's or cheap shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
So from reading this thread it appears Berto got mauled and beat up like Guerrero did to him?
I'm not sure I understand what that has to do with Shawn Porter...?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaSo is using an unauthorized IV before a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoDeliberately leading with the head with the intent to injure throughout an entire fight is dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaDirty fighters are guys that use unauthorized IV's or cheap shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Nothing but it always good to remind people what a hypocritical cunt Floyd was from time to time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoI'm not sure I understand what that has to do with Shawn Porter...?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaSo is using an unauthorized IV before a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoDeliberately leading with the head with the intent to injure throughout an entire fight is dirty.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaDirty fighters are guys that use unauthorized IV's or cheap shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Oh... right. The Floyd Mayweather obsession. All Saddo boxing threads must lead to him.
No. We just like to mention it when you are around. Otherwise Floyd is never mentioned.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
You're obsessed with Floyd Mayweather and I, but I'm talking about how dirty Shawn Porter is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo. We just like to mention it when you are around. Otherwise Floyd is never mentioned.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Yeah but you don't acknowledge how dirty Floyd was so it's kind of hypocritical.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoYou're obsessed with Floyd Mayweather and I, but I'm talking about how dirty Shawn Porter is.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo. We just like to mention it when you are around. Otherwise Floyd is never mentioned.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
@Freedom posted the fight in this thread at #89. Berto was having some success early although he was losing the rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
That was an OK performance from Porter, his usual roughhouse workmanlike high intensity performance. Berto did not have the desire to continue and maybe better to call it a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha@Freedom posted the fight in this thread at #89. Berto was having some success early although he was losing the rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Thurman still beats Porter.
It drives me crazy that he's allowed to be so aggressive with his headbutts and spinning opponents and elbowing. If a ref were to stop him from doing it from the outset or deduct points, then I don't think Porter would win these fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat was an OK performance from Porter, his usual roughhouse workmanlike high intensity performance. Berto did not have the desire to continue and maybe better to call it a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha@Freedom posted the fight in this thread at #89. Berto was having some success early although he was losing the rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Thurman still beats Porter.
The fight went as expected. Porter is strong and aggressive. He may beat Thurman if they have a rematch. The first fight was close. If Porter makes adjustments, he could definitely win. The winner of that fight will most likely fight Spence either way and get destroyed so it doesn't really matter.
how come this thread did get stickied but the one between abraham and krasniqi did... bloody moderators...
Why would the winner of this want to fight someone who's just lost a title challenge? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Positive thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWhy would the winner of this want to fight someone who's just lost a title challenge? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
I can see the futureQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraWhy would the winner of this want to fight someone who's just lost a title challenge? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
Was never high on berto. Stylistically, he always seemed wide on his punches and never fully turned them over. He has a little speed but couldn't really get power unless he opened up his stance and subjected himself to being off balance. He got outworked by a few of "try hards", with mediocre talent. Coupled with the fact that he like to talk more than he fights and his string of past injuries, this match wasn't going to go well... against Porter who is the try hardest of the try hards.
Not to take anything away from Porter by calling him a try hard. I'm a big fan. He's a lunch pail guy who is constantly looking for new ways to get better and add dimension to his game. He certainly has tenacity and pressures very well. He's relentless and his big wins seem to acts of sheer will rather than being a supremely talented pot shotter who can sit back and rest on his laurels and coast. He's not the tops of division in speed, power, movement, footwork, hand speed... Still, these are the type of fighters that make the sport for the non causal fan. They keep things interesting and really show you what every fighter they face is made of.
I don't recall lots of headbutt complaints from thurman, brooke, malignaggi and other fighters. The clashes of heads came from the fact that Berto is not strictly a back foot fighter and he was facing a very aggressive pressure fighter in Porter. He had the same problem with ortiz only ortiz received the worst of the clash of heads in that one. In these types of fights sometimes you're the buttor and sometimes you're the buttee.. These weren't Andre Ward missed right hand, follow through with the forehead kind of Butts either. Both guys were wide and trying to dig on the inside and sides of heads were exchanged. Berto fancies himself a pretty strong fighter, but it was evident by the way Porter was raking the body and battering him along the ropes, that berto was getting more than he bargained for.
Not a fan of either but I think a Berto/Broner matchup would be fun.
Porter was not that bad and it was not intentional. Brook never had problems with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoIt drives me crazy that he's allowed to be so aggressive with his headbutts and spinning opponents and elbowing. If a ref were to stop him from doing it from the outset or deduct points, then I don't think Porter would win these fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat was an OK performance from Porter, his usual roughhouse workmanlike high intensity performance. Berto did not have the desire to continue and maybe better to call it a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha@Freedom posted the fight in this thread at #89. Berto was having some success early although he was losing the rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Thurman still beats Porter.
I just came into this thread again, and found that rocco and I agree on Shawn Porter.
So with that said, I'm going to go out and buy one of those doomsday shelters..... because the end of civilization as we know it is sure to be around the corner.
I couldn't get in here Saturday night. Couldn't connect to server or something like that. How come you fuckers all got in? Was it working smoothly for you? I couldn't even get the main forum screen to come up.
I had no issues, Kirk. I hope Walrus wasn't hacking your account. ;D
Yeah no... no problems here. I think the site has had issues more frequently as of late, tho.
No problem for any of us and we did rbr for 4 fights. Missed a good weekend of boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I had no problems getting on the site. I don't think Porter was intentionally trying to be dirty. It was just the way their styles clashed. Both guys coming forward. Porter is super aggressive.
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Originally Posted by Alpha
It seems we're always making excuses for the guy who goes out and tries real hard. As long as Porter isn't warned/ penalized about using his head as a weapon, intentional or not, he's going to keep on doing it. Did you catch what he said after the fight. "Uhh.. yeah, we gotta work on that headbutting." Gee..... ya THINK?!? I don't know... I just abhor his fighting style. It's the case where you know exactly what kind of fight you're gonna watch coming in, and he doesn't disappoint. To each his own, I guess.....
I'm not much of a fan of his style and I think if he took a half step back at times he could be much more effective. He has a good jab that when used gets him in range to unload to the body. He always comes to fight tho, is always in excellent shape, gives 110% and will push the other guy to the brink. I respect that. There's a ref for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It seems we're always making excuses for the guy who goes out and tries real hard. As long as Porter isn't warned/ penalized about using his head as a weapon, intentional or not, he's going to keep on doing it. Did you catch what he said after the fight. "Uhh.. yeah, we gotta work on that headbutting." Gee..... ya THINK?!? I don't know... I just abhor his fighting style. It's the case where you know exactly what kind of fight you're gonna watch coming in, and he doesn't disappoint. To each his own, I guess.....