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"Corbyn does not have an Open border policy and you are swallowing this whole austerity bullshit in order to excuse yourself not supporting Corbyn. He is talking about investing in infastructure, education and building council houses something long overdue in this country and likely to swell not empty the coffers.Do you want the NHS to be sold off to the same private American companies responsible for all those dead claimants they said were fit for work? Do you want the massive corporations paying no tax to be given even more of a free ride and the power to shape public policies in their favour? Do you want workers rights to be further eroded and Zero hours contracts extended into all areas of work? Do you want public sector pay cuts to increase and to take away free school meals form those who need them? Do you want those caring for disabled and often terminal family members to be paid less than those on the dole for round the clock 24/7 care every day and night of their lives? Do you want huge companies to be able to continue defaulting payments to their suppliers driving small business into bankruptcy while they rake in huge profits? Because the Tories do and if you think that Corbyn is bland and uninteresting then you will be helping them stay there if you are not going to vote against them.
Today the Labour party demonstrated true leadership in guaranteeing European working residents here the right to remain if they are voted in. This will give the EU no option other than keeping those same rights for British workers and residents in the EU. Science, business, education is very reliant on these workers and it would be churlish and decidedly childish and unpatriotic to use British citizens as pawns in some negotiation game as May is suggesting. Corbyn and the Labour party have said they will go ahead with Brexit but in a responsible manner rather than ditching all the environmental and workers safeguards in place like the Tories are going to do.
I would like to have stayed in Europe but it seems that many who voted for Brexit have had another agenda all along and nothing the Labour party does will convince those who want the UK to return to the 1960's or even before. That time has gone and hopefully the young will stick two fingers up to the old way of doing things and change Britain for the better. It cannot carry on like it is." - Beanz 2017.
Are you sure you have not voted for the same party twice? I mean, cool you were Greeny in 2015, but seemed friends with the bloke in 2015 and by 2017 you were gushing.
Why did you not vote for him then?
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Yes you are right. I was mistaken, twice I have voted for Labour in the last 3 years. That of course would never usually be possible but we are under the cosh of the most corrupt and traitorous government in British history who are still it seems after 60,000 dead subjects, making it up as they go along.
If you think that makes me an idealogue when you are still supporting nazi saluting pissed up scum you need to think about how little you care about the UK, and wind your neck in.
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Beanz
Yes you are right. I was mistaken, twice I have voted for Labour in the last 3 years. That of course would never usually be possible but we are under the cosh of the most corrupt and traitorous government in British history who are still it seems after 60,000 dead subjects, making it up as they go along.
If you think that makes me an idealogue when you are still supporting nazi saluting pissed up scum you need to think about how little you care about the UK, and wind your neck in.
Just trying to confirm because what you said in your initial post did not add up. And neither did the conclusion about wanting to shoot you either which I will put in the list of absurdities like the 'wanting to see you die in your home' thing which I would love to see evidence of.
I see a few more in the above post too though. I do not support Nazi saluting types and never have done. I cannot think of anything worse than genuine Fascism or Communism which do overlap in numerous ways. I have certainly questioned narratives in history such as wondering about Holocaust numbers, but I don't doubt that the Nazi's killed millions of people of Jewish origin as well as many other groups and have zero sympathy for such a regime.
I don't think many people on the 'right' support Nazi's, Beanz. In fact I am not sure that all that many on the 'right' are even all that right wing. They just don't want open borders and permanent transformation of their society without consent. Are there people interested in history? Sure. Are there likely some people who do adhere to such an ideology? Sure. However, I don't think very many do. There are many who do adhere to extremist ideologies in the UK though and not many of them are likely to be following Adolf.
Please do not accuse me of supporting Nazi saluting people though because I do not. You have said you support Antifa. I have never said I support people who piss on statues or adhere to Nazism. I do reverse my position on things over time, but don't really have a thing for tearing down statues or promoting fascism.
You are welcome.
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They were Tommies goons and Britain First and you have consistently supported them and rammed that ideology down everyone's throats. In an effort to appear interesting and some kind of Devils Advocate for the ridiculous idea that the white majority are victimised in a country you left for homogeneous safety.
I am putting you back onto ignore because your racism and anti Britishness turns my stomach.
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They were Tommies goons and Britain First and you have consistently supported them and rammed that ideology down everyone's throats. In an effort to appear interesting and some kind of Devils Advocate for the ridiculous idea that the white majority are victimised in a country you left for homogeneous safety.
I am putting you back onto ignore because your racism and anti Britishness turns my stomach.
Anti Britishness and racism?
I believe we should treat all races equally and that British people have a right to self determination and to maintain their country. I am deeply sorry if this offends you. :-\
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Stop buying pre-shredded cheese.
Make Britain grate again.
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Stop buying pre-shredded cheese.
Make Britain grate again.
I can assure you that the cheese available in South Korea is of a paltry and watered down selection.
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"Laughable the press and police will slam the 'far-right' hard now but if they had policed the supposed 'far-left' last weekend this wouldn't even be happening". - Daniel.
"Funny how the police have no problem stirring into action as soon as the no rights "far right" appear" - Nucleus.
"We no longer have a police force.. it's now a police service.. and a arm of the left.!" - Households.
"If the police last week had dealt appropriately with the violence and criminal damage this would not have escalated to the scenes witnessed today! Also there are so many stoking the fire, political parties, the media and the BBC in particular! They have a lot to answer for! Shame on them!" lcm59
"Lots of people on here calling them Far Right,let me enlighten some of you,a few friends of mine are there today and their political views are not to the right the are active members in a trade union and one is a shop steward.They are doing what they believe is right." - Blueheart.
Two sides to every story I guess.
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"So, just to understand this; the police will move against those trying to protect our precious monuments but will stand back and, in some cases, applaud the mobs trying to destroy them. Have I missed anything here?" - Ian.
Ian, I hate to be the one to break the sad news to you, but you are now officially a Neo Nazi. :o
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Its all kicking off in London from all accounts, BLM thugs and some right wing thugs going at it.
Don't tell fibs Ahmed (bloody spell check)
Far Right Sieg Heiling Neo Nazi Thugs attacking the Police has been going on all day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuAr5ceUbsI
fibs ? before the right came to the demonstration , there had been plenty of violence from the blm.
I told it as it is, what is the problem ? idiots on both the left and right.
Fibs ? that is rich from a guy who only voted for labour once , or was it twice hmmm lets see what suits your argument today.
AHMED ? what are you talking about ?
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Yes you are right. I was mistaken, twice I have voted for Labour in the last 3 years. That of course would never usually be possible but we are under the cosh of the most corrupt and traitorous government in British history who are still it seems after 60,000 dead subjects, making it up as they go along.
If you think that makes me an idealogue when you are still supporting nazi saluting pissed up scum you need to think about how little you care about the UK, and wind your neck in.
So you lied then?
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'Attacking police officers all day' - Beanz
BLM = 30 injured officers and defaced and toppled statues.
Patriots = 6 injured officers and a drunk man weeing on a statue.
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Beanz
Yes you are right. I was mistaken, twice I have voted for Labour in the last 3 years. That of course would never usually be possible but we are under the cosh of the most corrupt and traitorous government in British history who are still it seems after 60,000 dead subjects, making it up as they go along.
If you think that makes me an idealogue when you are still supporting nazi saluting pissed up scum you need to think about how little you care about the UK, and wind your neck in.
So you lied then?
it's one of his tactics
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Not being funny. But that looks staged to.me.
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Beanz
Not being funny. But that looks staged to.me.
good spotting
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Indy said 6, but I guess that is the media for you. There would have been ZERO people protesting had the crazies not come out to begin with on a statue defacing crusade. No need for it. Nobody is getting killed by the British police so no reason to protest in the first place, especially during a social distancing period. Idiots.
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To be fair there would have been many more arrests had the police been doing their work and been equipped last week, but instead found themselves running away. Anything to spin it all your way though I guess.
When it comes to patriots there is little tolerance. When it comes to Communists the entire system from academia, to media to politics is infected. Even the Tories largely perpetuate Blair like policies that continue to destroy the traditional makeup of the UK and along with it perpetuate the ridiculous policing of speech and behavior.
The UK is losing its sense of self due to these things. When even Carl Benjamin struggles to escape the mob you know the UK is in a dark place. The man is looked at as too moderate by many.
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Not being funny. But that looks staged to.me.
good spotting
It was not staged. There are plenty of decent people in the world.
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/sta...88213705297920
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Beanz
Not being funny. But that looks staged to.me.
good spotting
It was not staged. There are plenty of decent people in the world.
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/sta...88213705297920
Yeah and I'm sure there were many decent Jews who the Nazis threw in the oven.
This is the type of image I want 2 c.
https://twitter.com/MuzlamicLaw/stat...63526421254145
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What the absolute fuck.
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There were plenty of Jews who fought and resisted once it became clear what the Nazis were doing.
If i turned up and sparked out a bigoted arsehole it would still not teach most of them anything and they would never change. What would it prove? That i had my first fight 38 years ago? That they are all mouth and no trousers? Waste of energy and intention. After someone goes down, you help him up and shake his hand, you win a moral victory. Sometimes being the bigger man means not standing by while you enemy gets a pasting. These are not men in positions of power, they are mostly boys, like the gobby 30 something alt right soy boys on here, who have achieved so little in life, running around with a gang trying to goad peaceful demonstrators into a fight is their deluded idea of making a contribution to society.
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Who has achieved little in life Beanz? What are your achievements? How would you define achievement?
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beanz would be the one getting sparked out. but he wouldn't be there because he's scared of the sniffles & cares about grandma
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Beanz can talk tough, but it is all talk. He was shitting himself when a 56 year old 5 foot 6 or 7 bloke was saying he would go to Plymouth and find him. Thought he might have to go to prison or something. They are best mates now.
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he just runs his mouth with lies
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"Has nothing to do with slavery. If it did they would be burning mosques. Every statue defiled is a white male and as such an iconic expression of the ongoing white genocide." - Andrew Sarchus.
Spicy, but is it untrue?
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"Has nothing to do with slavery. If it did they would be burning mosques. Every statue defiled is a white male and as such an iconic expression of the ongoing white genocide." - Andrew Sarchus.
Spicy, but is it untrue?
Slavery is just bad all around but certain aspects of it seem to be overlooked or ignored. It’s also still going on today in some countries, why can’t we use this energy to confront that.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/anci...barbary-002171
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"Has nothing to do with slavery. If it did they would be burning mosques. Every statue defiled is a white male and as such an iconic expression of the ongoing white genocide." - Andrew Sarchus. Spicy, but is it untrue?
Slavery is just bad all around but certain aspects of it seem to be overlooked or ignored. It’s also still going on today in some countries, why can’t we use this energy to confront that.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/anci...barbary-002171
Oh, for sure. Blacks and Arabs and Whites all have their history with slavery, so why in white dominated societies is it becoming more of an issue? Partly because of grievance studies and the fact that some groups are not having a good time. I agree that the system needs to be cleaned up, but my solution is not the one they are looking for. My solution is more agency and self responsibility. I would dismantle the safety nets for poor judgment and enough of certain groups coming in. The trouble is the multicultural experiment has not worked and so it must all be the fault of capitalism or slavery why some people refuse to improve themselves. It is nonsense. If you join a society then it is not on that society to change for you, it is on you to adapt to that society. Most non whites and even white migrants to the US have nothing to do with slavery and you either adjust or you do not. If you cannot then maybe there are issues that people are refusing to countenance.
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I've just seen on the news that a protester got arrested for trying to shag the Winston Churchill monument.
I bet they charge him with statue Tory rape
(I'll get my coat)
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I saw a little girl who had a t-shirt that said My Life Matters. It is time to take it there- make it inclusive.
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I disagree there. Joining a society is a two-way street. that society would not be a civil society if it also could not flex to the newcomers' unique needs. It is not just "here come on in sit down. Here are the rules. Now shut up and do as you're told"
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The reason the multicultural experiment did not work is because it was not a multicultural experiment from the beginning. It was a sham from the beginning. The ones who were in charge who started the whole thing had no intentions of anybody assimilating into their culture
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Look at you there even though you are a permanent resident, even though you are married to a native from there, you will always be an outsider and you will never fully assimilate into that culture and society and you know it
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Look at you there even though you are a permanent resident, even though you are married to a native from there, you will always be an outsider and you will never fully assimilate into that culture and society and you know it
Are you talking to me Brock? Yes, I would agree to an extent. That is why making every Ahmed, Javid and Ismael a citizen doesn't really work, especially if he is still in thrall to his own ways. The difference is that I am not building British culture anywhere with the building of thatched cottages or opening pie shops or forcing any stance on other societies I can speak for myself and others in that we are Western and would never pretend to be otherwise.
It has not worked in the West because just putting someone on the land does not make them the same as the others with a shared common collective history. It has been too easy to get the document, but no demands were made. Big mistake! This is one of the reasons everything is about race now as it has not worked. The problems are getting worse and the demands are increasing. Does the host culture owe you? No. It is thus a desperate scramble to look for excuses as to how it is native cultures problem and it just isn't. It is not the fault of the natives that the government spends 120 billion a year on post EU migrants who are a drain. Billions a year are spent on the costs of inbreeding and that is not British culture.
It cannot work and instead of just being honest about the flaws, you instead get nonsense about race every single day. Today Covid is apparently racist. You being in people who add to the country and to ensure the stability of the society make it hard to even be permanent and that ain't citizenship.
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On a phone so being is of course bring. Not bad for a speed type dash post though.