how did you know your family members had covid-19? i mean actually know? didn't you say they weren't tested? did you just guess?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
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how did you know your family members had covid-19? i mean actually know? didn't you say they weren't tested? did you just guess?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
Thank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How was it treated? What medicines?
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Originally Posted by El KabongThank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How was it treated? What medicines?
Thousands of people working on the front line in hospitals everyday cannot get a test. "I have no idea if i have had the Corona Virus" is not a difficult sentence to untangle. You can pretend that i said "i believe i had it" but i never said that. You said that .
You must be loving having every one of your biases confirmed. ;D
so you don't know if you had it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How was it treated? What medicines?
Thousands of people working on the front line in hospitals everyday cannot get a test. "I have no idea if i have had the Corona Virus" is not a difficult sentence to untangle. You can pretend that i said "i believe i had it" but i never said that. You said that .
You must be loving having every one of your biases confirmed. ;D
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Originally Posted by El KabongThank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How was it treated? What medicines?
There are no medicines available to treat it. Paracetamol to manage temperature. Benzocaine and Tyrothricin anaesthetic and antibiotic for Throat pain and Vitamin D and C etc. Rest, rest. rest. You can only treat the symptoms like many viruses.
Whatever possessed God in heaven to make a man like you?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso you don't know if you had it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How was it treated? What medicines?
Thousands of people working on the front line in hospitals everyday cannot get a test. "I have no idea if i have had the Corona Virus" is not a difficult sentence to untangle. You can pretend that i said "i believe i had it" but i never said that. You said that .
You must be loving having every one of your biases confirmed. ;D
I did not say your family would 'probably die' if they had it. That is another work of your tenuous neurons, Beanz. I have said people with serious existing conditions are much more likely to be hospitalized and die. Many obviously do not. The fact is none of you were hospitalized or even know if you had it.
When were you in this hotel?
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Originally Posted by BeanzWhatever possessed God in heaven to make a man like you?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso you don't know if you had it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How was it treated? What medicines?
Thousands of people working on the front line in hospitals everyday cannot get a test. "I have no idea if i have had the Corona Virus" is not a difficult sentence to untangle. You can pretend that i said "i believe i had it" but i never said that. You said that .
You must be loving having every one of your biases confirmed. ;D
This is where Alpha is supposed to interject and say
"God didn't make TIC. I made him"
It is not Mastermind. I am not going to indulge you.
There are hundreds of people in Hospitals and at home recovering who have answered all the questions you will ask. If you think, they, Saddo Veterans and friends, family and colleagues of posters here are all crisis actors, then frankly fuck you.
if you have know idea if you had it, then there is no proof you didQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhatever possessed God in heaven to make a man like you?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso you don't know if you had it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How was it treated? What medicines?
Thousands of people working on the front line in hospitals everyday cannot get a test. "I have no idea if i have had the Corona Virus" is not a difficult sentence to untangle. You can pretend that i said "i believe i had it" but i never said that. You said that .
You must be loving having every one of your biases confirmed. ;D
i'm asking how they know they had it. they were told something & they chose to believe it. that is not knowing so frankly fuck youQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
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Originally Posted by TICif you have know idea if you had it, then there is no proof you didQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanzWhatever possessed God in heaven to make a man like you?Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso you don't know if you had it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongThank you for your response to the question. You believe you all had it, no test to confirm, but you felt it different than the flu. That answers a few of my questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
How was it treated? What medicines?
Thousands of people working on the front line in hospitals everyday cannot get a test. "I have no idea if i have had the Corona Virus" is not a difficult sentence to untangle. You can pretend that i said "i believe i had it" but i never said that. You said that .
You must be loving having every one of your biases confirmed. ;D
Correct.
Maybe you should be on Mastermind John.
Specialist subject - Fighting a war others can not win
What belief is it you think I’m trying to uphold Lyle?
I thought and said as much right at the start of this. Not as serious as flu. Interim flu I think I called it. I now think I was wrong in doing so. Stupid in fact. It very quickly became far more serious.
My interest was and is only in understanding this idea that it’s no more serious than flu, yet needing some form of proof that someone might have had it.
Then dismissing this claim because there was no test. All the while quoting CDC numbers on flu that are estimated because millions upon millions of people never get tested.
Seems odd to me.
Miles. We had a question a few days ago. Anyone know anyone that has it. It’s now become anyone in your family. The nets been narrowed to support a losing argument. Let’s not pretend that didn’t happen.
i need proof that someone might have it, because it has shutdown the world. people getting sick or influenza or even tuberculosis hasn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
& i asked in that thread how they would know. do you know someone that has it? tell me how you knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Has the thread title changed? It is the same as at the start. The consensus is no except for Beanz who is still a likely no but went on holiday to a Corona hotel hotspot and there was no hospital or testing after despite others doing just that in his town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I take it from 2 nurses I trust and respect. They are/were seeing numbers of patients on much more rapid declines and more ill than at any time previously in careers. On whole when admitted, not in singles. Young-old-fit-fat..equal opportunity sickness.
Have a former co worker still on a ventilator. Not family, but familiar and was healthy. I actually tried to get tested last week but was told I needed to have 'overt' signs as in constant cough or throwing up etc. I frankly don't know what it was but I do know this...I have not been sick literally in years. Not even a cold. But it came on sudden afterward with hot cold feels, sweating and dizzy and for lack of a better definition flat out discombobulated and fatigued. Had a weird ass taste in my mouth that surely was not ass but a nasty film. I actually tried to drive my car for a minute before realizing I hadn't started it yet :-X. Lasted for about 4 days and one day at work I just stopped sweating and trying to sleep standing up. Was it Covid..no fecking idea. BP was fine and had bossman tell me ohhh it's just stress. Which was bs. I know stressful events and do well under pressure. But I def have never felt like that so sudden and consistently. I hardly think people are sheep and crying wolf about genuinely knowing their bodies and health histories.
That's the funny thing about this thread. I am just curious if anyone in their family has had it. I believe that people have been getting very sick, one cannot avoid thqt reality, but I just do not know anyone sick in my circle and most are the same. I do know of someone, not family who died yesterday, but not a single Corona infection. You would think more would be coming down with things, but I just didn't see it and now less likely.
I wish anyone sick well and hope death is minimal and recovery effective, but I just don't know these people. No friends have mentioned sick family or anything. I just thought 'Surely someone would have had it'.
It's an odd one. All these celebrities with it and yet most just do not. It is a strange one. I think it sounds like a nasty infection, but then you hear for many it is nothing much and for others the bitter end. Very unusual.
TIC. I said in that thread that the brother of my missus’s friend had died of it. You want proof how, death certificate? Even if I could, or would share that with you. What then?
nothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
i was talking about the poll thread but anyway, so how do you know the brother of your missus's friend had it? no i don't want a death certificate, i want you to provide me with the test or tests you did to prove it was covid-19Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
You know full well that I’ve done no tests right? Is that the point of the question?
Let’s pretend for one second that I have and shared that with you. Then what?
You have likely known about the virus since February at the latest, then got sick at the end of February/March and then only a few weeks ago were complaining about losing business because 70% of it is outdoors. I do hope you were being safe and not potentially spreading a disease that for some is dangerous by being a super spreader. Indeed, let us hope it really was only the flu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz
If you knew you that hotel was a Corona one and you all had symptoms, I do not understand why you would not pursue a test or go to a hospital as you would be a risk unless you were isolating yourself completely and tracing anyone you had come across. Were you still working? Likewise, if your wife has pre-existing conditions, why would you potentially endanger her too? You saw with Johnson how it can easily develop for those who are older and not in the best of shape. Please do not take that as an attack, but more a series of questions and musings because it sounds strange.
so you just believe what you were told? well you would have to tell me the method of your testing, then i could carry that out on every person i know & get the same results, that would be working towards actually knowing, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
So Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICnothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.
that's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is nowQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSo Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICnothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.
I believe you, but also when one says they are healthy, are they always healthy? I question that because many have conditions that they just do not know of. There are people with cancer in their bodies for more than a decade and they didn't know, there are people with heart problems that they put down to digestion issues. They never knew. Then when something else comes along, then they go. There are millions right now in America who think they are healthy, but unless they do the full checks they just do not know. Many are not even insured. Heck, my estrogen was a case in point. Not harmful, but you just do not know what is happening unless you get the data back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Your 4 days symptoms sound like one of my panic attacks and are a sign that you need some serious rest! Don't work yourself too hard and go easy on yourself. Some have stress from not working at all, others have stress from working too much. Heck people are even killing themselves because they cannot leave the house. All sorts of strange physiological things are at work in times of immense abnormality.
Pretty certain one can find a menu of previous diseases and ailments once considered death sentences that are now manageable and/or cured through those 'implemented procedures' you speak of. Not sure but that may be a part of how studies and clinical trials and treatments in medicine work. We obey more from Government and authority figures than we'd all like to admit even as we front like the fervent rebels of yesteryear. Being smart and not gambling with health of friends and loved ones does not make one entirely subservient. Though much of this now is dealing with the unknown on route to educating ourselves as we've done so often prior. If only there was an annual flu shot or vaccine to deal with what is obviously 'the common flu' to some.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthat's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is nowQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSo Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICnothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.
I'll be doing the asking now.
1. What is the driving force behind trying to belittle/deny the gravity of the pandemic?
2. Why the refusal to look at the already given and posted (by me) numbers comparing COVID-19 with the flu?
3. Why the anger and resentment for those people who choose to obey social distancing guidelines and protect themselves?
4. Why the dogged relentless questions about cause of death?
5. Why the persistent comparisons between COVID-19 and every other cause of death under the sun, including but not limited to: cancer, heart attacks, car accidents, hunger, meteor strikes?
I'd like these answered to my satisfaction, thanks.
I was a bit tongue in cheek with the panic attacks, but seriously a good diet, good exercise, avoidance of booze and drugs and not working too hard and you are on your way to freedom. Take care of yourself, Spicoli. Only you can do that.
I'm good bro but thanks for the judgments and assumptions :p. Been doing that last part my entire life btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
1. I think it is a meaningful health issue, but it does not compare with prior pandemics. Maybe I say this from a place where it has been controlled.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
2. I have looked at the data and the risk of Covid is clearly higher than flu given the data, but if many have had it and not been tested then that also skews the data too. Heck, Beanz and his family may have had it and all alive. If added to the numbers the death rate declines. All I know is that 0.4% chance of death is relatively low. And even lower considering I am not obese, with diabetes, heart issues etc. Of course it is an issue, but still relatively low. Get healthy and you are even less likely to die from it.
3. I think people should social distance. I do it myself and I wear a mask. I just do not think a man alone in a park reading a book or a guy on the ocean surfing is an issue.
4. Cause of death is important. For instance if you have stage 4 cancer and then catch Covid it will push you over, but you were 90% likely to die very soon anyway. It's like a person with AIDS getting the flu. Of course the flu killed him, but he had AIDS. It is important to put that into perspective.
5. I compare because more people have died this year from other conditions than been even infected with covid. It puts it into perspective. You are more likely to die from something than even get infected with Covid. For most it is a bad flu, for some it is more serious, most recover. You cannot say the same for late stage cancer. It kills far more and we do nothing to detect it. More Americans have died from other things in far greater numbers than even died globally from Corona. It is just a bit of perspective again.
Corona is not everything, it does not shape all health concerns, it does not kill everyone, but we should take it seriously and be responsible in our efforts to contain it. Maybe you will see it from my position in say a month.
You are quite welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliI'm good bro but thanks for the judgments and assumptions :p. Been doing that last part my entire life btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
isn't it about saving humanity? a lot more lives are lost to other causes but none of these shutdown the world. show me proof that i would be that i would be gambling with the health of friends & loved ones. i don't go around coughing on people. people can decide for themselves if they want to risk socializing, if you had a business would you prefer to take a risk of getting the virus & keeping your business afloat to those that chose to use your services or risk losing it & not being able to provide for your loved ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliPretty certain one can find a menu of previous diseases and ailments once considered death sentences that are now manageable and/or cured through those 'implemented procedures' you speak of. Not sure but that may be a part of how studies and clinical trials and treatments in medicine work. We obey more from Government and authority figures than we'd all like to admit even as we front like the fervent rebels of yesteryear. Being smart and not gambling with health of friends and loved ones does not make one entirely subservient. Though much of this now is dealing with the unknown on route to educating ourselves as we've done so often prior. If only there was an annual flu shot or vaccine to deal with what is obviously 'the common flu' to some.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthat's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is nowQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSo Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICnothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.
asking for proof is not belittling or denying anything. those numbers are not proof & have already been criticized. no anger at those that choose to social distance, just don't force me to follow your ideas without proof. not sure what you mean in question four. you forgot tuberculosis, it's about saving lives right? there are things that cause much more death that haven't shutdown the world & don't receive the necessary attention they shouldQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Thing about a virus is it's not only about me or who I choose to cough on. As individuals that's fine, but what we choose to open ourselves up to is what we carry and transmit to every other person we come in contact with. Any virus not just a still yet to be fully understood Covid. With business you find compromise as to ensure the safety of staff and clients, less you become the one on the street with a reputation of winging it and assuming my want and rights outweigh exactly those who I need to keep it afloat. Ya can't talk about saving humanity but never look or consider consequences beyond yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICisn't it about saving humanity? a lot more lives are lost to other causes but none of these shutdown the world. show me proof that i would be that i would be gambling with the health of friends & loved ones. i don't go around coughing on people. people can decide for themselves if they want to risk socializing, if you had a business would you prefer to take a risk of getting the virus & keeping your business afloat to those that chose to use your services or risk losing it & not being able to provide for your loved ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliPretty certain one can find a menu of previous diseases and ailments once considered death sentences that are now manageable and/or cured through those 'implemented procedures' you speak of. Not sure but that may be a part of how studies and clinical trials and treatments in medicine work. We obey more from Government and authority figures than we'd all like to admit even as we front like the fervent rebels of yesteryear. Being smart and not gambling with health of friends and loved ones does not make one entirely subservient. Though much of this now is dealing with the unknown on route to educating ourselves as we've done so often prior. If only there was an annual flu shot or vaccine to deal with what is obviously 'the common flu' to some.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthat's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is nowQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSo Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICnothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.
that guy on cnn admitted that they don't understand how the virus spreads, but they put all these social distancing & stay in place orders in place anyway. can you provide proof that what we choose to open ourselves up to is what we carry and transmit to every other person we come in contact with? i'm sure you would have tests i could do that would prove that right, not just your beliefs. i would think a small business would be able to manage things better a supermarket could, no reason restaurants couldn't work out a delivery service. i'm not talking about saving humanity, that's gates' line & those pushing the whole social distancing to save lives. i'd prefer people to just live their lives based on facts & not fearQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThing about a virus is it's not only about me or who I choose to cough on. As individuals that's fine, but what we choose to open ourselves up to is what we carry and transmit to every other person we come in contact with. Any virus not just a still yet to be fully understood Covid. With business you find compromise as to ensure the safety of staff and clients, less you become the one on the street with a reputation of winging it and assuming my want and rights outweigh exactly those who I need to keep it afloat. Ya can't talk about saving humanity but never look or consider consequences beyond yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICisn't it about saving humanity? a lot more lives are lost to other causes but none of these shutdown the world. show me proof that i would be that i would be gambling with the health of friends & loved ones. i don't go around coughing on people. people can decide for themselves if they want to risk socializing, if you had a business would you prefer to take a risk of getting the virus & keeping your business afloat to those that chose to use your services or risk losing it & not being able to provide for your loved ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliPretty certain one can find a menu of previous diseases and ailments once considered death sentences that are now manageable and/or cured through those 'implemented procedures' you speak of. Not sure but that may be a part of how studies and clinical trials and treatments in medicine work. We obey more from Government and authority figures than we'd all like to admit even as we front like the fervent rebels of yesteryear. Being smart and not gambling with health of friends and loved ones does not make one entirely subservient. Though much of this now is dealing with the unknown on route to educating ourselves as we've done so often prior. If only there was an annual flu shot or vaccine to deal with what is obviously 'the common flu' to some.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICthat's what i am trying to find out. people are losing their lively hoods over something that is totally unproven to them. you want to trust the government & authorities go right ahead, they have never lied before have they? this time you can trust them. i'm not dismissing people getting sick or dying, happens everyday, in larger numbers than this virus in some cases, if the focus is on saving lives then why haven't we implemented procedures to deal with these causes of death? none may i add, that have shutdown the world like it is nowQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliSo Doc..what exactly is proof of Covid? Seeing as how we still have half measured testing, no vaccine and little idea what exactly the life span, transmissions, treatments, on and on are to begin with this early on. Seems we're open to say I'm not sure what it was but you already know enough to prove what it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICnothing in here is proof of covid-19. no one is saying people don't get sick. the mind can be a powerful thing. like when someone has nits & lice, you will start scratching your own head or mass psychogenic illness, not saying that's what happened but fear is used to control people. people can understand symptoms of illness but that is not proof of covid-19Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Are there sheeple getting caught up, sure there are. We're human. FFS grown adults hoard toilet paper. We convince ourselves some whacky shat. As with any larger and sudden 'group think' especially dealing with death like we are. But to flat out dismiss differing scenarios and experiences with such certainty seems a bit odd and close minded.
No one said the threat title changed Miles. It was a separate thread. The question has changed from do you know anyone, to does anyone n your family.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfHas the thread title changed? It is the same as at the start. The consensus is no except for Beanz who is still a likely no but went on holiday to a Corona hotel hotspot and there was no hospital or testing after despite others doing just that in his town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
I don’t buy that it was done out of idle curiosity. It was done to make it harder to say yes to continue to support a narrative that’s on Increasing shaky ground. Just my opinion of course.
Yes. I believed the words that came out of her mouth. I believed those words because they echoed what was in the message she received. From that point going backwards, it could have been a massive web of lies, I just don’t know. I didn’t think to ask for the testing procedure that was undertaken on the basis that a stranger on the internet might not believe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TICso you just believe what you were told? well you would have to tell me the method of your testing, then i could carry that out on every person i know & get the same results, that would be working towards actually knowing, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
You want to test everyone you know for a virus that a) doesn’t exist or b) isn’t that serious? Why?
Let’s assume we do all that. What next? I’m keen to know where this is going.