Who do you think AJ thinks/ hopes will win and what makes for the bigger better fight?
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Who do you think AJ thinks/ hopes will win and what makes for the bigger better fight?
AJ must be hoping for Wilder to win.
Do you think AJ/Wilder is bigger than AJ/Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
AJ v Fury would be bigger but I think it will take longer to make. I genuinely think Wilder would have been next for AJ in April 2019.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaDo you think AJ/Wilder is bigger than AJ/Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
AJ against the winner mid to late '19 is huge either way I guess. Let's hope it doesn't drag into 2020 or longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterAJ v Fury would be bigger but I think it will take longer to make. I genuinely think Wilder would have been next for AJ in April 2019.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaDo you think AJ/Wilder is bigger than AJ/Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
If Fury wins, it will. He will want a couple of easy defences and gloat at Eddie/AJ before he commits. The fact that they are on BT will also cause issues as they are also a ppv channel now. 2020 it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaAJ against the winner mid to late '19 is huge either way I guess. Let's hope it doesn't drag into 2020 or longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterAJ v Fury would be bigger but I think it will take longer to make. I genuinely think Wilder would have been next for AJ in April 2019.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaDo you think AJ/Wilder is bigger than AJ/Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Even Steven.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaDo you think AJ/Wilder is bigger than AJ/Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
IMO if you asked AJ himself, he'd probably prefer Fury. As unorthodox as Wilder is, he still represents a KTFO threat with every punch thrown. AJ probably feels, and rightfully so, that Fury would not be able to get into his head like he did with Wlad. That was pathetic. With no head games and no power, Fury has little else but his own awkwardness and size to bring to the table. I think AJ prefers Fury.
I can’t imagine that AJ wouldn’t prefer Fury to win. It would generate a ton of money and I think he has a better shot at winning.
If Wilder defeats Fury, it generates a ton of money as well, but his power is a greater threat than Fury's size and mind games in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerpuncher
So any ideas what winning combination generates the most $$$?
Walk in the park for Tyson this, the legend is way too skillful for someone like Wilder with poor technique
Yea it's a pity that he chose to comeback against poor opposition, instead of fighting someone who might have shown us something.Quote:
Originally Posted by plopeater_jr_jr
Anyone else hearing that Fury is upset with the offers from Wilder's side? Fight may be in jeopardy.
I thought they would have sorted all this out before announcing the fight. Crazy if true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Here's a little something to geneate excitement about this fight.
https://youtu.be/I-o6NeZr9HE
Looking at that video, an obvious target for Fury is the small Body that Wilder has which if pummelled will mess Wilder up after a few rounds.
Furys combination of skill, head movement and youth releative to some of Wilders opponents, should expose Wilder.
The Boxing Media in the US can Hype Wilder up, pointing to Furys quality of opponents, and they are right to do so.
I just see it as an embarrassment to Wilder by the middle rounds.
Wilder has the right hand, most agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by sanatogen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-WPY3FUQwc
Apparently fury is bottling it and thinks november is too soon
Not decided for sure yet, but Dan Rafael says Fury wants another warm-up fight first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
I hope he does delay it until sometime in 2019 after he has a couple of warm-up fights and is back to his best.
Read post 93.Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
Glad to have you back
If the fight gets delayed, it's for the best as long as Fury takes that time to have a fight with a tall, fringe contender type of fighter.
To me, this fight has been rushed and it’s clear Fury could use some more rounds.
If Fury could face a decent opponent in the fall, while Wilder faces someone like Breazeale, then a Wilder-Fury match up could happen next year with a sharper, stronger and fitter Fury.
Wilder would get more credit for beating a well-prepared, in-shape Fury.
Didn't Fury say he could beat AJ and Wilder without any tune ups? Now he wants another tune up.
Especially in a HW fight, one single punch can change the whole game, so it could happen, but I think that the odds are highly stacked against Fury.
Tyson will Crouch down like a bobcat
In the middle of the fifth round
Then he will pounce
Uppercut
10 count
KO
Bronze bomber
Will decide to retire
@sanatogen nailed it and nailed it good
That wimpy little pretzel body of Wilder cannot ever
take the onslaught of a giant who is related to the Nephilim
I just hope Fury doesn't chicken out.
That’s the issue with Fury. I agree that he could for sure use another tune up, but he shouldn’t be talking trash if he isn’t willing to fight right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Everyone already knew Fury is full of shit. But this is taking it to new heights. One thing is the senseless trash-talking he does, all off of his 15 minutes of fame with Wlad. Another thing is to entice fans with a possible showdown with Wilder, only to back off with a "just kidding folks" to the fans. Hearn and AJ must be laughing themselves silly right now, while Wilder must be wondering what does it take to get a fight with one of these jokers. If Fury's just gonna be talking shit, let him flounder around, fighting the next bum on the list, and leave the boxing headlines alone. Stupid f*ck.
Warren's announcement of last week has past and has now announced that an announcement will be next week. I've heard Nov-17 in Vegas but will believe it when the bell rings.
Looks more and more likely to me that Fury used this to promote his last fight. Hope I'm wrong an Fury's bipolar doesn't rear it's ugly head to scuttle the fight.
Snowstorm Tyson
Snowflakes blinding him
Freezing Winter Party
.... A 20% chance he will become a coked-out weasel by Halloween...... 💥🎃🌚🎃🌚🎃💥
Strange that they were both saying it was a done deal, but no official announcement was made after Fury's fight.
Also as we 'learned', you can't have a contract without a date and venue :vd:
I think we better go back to the KSI fight of tonight and forget about these two clownsQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
We'll have to get Masters opinion as to if it was better than Fury's last fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbustI think we better go back to the KSI fight of tonight and forget about these two clownsQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Rumors of the fight being off could all be part of Fury's mind games.
Tyson says nothing has changed from his pov
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/s...50630676627456
Where has he backed off though? You can't believe it just because Fat Dan and the Sun 'have heard a rumour' and Eddie Hearn 'doubts it will happen'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
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Originally Posted by BeanzWhere has he backed off though? You can't believe it just because Fat Dan and the Sun 'have heard a rumour' and Eddie Hearn 'doubts it will happen'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I was going off posts I read on the thread. Should've checked the sources, tho. If it was Fat Dan who claimed that, then I should've known it was Fake News.
After all, Fat Dan had Beltran and Pedraza even in last night's fight.
Fat Dan is a disgrace to boxing journalism. Why ESPN even keeps him around is beyond me.
Because people get lazy and used to those who are there. Why people would read garbage like the Sun baffles me too. Fury has pulled out of fights before so I can understand why it would seem plausible but one of this magnitude would truly leave him with egg on his face and believe me that would not go down well here or with his family and community. Kings don't back pedal off away for a challenge like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhere has he backed off though? You can't believe it just because Fat Dan and the Sun 'have heard a rumour' and Eddie Hearn 'doubts it will happen'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
I was going off posts I read on the thread. Should've checked the sources, tho. If it was Fat Dan who claimed that, then I should've known it was Fake News.
After all, Fat Dan had Beltran and Pedraza even in last night's fight.
Fat Dan is a disgrace to boxing journalism. Why ESPN even keeps him around is beyond me.
I think his ability to be under estimated is his strongest attribute. The art of not being hit when you are such a huge fella is much harder to execute and he does it brilliantly at times. Might be ugly to watch but it is even more important in the ungloved tradition he is a continuation of. It's no coincidence. He can certainly make Wilder look like a mug. Whether he can do that for 12 rounds and not get laid out is another thing but it will be interesting to find out.
I would say that Fury and Wilder is the most exciting heavyweight fight that I can remember in a long time with maybe Wladimir Klitschko and AJ being a close runner-up. Now when I say exciting I am not a hell of a lot of punches thrown in action like the Klitschko and AJ fight but I'm talking more about we are now going to see the excitement of two people with completely different styles and I mean completely different styles like you can't believe. And the question for me is can Tyson Fury double faint and triple think and switch off the South Pole and mug the guy and get into the guy's mind and make him wild and desperate and flailing like the atomic windmill that we all know he really is and then jump in like a bobcat really quick and throw that uppercut that I am saying he will throw in about the fifth round to really ice and I mean really ice Deontay Wilder.
Are Wilder's pretzel thin legs sturdy enough with enough stamina the fight a guy as big and heavy as Fury 4 12 rounds? Is Wilder's relatively skinny and upper body able to withstand the jumping and mugging and bathing and trolling and movement of furi for 12 rounds?
Is Wilder's very skinny waist and very wimpy looking midsection able to take the pummeling of Tyson Fury?
This is what makes it exciting for me
It was always pointed out that they were only rumours at this stage that the fight may be off. Also that it could be a Fury ploy to get in Wilders head.
I'll wait for Warren's already pushed back announcement on a fight that both fighters have said is a done deal.
I hope it comes together with no delays as it is an intriguing bout which has generated much interest as can be seen by the threads and replies to these threads.
Well, respect to Fury then for actually making/taking this fight. I don't like his style of fighting, nor do I like his shenanigans in and out of the ring.... but once again, he's doing what Team AJ was unable/unwilling to do. Who knows how this will play out. I seriously doubt he can get in Wilder's head like he did with Wlad. Different animals. Wlad fought timid and made it an easy night for Fury. Wilder will be out for the knockout. Hopefully his team will prepare him to go the 12 rounds, and not go hog-wild wasting energy in useless windmills.
They're both outlandish characters, and this should make for a fun fight. Fury-Wlad it won't be, I can bet money on that. AJ remains the odd man sitting out, seeing his clash with Povetkin a bit diminished and probably wishing he had taken Wilder's negotiations a little more seriously.