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Maybe "regularly" isn't quite the case. But over the years, there have been a fair few upsets in this kind of mould, where a tough, rugged South American has upset the home fighter or blasted them out unexpectedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
ExamplesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
And then there are even greater numbers of these guys getting shafted on cards :rolleyes:
Sergio Martínez beat our Richard Williams twice before he became well known around the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUKMaybe "regularly" isn't quite the case. But over the years, there have been a fair few upsets in this kind of mould, where a tough, rugged South American has upset the home fighter or blasted them out unexpectedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44ExamplesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
And then there are even greater numbers of these guys getting shafted on cards :rolleyes:
Examples pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUKMaybe "regularly" isn't quite the case. But over the years, there have been a fair few upsets in this kind of mould, where a tough, rugged South American has upset the home fighter or blasted them out unexpectedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44ExamplesQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
And then there are even greater numbers of these guys getting shafted on cards :rolleyes:
Just to be clear- are we suggesting that it happens in the UK to UK fighters more often than in other parts of the world to fighters from other parts of the world?
p.s. sergio martinez is a crap example because he became one of the global elite, we are looking for tough rugged (limited) South American upsetters
ill give you an example from another part of the world, Carlos Baldomir UD Zab Judah
Not sure if the op was suggesting that or not. I would imagine it happens everywhere equally.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Examples pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUK
Just to be clear- are we suggesting that it happens in the UK to UK fighters more often than in other parts of the world to fighters from other parts of the world?
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Originally Posted by erics44
I didn't mean to limit it to JUST fighters from South America, but any who come from abroad with limited knowledge of them often from tough parts of the world....
Prescott starching Khan is the one that jumps out immediately.
Kiko Martinez went over to Ireland as an unknown and blasted unbeaten touted prospect Gernard Dunne inside a round.
He was UK based but Mongolian Tseveenpurev knocked out the unbeaten Derry Mathews
Roman Martinez came over and beat Nicky Cook early in his career, though he may very well have been the favourite
Frankie Gavin beaten by Leonard Bundu
Wasn't Kovalev something of an unknown when he knocked out Nathan Cleverley?
The ultimate journeyman Youssef Al Hamidi handed Anthony Crolla his first loss
I didn’t think Lara was that impressive. Slow footed, lots of amazingly novice mistakes - punching out of range, crossing his feet.
Warrington looked like he didn’t want to be there from the start. Came in cold, no sweat on, kept glancing at Lara across the ring. Once the bell rang, he looked like a club fighter who couldn’t punch hard.
Classy by Lara, making sure Warrington was getting medical attention and not celebrating.
some good examplesQuote:
Originally Posted by TonnnnUK
Although i dont think any of them really come in the category of unknown limited fighter coming to the UK and surprising a UK prospect
Prescott Khan maybe but Prescott had 18 fights and 18 KOs and khan was seen as chinny back then so i think everyone thought it was a big test
i did at least, i was in Venice when that happened so didnt watch it live, had to find an internet cafe to watch it the next day, must have been before the time of smart phones
Eddie Hearn said that the rematch will happen later this year at Headingley Cricket Ground in Leeds. That should help Josh with a full crowd.