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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
it's okay for you to believe what you believe. it's not okay for you to demand others believe what you believe. sounds like your trying to convince someone of your belief
I'm not, TIC. And I haven't for a long time. But the door swings both ways on this.
like i said, believe what you want to believe. i'm not interested in your belief, only what you can prove to be true
I'm not interested in your belief either. Hence... the swinging door. ;)
it's not my job to prove your belief is real
and it's not mine to prove yours
(See how easy that was?) ;)
you have the belief that something is real, not me. you either believe something is real or you prove something is real. you are unable to prove your belief so that is what you hold, a belief. like someone who believes they have super powers, it's not my job to prove they don't. there is no belief on my part in the discussion
You don't get to set the rules. You believe COVID's not real. That's a belief.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
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Beanz
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TIC
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Beanz
Let's be clear here. TIC is a liar.
He claims to only be interested in what you can prove to be true but then refuses to consider any kind of evidence.
What he really wants, is to have his bias and his childish beliefs in conspiracy theories, that make him think he is better than everyone here, confirmed.
Calling a virus that has affected everyone here 'convid' and then claiming 'the scam is over' is not a neutral position that respects anyone's acquired knowledge. It is an arrogant demand to be treated differently and to give presidency to beliefs over knowledge.
His insistence that scientific consensus is not evidence, is not so different to claims made by flat earthers or religious crackpots.
you have been proven a liar over & over spergy larry. you haven't provided any evidence of the scientific method you used to prove your belief. all i want is for you to prove your belief. & we both know you can't or you would have done so already. the problem is you can't admit you only hold a belief & faith in authority. scientific consensus is another fallacy. i am asking you to prove your belief
Ask away numbnuts for all the good it will do you. Scientific concensus is not a fallacy, far from it. It is the wheel that progress was built upon. It has given you and everyone else the kind of security and unimaginable diverse range of experiences and benefits that generations before us could not even dream about. You are and always have been the one who the onus falls to prove your pseudo scientific psychobabble.
You are not able to understand the rules of engagement and so have no right to anything. You don't even understand what a logical fallacy is.
The Scientific method is not a set of rules you can follow to carry out a one off experiment, it is the method by which knowledge is gathered by questioning, experimenting and proving again and again, something you as a clueless twat waffle are still struggling to comprehend. The argument was won months ago and all you have is your belief and repeated lies.
You say you want people to prove their belief when you will not accept any kind of evidence whatsoever. Anyone can make vague, unobservable claims that are unfalsifiable but we all have rock solid verifiable knowledge to explain what you are too dense to absorb.
There are no plausible mechanisms that allow for your extraordinairy exaggerated claims to be explained using existing knowledge and so they can be ignored by anyone with even just a little common sense.
talking about consensus is nothing you have personally done. this discussion is between you & i. if you haven't verified the claims yourself then you only have faith that they are true. that is a belief you spastic. i never said anything about a one off experiment spergy larry. give me everything you have done to test the claim & prove it to be true. then i should be able to repeat everything you have done & prove it true as well. you have already admitted that you haven't done anything & only have faith & trust in others, that is why you keep using fallacies & talking about what others have done. see i believe i could beat your wife in a hundred metre sprint with me on my knees but until i did so it is only a belief. once i did we would know that i was able to. watching you sperg gives me great pleasure & i love that you are a sucker for punishment cause you will be treated this way every time i reply to you. talk soon retard
It is amazing that this kind of crap is allowed to roll here still.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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TitoFan
it's okay for you to believe what you believe. it's not okay for you to demand others believe what you believe. sounds like your trying to convince someone of your belief
I'm not, TIC. And I haven't for a long time. But the door swings both ways on this.
like i said, believe what you want to believe. i'm not interested in your belief, only what you can prove to be true
I'm not interested in your belief either. Hence... the swinging door. ;)
it's not my job to prove your belief is real
and it's not mine to prove yours
(See how easy that was?) ;)
you have the belief that something is real, not me. you either believe something is real or you prove something is real. you are unable to prove your belief so that is what you hold, a belief. like someone who believes they have super powers, it's not my job to prove they don't. there is no belief on my part in the discussion
You don't get to set the rules. You believe COVID's not real. That's a belief.
wrong. someone claimed covid is a virus caught from outside the body from person to person, through the air or off surfaces. you believe that claim to be true. i am asking you how you know & what you have done to prove that to be true. you have alreay admitted you only hold a belief. no problem with that. point is without an initial claim being made there is nothing for me to ask for proof of. asking for proof is not holding a belief
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Let's be clear here. TIC is a liar.
He claims to only be interested in what you can prove to be true but then refuses to consider any kind of evidence.
What he really wants, is to have his bias and his childish beliefs in conspiracy theories, that make him think he is better than everyone here, confirmed.
Calling a virus that has affected everyone here 'convid' and then claiming 'the scam is over' is not a neutral position that respects anyone's acquired knowledge. It is an arrogant demand to be treated differently and to give presidency to beliefs over knowledge.
His insistence that scientific consensus is not evidence, is not so different to claims made by flat earthers or religious crackpots.
you have been proven a liar over & over spergy larry. you haven't provided any evidence of the scientific method you used to prove your belief. all i want is for you to prove your belief. & we both know you can't or you would have done so already. the problem is you can't admit you only hold a belief & faith in authority. scientific consensus is another fallacy. i am asking you to prove your belief
Ask away numbnuts for all the good it will do you. Scientific concensus is not a fallacy, far from it. It is the wheel that progress was built upon. It has given you and everyone else the kind of security and unimaginable diverse range of experiences and benefits that generations before us could not even dream about. You are and always have been the one who the onus falls to prove your pseudo scientific psychobabble.
You are not able to understand the rules of engagement and so have no right to anything. You don't even understand what a logical fallacy is.
The Scientific method is not a set of rules you can follow to carry out a one off experiment, it is the method by which knowledge is gathered by questioning, experimenting and proving again and again, something you as a clueless twat waffle are still struggling to comprehend. The argument was won months ago and all you have is your belief and repeated lies.
You say you want people to prove their belief when you will not accept any kind of evidence whatsoever. Anyone can make vague, unobservable claims that are unfalsifiable but we all have rock solid verifiable knowledge to explain what you are too dense to absorb.
There are no plausible mechanisms that allow for your extraordinairy exaggerated claims to be explained using existing knowledge and so they can be ignored by anyone with even just a little common sense.
talking about consensus is nothing you have personally done. this discussion is between you & i. if you haven't verified the claims yourself then you only have faith that they are true. that is a belief you spastic. i never said anything about a one off experiment spergy larry. give me everything you have done to test the claim & prove it to be true. then i should be able to repeat everything you have done & prove it true as well. you have already admitted that you haven't done anything & only have faith & trust in others, that is why you keep using fallacies & talking about what others have done. see i believe i could beat your wife in a hundred metre sprint with me on my knees but until i did so it is only a belief. once i did we would know that i was able to. watching you sperg gives me great pleasure & i love that you are a sucker for punishment cause you will be treated this way every time i reply to you. talk soon retard
It is amazing that this kind of crap is allowed to roll here still.
you deserve everything you get you nasty little sperg. they have allowed wishing people will die, admitted threats, giving medical advice & a whole lot more. the mods should be applauded for allowing free speech. you are the problem & here you are trying to cancel & censor someone. if you don't want to read it you can use ignore or scroll right on past. no one is forcing you to engage or to even be here. sadly for you like i said you are a sucker for punishment & crave the abuse & like the retard you are you continue to come back for more. so open up wide spastic & i'll talk to you soon sweetie
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
it's okay for you to believe what you believe. it's not okay for you to demand others believe what you believe. sounds like your trying to convince someone of your belief
I'm not, TIC. And I haven't for a long time. But the door swings both ways on this.
like i said, believe what you want to believe. i'm not interested in your belief, only what you can prove to be true
I'm not interested in your belief either. Hence... the swinging door. ;)
it's not my job to prove your belief is real
and it's not mine to prove yours
(See how easy that was?) ;)
you have the belief that something is real, not me. you either believe something is real or you prove something is real. you are unable to prove your belief so that is what you hold, a belief. like someone who believes they have super powers, it's not my job to prove they don't. there is no belief on my part in the discussion
You don't get to set the rules. You believe COVID's not real. That's a belief.
wrong. someone claimed covid is a virus caught from outside the body from person to person, through the air or off surfaces. you believe that claim to be true. i am asking you how you know & what you have done to prove that to be true. you have alreay admitted you only hold a belief. no problem with that. point is without an initial claim being made there is nothing for me to ask for proof of. asking for proof is not holding a belief
"Someone claimed"?? :D :rolleyes:
"Someone claimed" can be applied to "the Earth is flat", and other such nonsense. This is a global pandemic, the existence of which has been verified by thousands upon thousands of professionals with more studies in one little pinky than you and I have in our whole beings. And once again you go with your "cut/paste" of "caught from outside the body from person to person, through the air or off surfaces." :rolleyes: It sounds funny when you keep repeating the same words. If I didn't know any better... I'd say you were programmed or brainwashed to utter those words over and over again.
Your not admitting that yours is actually a belief totally undermines any shred of credibility you may be trying to build.
Again... you don't make the rules of engagement. You can't claim that adhering to common knowledge is the "belief", while your cockamamie conspiracy theories are not.
Really. :rolleyes:
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
it's okay for you to believe what you believe. it's not okay for you to demand others believe what you believe. sounds like your trying to convince someone of your belief
I'm not, TIC. And I haven't for a long time. But the door swings both ways on this.
like i said, believe what you want to believe. i'm not interested in your belief, only what you can prove to be true
I'm not interested in your belief either. Hence... the swinging door. ;)
it's not my job to prove your belief is real
and it's not mine to prove yours
(See how easy that was?) ;)
you have the belief that something is real, not me. you either believe something is real or you prove something is real. you are unable to prove your belief so that is what you hold, a belief. like someone who believes they have super powers, it's not my job to prove they don't. there is no belief on my part in the discussion
You don't get to set the rules. You believe COVID's not real. That's a belief.
wrong. someone claimed covid is a virus caught from outside the body from person to person, through the air or off surfaces. you believe that claim to be true. i am asking you how you know & what you have done to prove that to be true. you have alreay admitted you only hold a belief. no problem with that. point is without an initial claim being made there is nothing for me to ask for proof of. asking for proof is not holding a belief
"Someone claimed"?? :D :rolleyes:
"Someone claimed" can be applied to
"the Earth is flat", and other such nonsense. This is a global pandemic, the existence of which has been verified by thousands upon thousands of professionals with more studies in one little pinky than you and I have in our whole beings. And once again you go with your "cut/paste" of
"caught from outside the body from person to person, through the air or off surfaces." :rolleyes: It sounds funny when you keep repeating the same words. If I didn't know any better... I'd say you were programmed or brainwashed to utter those words over and over again.
Your not admitting that yours is actually a belief totally undermines any shred of credibility you may be trying to build.
Again... you don't make the rules of engagement. You can't claim that adhering to common knowledge is the "belief", while your cockamamie conspiracy theories are not.
Really. :rolleyes:
more fallacies. the professionals are not you proving your belief. without a claim there is nothing for me to ask for proof of. if it's common knowledge then why can't you give me examples of what you have tested to prove the claim is true?
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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TitoFan
it's okay for you to believe what you believe. it's not okay for you to demand others believe what you believe. sounds like your trying to convince someone of your belief
I'm not, TIC. And I haven't for a long time. But the door swings both ways on this.
like i said, believe what you want to believe. i'm not interested in your belief, only what you can prove to be true
I'm not interested in your belief either. Hence... the swinging door. ;)
it's not my job to prove your belief is real
and it's not mine to prove yours
(See how easy that was?) ;)
you have the belief that something is real, not me. you either believe something is real or you prove something is real. you are unable to prove your belief so that is what you hold, a belief. like someone who believes they have super powers, it's not my job to prove they don't. there is no belief on my part in the discussion
You don't get to set the rules. You believe COVID's not real. That's a belief.
wrong. someone claimed covid is a virus caught from outside the body from person to person, through the air or off surfaces. you believe that claim to be true. i am asking you how you know & what you have done to prove that to be true. you have alreay admitted you only hold a belief. no problem with that. point is without an initial claim being made there is nothing for me to ask for proof of. asking for proof is not holding a belief
"Someone claimed"?? :D :rolleyes:
"Someone claimed" can be applied to
"the Earth is flat", and other such nonsense. This is a global pandemic, the existence of which has been verified by thousands upon thousands of professionals with more studies in one little pinky than you and I have in our whole beings. And once again you go with your "cut/paste" of
"caught from outside the body from person to person, through the air or off surfaces." :rolleyes: It sounds funny when you keep repeating the same words. If I didn't know any better... I'd say you were programmed or brainwashed to utter those words over and over again.
Your not admitting that yours is actually a belief totally undermines any shred of credibility you may be trying to build.
Again... you don't make the rules of engagement. You can't claim that adhering to common knowledge is the "belief", while your cockamamie conspiracy theories are not.
Really. :rolleyes:
more fallacies. the professionals are not you proving your belief.
without a claim there is nothing for me to ask for proof of. if it's common knowledge then why can't you give me examples of what you have tested to prove the claim is true?
You claim COVID doesn't exist. I want proof.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
how can i have claimed covid doesn't exist if the initial claim that covid is real wasn't made? can you prove the initial claim? oh that's right you have already admitted that you only hold a belief in the initial claim
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
how can i have claimed covid doesn't exist if the initial claim that covid is real wasn't made? can you prove the initial claim? oh that's right you have already admitted that you only hold a belief in the initial claim
Denying a claim is also a claim. But it's no big deal. We're splitting hairs at this point.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TitoFan
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TIC
how can i have claimed covid doesn't exist if the initial claim that covid is real wasn't made? can you prove the initial claim? oh that's right you have already admitted that you only hold a belief in the initial claim
Denying a claim is also a claim. But it's no big deal. We're splitting hairs at this point.
the onus is on those making the claim to prove it to be true
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
if i said i was fucking your mum, you would want me to prove it to be true
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
if i said i was fucking your mum, you would want me to prove it to be true
No. I would want you to come over and tell it to me personally.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
how can i have claimed covid doesn't exist if the initial claim that covid is real wasn't made? can you prove the initial claim? oh that's right you have already admitted that you only hold a belief in the initial claim
Denying a claim is also a claim. But it's no big deal. We're splitting hairs at this point.
the onus is on those making the claim to prove it to be true
I already told you. You don't get to make those rules.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
if i said i was fucking your mum, you would want me to prove it to be true
I'd really be fine with not seeing the proof :S
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
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Beanz
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TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Let's be clear here. TIC is a liar.
He claims to only be interested in what you can prove to be true but then refuses to consider any kind of evidence.
What he really wants, is to have his bias and his childish beliefs in conspiracy theories, that make him think he is better than everyone here, confirmed.
Calling a virus that has affected everyone here 'convid' and then claiming 'the scam is over' is not a neutral position that respects anyone's acquired knowledge. It is an arrogant demand to be treated differently and to give presidency to beliefs over knowledge.
His insistence that scientific consensus is not evidence, is not so different to claims made by flat earthers or religious crackpots.
you have been proven a liar over & over spergy larry. you haven't provided any evidence of the scientific method you used to prove your belief. all i want is for you to prove your belief. & we both know you can't or you would have done so already. the problem is you can't admit you only hold a belief & faith in authority. scientific consensus is another fallacy. i am asking you to prove your belief
Ask away numbnuts for all the good it will do you. Scientific concensus is not a fallacy, far from it. It is the wheel that progress was built upon. It has given you and everyone else the kind of security and unimaginable diverse range of experiences and benefits that generations before us could not even dream about. You are and always have been the one who the onus falls to prove your pseudo scientific psychobabble.
You are not able to understand the rules of engagement and so have no right to anything. You don't even understand what a logical fallacy is.
The Scientific method is not a set of rules you can follow to carry out a one off experiment, it is the method by which knowledge is gathered by questioning, experimenting and proving again and again, something you as a clueless twat waffle are still struggling to comprehend. The argument was won months ago and all you have is your belief and repeated lies.
You say you want people to prove their belief when you will not accept any kind of evidence whatsoever. Anyone can make vague, unobservable claims that are unfalsifiable but we all have rock solid verifiable knowledge to explain what you are too dense to absorb.
There are no plausible mechanisms that allow for your extraordinairy exaggerated claims to be explained using existing knowledge and so they can be ignored by anyone with even just a little common sense.
talking about consensus is nothing you have personally done. this discussion is between you & i. if you haven't verified the claims yourself then you only have faith that they are true. that is a belief you spastic. i never said anything about a one off experiment spergy larry. give me everything you have done to test the claim & prove it to be true. then i should be able to repeat everything you have done & prove it true as well. you have already admitted that you haven't done anything & only have faith & trust in others, that is why you keep using fallacies & talking about what others have done. see i believe i could beat your wife in a hundred metre sprint with me on my knees but until i did so it is only a belief. once i did we would know that i was able to. watching you sperg gives me great pleasure & i love that you are a sucker for punishment cause you will be treated this way every time i reply to you. talk soon retard
It is amazing that this kind of crap is allowed to roll here still.
you deserve everything you get you nasty little sperg. they have allowed wishing people will die, admitted threats, giving medical advice & a whole lot more. the mods should be applauded for allowing free speech. you are the problem & here you are trying to cancel & censor someone. if you don't want to read it you can use ignore or scroll right on past. no one is forcing you to engage or to even be here. sadly for you like i said you are a sucker for punishment & crave the abuse & like the retard you are you continue to come back for more. so open up wide spastic & i'll talk to you soon sweetie
There is nothing nasty in anything I have said to you. I have kept it perfectly civil and not resorted to the childish spiteful personal ad hominem stuff you have stooped to in the absence of any cogent argument.
Nobody is trying to cancel or censor you but there is no excuse for mentioning people's names, families, and using terms like spastic, retard and sperg as though disabilities are something to laugh about.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
if i said i was fucking your mum, you would want me to prove it to be true
No. I would want you to come over and tell it to me personally.
would you believe it's true if i just told you? doubt it
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
how can i have claimed covid doesn't exist if the initial claim that covid is real wasn't made? can you prove the initial claim? oh that's right you have already admitted that you only hold a belief in the initial claim
Denying a claim is also a claim. But it's no big deal. We're splitting hairs at this point.
the onus is on those making the claim to prove it to be true
I already told you. You don't get to make those rules.
unfortunately the burden of proof doesn't work that way. if you want to prove something you believe is real then you need to prove it
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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palmerq
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TIC
if i said i was fucking your mum, you would want me to prove it to be true
I'd really be fine with not seeing the proof :S
exactly you would need to see the proof. with deep fakes & photo shop around only plowing his mum directly in front of him would be acceptable proof of the claim
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Let's be clear here. TIC is a liar.
He claims to only be interested in what you can prove to be true but then refuses to consider any kind of evidence.
What he really wants, is to have his bias and his childish beliefs in conspiracy theories, that make him think he is better than everyone here, confirmed.
Calling a virus that has affected everyone here 'convid' and then claiming 'the scam is over' is not a neutral position that respects anyone's acquired knowledge. It is an arrogant demand to be treated differently and to give presidency to beliefs over knowledge.
His insistence that scientific consensus is not evidence, is not so different to claims made by flat earthers or religious crackpots.
you have been proven a liar over & over spergy larry. you haven't provided any evidence of the scientific method you used to prove your belief. all i want is for you to prove your belief. & we both know you can't or you would have done so already. the problem is you can't admit you only hold a belief & faith in authority. scientific consensus is another fallacy. i am asking you to prove your belief
Ask away numbnuts for all the good it will do you. Scientific concensus is not a fallacy, far from it. It is the wheel that progress was built upon. It has given you and everyone else the kind of security and unimaginable diverse range of experiences and benefits that generations before us could not even dream about. You are and always have been the one who the onus falls to prove your pseudo scientific psychobabble.
You are not able to understand the rules of engagement and so have no right to anything. You don't even understand what a logical fallacy is.
The Scientific method is not a set of rules you can follow to carry out a one off experiment, it is the method by which knowledge is gathered by questioning, experimenting and proving again and again, something you as a clueless twat waffle are still struggling to comprehend. The argument was won months ago and all you have is your belief and repeated lies.
You say you want people to prove their belief when you will not accept any kind of evidence whatsoever. Anyone can make vague, unobservable claims that are unfalsifiable but we all have rock solid verifiable knowledge to explain what you are too dense to absorb.
There are no plausible mechanisms that allow for your extraordinairy exaggerated claims to be explained using existing knowledge and so they can be ignored by anyone with even just a little common sense.
talking about consensus is nothing you have personally done. this discussion is between you & i. if you haven't verified the claims yourself then you only have faith that they are true. that is a belief you spastic. i never said anything about a one off experiment spergy larry. give me everything you have done to test the claim & prove it to be true. then i should be able to repeat everything you have done & prove it true as well. you have already admitted that you haven't done anything & only have faith & trust in others, that is why you keep using fallacies & talking about what others have done. see i believe i could beat your wife in a hundred metre sprint with me on my knees but until i did so it is only a belief. once i did we would know that i was able to. watching you sperg gives me great pleasure & i love that you are a sucker for punishment cause you will be treated this way every time i reply to you. talk soon retard
It is amazing that this kind of crap is allowed to roll here still.
you deserve everything you get you nasty little sperg. they have allowed wishing people will die, admitted threats, giving medical advice & a whole lot more. the mods should be applauded for allowing free speech. you are the problem & here you are trying to cancel & censor someone. if you don't want to read it you can use ignore or scroll right on past. no one is forcing you to engage or to even be here. sadly for you like i said you are a sucker for punishment & crave the abuse & like the retard you are you continue to come back for more. so open up wide spastic & i'll talk to you soon sweetie
There is nothing nasty in anything I have said to you. I have kept it perfectly civil and not resorted to the childish spiteful personal ad hominem stuff you have stooped to in the absence of any cogent argument.
Nobody is trying to cancel or censor you but there is no excuse for mentioning people's names, families, and using terms like spastic, retard and sperg as though disabilities are something to laugh about.
stop playing the victim you spastic. you started with the insults & now have to live with it. there is no argument on my side. i am asking you to prove your belief. all you have done is use logical fallacies because you can't prove your belief is true. you are trying to control how i post because you can't handle the heat that you started. that is censoring. there is an ignore button there for a reason. use it or harder up retard
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TIC
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Beanz
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TIC
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Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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TIC
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Beanz
Let's be clear here. TIC is a liar.
He claims to only be interested in what you can prove to be true but then refuses to consider any kind of evidence.
What he really wants, is to have his bias and his childish beliefs in conspiracy theories, that make him think he is better than everyone here, confirmed.
Calling a virus that has affected everyone here 'convid' and then claiming 'the scam is over' is not a neutral position that respects anyone's acquired knowledge. It is an arrogant demand to be treated differently and to give presidency to beliefs over knowledge.
His insistence that scientific consensus is not evidence, is not so different to claims made by flat earthers or religious crackpots.
you have been proven a liar over & over spergy larry. you haven't provided any evidence of the scientific method you used to prove your belief. all i want is for you to prove your belief. & we both know you can't or you would have done so already. the problem is you can't admit you only hold a belief & faith in authority. scientific consensus is another fallacy. i am asking you to prove your belief
Ask away numbnuts for all the good it will do you. Scientific concensus is not a fallacy, far from it. It is the wheel that progress was built upon. It has given you and everyone else the kind of security and unimaginable diverse range of experiences and benefits that generations before us could not even dream about. You are and always have been the one who the onus falls to prove your pseudo scientific psychobabble.
You are not able to understand the rules of engagement and so have no right to anything. You don't even understand what a logical fallacy is.
The Scientific method is not a set of rules you can follow to carry out a one off experiment, it is the method by which knowledge is gathered by questioning, experimenting and proving again and again, something you as a clueless twat waffle are still struggling to comprehend. The argument was won months ago and all you have is your belief and repeated lies.
You say you want people to prove their belief when you will not accept any kind of evidence whatsoever. Anyone can make vague, unobservable claims that are unfalsifiable but we all have rock solid verifiable knowledge to explain what you are too dense to absorb.
There are no plausible mechanisms that allow for your extraordinairy exaggerated claims to be explained using existing knowledge and so they can be ignored by anyone with even just a little common sense.
talking about consensus is nothing you have personally done. this discussion is between you & i. if you haven't verified the claims yourself then you only have faith that they are true. that is a belief you spastic. i never said anything about a one off experiment spergy larry. give me everything you have done to test the claim & prove it to be true. then i should be able to repeat everything you have done & prove it true as well. you have already admitted that you haven't done anything & only have faith & trust in others, that is why you keep using fallacies & talking about what others have done. see i believe i could beat your wife in a hundred metre sprint with me on my knees but until i did so it is only a belief. once i did we would know that i was able to. watching you sperg gives me great pleasure & i love that you are a sucker for punishment cause you will be treated this way every time i reply to you. talk soon retard
It is amazing that this kind of crap is allowed to roll here still.
you deserve everything you get you nasty little sperg. they have allowed wishing people will die, admitted threats, giving medical advice & a whole lot more. the mods should be applauded for allowing free speech. you are the problem & here you are trying to cancel & censor someone. if you don't want to read it you can use ignore or scroll right on past. no one is forcing you to engage or to even be here. sadly for you like i said you are a sucker for punishment & crave the abuse & like the retard you are you continue to come back for more. so open up wide spastic & i'll talk to you soon sweetie
There is nothing nasty in anything I have said to you. I have kept it perfectly civil and not resorted to the childish spiteful personal ad hominem stuff you have stooped to in the absence of any cogent argument.
Nobody is trying to cancel or censor you but there is no excuse for mentioning people's names, families, and using terms like spastic, retard and sperg as though disabilities are something to laugh about.
stop playing the victim you spastic. you started with the insults & now have to live with it. there is no argument on my side. i am asking you to prove your belief. all you have done is use logical fallacies because you can't prove your belief is true. you are trying to control how i post because you can't handle the heat that you started. that is censoring. there is an ignore button there for a reason. use it or harder up retard
All he's asking is for you to keep it civil. Surely not too much to ask. Who cares who "started it"? That's a childish argument for wanting to keep up hostilities in an argument.
That was point # 1.
Point # 2 is that it's been "beaten into the ground" that no one here is trying to convince you of anything.
I honestly don't think anyone here really gives a shit what you believe.
So your insistence that anyone has to (cough) "prove" anything to you is puzzling. Obviously ignored... but puzzling.
Why can't you just leave it as is?
You think one way... the rest of civilization thinks another.
Forget onuses or burdens or any such crap.
Everyone is free to think what they want, and you've obviously made your decision a long time ago.
Luckily, the world doesn't revolve around what you think.
Sound fair to you?
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Beanz
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TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
Beanz
Let's be clear here. TIC is a liar.
He claims to only be interested in what you can prove to be true but then refuses to consider any kind of evidence.
What he really wants, is to have his bias and his childish beliefs in conspiracy theories, that make him think he is better than everyone here, confirmed.
Calling a virus that has affected everyone here 'convid' and then claiming 'the scam is over' is not a neutral position that respects anyone's acquired knowledge. It is an arrogant demand to be treated differently and to give presidency to beliefs over knowledge.
His insistence that scientific consensus is not evidence, is not so different to claims made by flat earthers or religious crackpots.
you have been proven a liar over & over spergy larry. you haven't provided any evidence of the scientific method you used to prove your belief. all i want is for you to prove your belief. & we both know you can't or you would have done so already. the problem is you can't admit you only hold a belief & faith in authority. scientific consensus is another fallacy. i am asking you to prove your belief
Ask away numbnuts for all the good it will do you. Scientific concensus is not a fallacy, far from it. It is the wheel that progress was built upon. It has given you and everyone else the kind of security and unimaginable diverse range of experiences and benefits that generations before us could not even dream about. You are and always have been the one who the onus falls to prove your pseudo scientific psychobabble.
You are not able to understand the rules of engagement and so have no right to anything. You don't even understand what a logical fallacy is.
The Scientific method is not a set of rules you can follow to carry out a one off experiment, it is the method by which knowledge is gathered by questioning, experimenting and proving again and again, something you as a clueless twat waffle are still struggling to comprehend. The argument was won months ago and all you have is your belief and repeated lies.
You say you want people to prove their belief when you will not accept any kind of evidence whatsoever. Anyone can make vague, unobservable claims that are unfalsifiable but we all have rock solid verifiable knowledge to explain what you are too dense to absorb.
There are no plausible mechanisms that allow for your extraordinairy exaggerated claims to be explained using existing knowledge and so they can be ignored by anyone with even just a little common sense.
talking about consensus is nothing you have personally done. this discussion is between you & i. if you haven't verified the claims yourself then you only have faith that they are true. that is a belief you spastic. i never said anything about a one off experiment spergy larry. give me everything you have done to test the claim & prove it to be true. then i should be able to repeat everything you have done & prove it true as well. you have already admitted that you haven't done anything & only have faith & trust in others, that is why you keep using fallacies & talking about what others have done. see i believe i could beat your wife in a hundred metre sprint with me on my knees but until i did so it is only a belief. once i did we would know that i was able to. watching you sperg gives me great pleasure & i love that you are a sucker for punishment cause you will be treated this way every time i reply to you. talk soon retard
It is amazing that this kind of crap is allowed to roll here still.
you deserve everything you get you nasty little sperg. they have allowed wishing people will die, admitted threats, giving medical advice & a whole lot more. the mods should be applauded for allowing free speech. you are the problem & here you are trying to cancel & censor someone. if you don't want to read it you can use ignore or scroll right on past. no one is forcing you to engage or to even be here. sadly for you like i said you are a sucker for punishment & crave the abuse & like the retard you are you continue to come back for more. so open up wide spastic & i'll talk to you soon sweetie
There is nothing nasty in anything I have said to you. I have kept it perfectly civil and not resorted to the childish spiteful personal ad hominem stuff you have stooped to in the absence of any cogent argument.
Nobody is trying to cancel or censor you but there is no excuse for mentioning people's names, families, and using terms like spastic, retard and sperg as though disabilities are something to laugh about.
stop playing the victim you spastic. you started with the insults & now have to live with it. there is no argument on my side. i am asking you to prove your belief. all you have done is use logical fallacies because you can't prove your belief is true. you are trying to control how i post because you can't handle the heat that you started. that is censoring. there is an ignore button there for a reason. use it or harder up retard
All he's asking is for you to keep it civil. Surely not too much to ask. Who
cares who "started it"? That's a childish argument for wanting to keep up hostilities in an argument.
That was point # 1.
Point # 2 is that it's been
"beaten into the ground" that no one here is trying to convince you of anything.
I honestly don't think anyone here really gives a shit what you believe.
So your insistence that anyone has to (cough)
"prove" anything to you is puzzling.
Obviously ignored... but puzzling.
Why can't you just leave it as is?
You think one way... the rest of civilization thinks another.
Forget onuses or burdens or any such crap.
Everyone is free to think what they want, and you've obviously made your decision a long time ago.
Luckily, the world doesn't revolve around what you think.
Sound fair to you?
larry the sperg wants to keep it civil when it suits him. you treat larry how you feel he should be treated & i'll treat him how i feel he should be treated. you were the one wanting to continue the covid dialogue i this thread. i said i was wanting to focus on what might be next. you wanted to continue. no one needs to prove their belief. just admit it is only a belief or prove it is real. you can forget onuses & burdens. i will continue to hold those making claims to their responsibility. everyone is free to believe what they want. if they want to claim that belief is real it needs to be proven. i've never said the world revolves around me. just asked people to prove their claims are real. sound fair?
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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Originally Posted by
TIC
larry the sperg wants to keep it civil when it suits him. you treat larry how you feel he should be treated & i'll treat him how i feel he should be treated. you were the one wanting to continue the covid dialogue i this thread. i said i was wanting to focus on what might be next. you wanted to continue. no one needs to prove their belief. just admit it is only a belief or prove it is real. you can forget onuses & burdens. i will continue to hold those making claims to their responsibility. everyone is free to believe what they want. if they want to claim that belief is real it needs to be proven. i've never said the world revolves around me. just asked people to prove their claims are real. sound fair?
Just an observation... but you see to have a huge chip on your shoulder. It shows with everything you post. Why the aggressiveness? No one here is trying to change your mind about anything. Just realize that no one is changing their own minds based on what you say, either. So it's pretty much a stalemate in that regard.
You don't want to talk about COVID, and would rather concentrate on other things you call "scams"? Please... go right ahead. I already made my own point in that I don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy.
I'm a "middle-ground" type of guy, in that I don't believe everything the media says... but I also don't automatically discard everything the media says. I take things on their own merit, using my common sense, experience, and putting different amounts of weight on what others say, based on their amount of expertise. If "Joe Blow" puts something out there as factual, I'm less inclined to believe it than if it is said by a known expert in the field. And this applies to just about everything... not just COVID.
I also don't limit my knowledge and beliefs solely to those I can "perform experiments myself", as I'm realistic enough to know I don't own a microbiology lab, a physics lab, an observatory, nor have I ever flown into space. Most of the classes I ever took in school taught me things I never experienced myself. Yet I don't question EVERYTHING. I choose what to question and what not to. But that's just me.
But back to your defensiveness... I think if you took a deep breath and approached the forum and its posters with an open mind and open to dialogue... you'd be surprised at how different things would go.
This isn't a pissing contest. It's an Internet forum.
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Tito, it’s actually a lot easier than you think to set up a microbiology lab. As you probably know, I did exactly that quite recently to prove that COVID exists and that you can catch it from surfaces and through the air.
All I needed was my garage (and once I rearranged my shelving in there, it worked brilliantly), some COVID, a sieve and a lot of finesse and patience. Oh, a camera phone and a tramp too.
The experiment opened my mind a lot, and I have got much better at it now. In fact, I am currently investigating the effects of 5G signal at the moment, so rest assured I can put any doubts or controversies about that to bed soon.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
Ukraine joining NATO and Putin's Russia starting world war 3.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
You're right Master. If only we had invested in new 5G masts all along the Russian border. We wouldn't be in this mess now.
There is no way that Putin would have massed all those soldiers there with the danger from all that 5G.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
larry the sperg wants to keep it civil when it suits him. you treat larry how you feel he should be treated & i'll treat him how i feel he should be treated. you were the one wanting to continue the covid dialogue i this thread. i said i was wanting to focus on what might be next. you wanted to continue. no one needs to prove their belief. just admit it is only a belief or prove it is real. you can forget onuses & burdens. i will continue to hold those making claims to their responsibility. everyone is free to believe what they want. if they want to claim that belief is real it needs to be proven. i've never said the world revolves around me. just asked people to prove their claims are real. sound fair?
Just an observation... but you see to have a
huge chip on your shoulder. It shows with everything you post. Why the aggressiveness? No one here is trying to change your mind about anything. Just realize that no one is changing their own minds based on what you say, either. So it's pretty much a stalemate in that regard.
You don't want to talk about COVID, and would rather concentrate on other things you call "scams"? Please... go right ahead. I already made my own point in that I don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy.
I'm a "middle-ground" type of guy, in that I don't believe everything the media says... but I also don't automatically discard everything the media says. I take things on their own merit, using my common sense, experience, and putting different amounts of weight on what others say, based on their amount of expertise. If "Joe Blow" puts something out there as factual, I'm less inclined to believe it than if it is said by a known expert in the field. And this applies to just about everything... not just COVID.
I also don't limit my knowledge and beliefs solely to those I can "perform experiments myself", as I'm realistic enough to know I don't own a microbiology lab, a physics lab, an observatory, nor have I ever flown into space. Most of the classes I ever took in school taught me things I never experienced myself. Yet I don't question EVERYTHING. I
choose what to question and what not to. But that's just me.
But back to your defensiveness... I think if you took a deep breath and approached the forum and its posters with an open mind and open to dialogue... you'd be surprised at how different things would go.
This isn't a pissing contest. It's an Internet forum.
no chip & no aggressiveness. i'm not asking anyone to change their minds. just to prove their beliefs if they claim them to be real. i have no problem talking about convid but it will just highlight again & again that you only hold a belief. i don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy. i have never said that. so i'm not sure why you say that. i take information from lots of different sources. but unless i have verified it to be true then i am only trusting & putting my faith in someone else. i don't question everything either. so i am not sure why you would say that. statements like everything in life is a conspiracy & question everything are misrepresentations. i have no defensiveness. i am just not interested in fallacies & beliefs. the problem is you think it is my job to prove your beliefs & claims are real. that is not logical. you are free to believe what you want. if you want to prove your belief is real then the burden falls on you. it is not a rule. just simple common sense. is asking someone to prove their claim is real a pissing contest? it is an internet forum
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
larry the sperg wants to keep it civil when it suits him. you treat larry how you feel he should be treated & i'll treat him how i feel he should be treated. you were the one wanting to continue the covid dialogue i this thread. i said i was wanting to focus on what might be next. you wanted to continue. no one needs to prove their belief. just admit it is only a belief or prove it is real. you can forget onuses & burdens. i will continue to hold those making claims to their responsibility. everyone is free to believe what they want. if they want to claim that belief is real it needs to be proven. i've never said the world revolves around me. just asked people to prove their claims are real. sound fair?
Just an observation... but you see to have a
huge chip on your shoulder. It shows with everything you post. Why the aggressiveness? No one here is trying to change your mind about anything. Just realize that no one is changing their own minds based on what you say, either. So it's pretty much a stalemate in that regard.
You don't want to talk about COVID, and would rather concentrate on other things you call "scams"? Please... go right ahead. I already made my own point in that I don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy.
I'm a "middle-ground" type of guy, in that I don't believe everything the media says... but I also don't automatically discard everything the media says. I take things on their own merit, using my common sense, experience, and putting different amounts of weight on what others say, based on their amount of expertise. If "Joe Blow" puts something out there as factual, I'm less inclined to believe it than if it is said by a known expert in the field. And this applies to just about everything... not just COVID.
I also don't limit my knowledge and beliefs solely to those I can "perform experiments myself", as I'm realistic enough to know I don't own a microbiology lab, a physics lab, an observatory, nor have I ever flown into space. Most of the classes I ever took in school taught me things I never experienced myself. Yet I don't question EVERYTHING. I
choose what to question and what not to. But that's just me.
But back to your defensiveness... I think if you took a deep breath and approached the forum and its posters with an open mind and open to dialogue... you'd be surprised at how different things would go.
This isn't a pissing contest. It's an Internet forum.
no chip & no aggressiveness. i'm not asking anyone to change their minds. just to prove their beliefs if they claim them to be real. i have no problem talking about convid but it will just highlight again & again that you only hold a belief. i don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy. i have never said that. so i'm not sure why you say that. i take information from lots of different sources. but unless i have verified it to be true then i am only trusting & putting my faith in someone else. i don't question everything either. so i am not sure why you would say that. statements like everything in life is a conspiracy & question everything are misrepresentations. i have no defensiveness. i am just not interested in fallacies & beliefs.
the problem is you think it is my job to prove your beliefs & claims are real. that is not logical. you are free to believe what you want. if you want to prove your belief is real then the burden falls on you. it is not a rule. just simple common sense. is asking someone to prove their claim is real a pissing contest? it is an internet forum
You're sailing along... and then you say THIS. :vd:
SHOW ME where I said it was "your job to prove my beliefs and claims." In fact... SHOW ME where I said I gave a rat's ass WHAT you believe about my beliefs and claims.
I didn't think so. :rolleyes:
Credibility. It must be earned and also maintained.
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
TIC
larry the sperg wants to keep it civil when it suits him. you treat larry how you feel he should be treated & i'll treat him how i feel he should be treated. you were the one wanting to continue the covid dialogue i this thread. i said i was wanting to focus on what might be next. you wanted to continue. no one needs to prove their belief. just admit it is only a belief or prove it is real. you can forget onuses & burdens. i will continue to hold those making claims to their responsibility. everyone is free to believe what they want. if they want to claim that belief is real it needs to be proven. i've never said the world revolves around me. just asked people to prove their claims are real. sound fair?
Just an observation... but you see to have a
huge chip on your shoulder. It shows with everything you post. Why the aggressiveness? No one here is trying to change your mind about anything. Just realize that no one is changing their own minds based on what you say, either. So it's pretty much a stalemate in that regard.
You don't want to talk about COVID, and would rather concentrate on other things you call "scams"? Please... go right ahead. I already made my own point in that I don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy.
I'm a "middle-ground" type of guy, in that I don't believe everything the media says... but I also don't automatically discard everything the media says. I take things on their own merit, using my common sense, experience, and putting different amounts of weight on what others say, based on their amount of expertise. If "Joe Blow" puts something out there as factual, I'm less inclined to believe it than if it is said by a known expert in the field. And this applies to just about everything... not just COVID.
I also don't limit my knowledge and beliefs solely to those I can "perform experiments myself", as I'm realistic enough to know I don't own a microbiology lab, a physics lab, an observatory, nor have I ever flown into space. Most of the classes I ever took in school taught me things I never experienced myself. Yet I don't question EVERYTHING. I
choose what to question and what not to. But that's just me.
But back to your defensiveness... I think if you took a deep breath and approached the forum and its posters with an open mind and open to dialogue... you'd be surprised at how different things would go.
This isn't a pissing contest. It's an Internet forum.
no chip & no aggressiveness. i'm not asking anyone to change their minds. just to prove their beliefs if they claim them to be real. i have no problem talking about convid but it will just highlight again & again that you only hold a belief. i don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy. i have never said that. so i'm not sure why you say that. i take information from lots of different sources. but unless i have verified it to be true then i am only trusting & putting my faith in someone else. i don't question everything either. so i am not sure why you would say that. statements like everything in life is a conspiracy & question everything are misrepresentations. i have no defensiveness. i am just not interested in fallacies & beliefs.
the problem is you think it is my job to prove your beliefs & claims are real. that is not logical. you are free to believe what you want. if you want to prove your belief is real then the burden falls on you. it is not a rule. just simple common sense. is asking someone to prove their claim is real a pissing contest? it is an internet forum
You're sailing along... and then you say THIS. :vd:
SHOW ME where I said it was "your job to prove my beliefs and claims." In fact... SHOW ME where I said I gave a rat's ass WHAT you believe about my beliefs and claims.
I didn't think so. :rolleyes:
Credibility. It must be earned and also maintained.
you said "since i don't believe in having burden of proof assigned arbitrarily... i don't accept the onus of having to prove anything" you & i have established that you only hold a belief. that is fine. i'm not interested in your belief. now if you want to claim that belief is real the onus is on you to prove that claim
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Re: the scam is over. what's next?
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TIC
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Quote:
Originally Posted by
TIC
larry the sperg wants to keep it civil when it suits him. you treat larry how you feel he should be treated & i'll treat him how i feel he should be treated. you were the one wanting to continue the covid dialogue i this thread. i said i was wanting to focus on what might be next. you wanted to continue. no one needs to prove their belief. just admit it is only a belief or prove it is real. you can forget onuses & burdens. i will continue to hold those making claims to their responsibility. everyone is free to believe what they want. if they want to claim that belief is real it needs to be proven. i've never said the world revolves around me. just asked people to prove their claims are real. sound fair?
Just an observation... but you see to have a
huge chip on your shoulder. It shows with everything you post. Why the aggressiveness? No one here is trying to change your mind about anything. Just realize that no one is changing their own minds based on what you say, either. So it's pretty much a stalemate in that regard.
You don't want to talk about COVID, and would rather concentrate on other things you call "scams"? Please... go right ahead. I already made my own point in that I don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy.
I'm a "middle-ground" type of guy, in that I don't believe everything the media says... but I also don't automatically discard everything the media says. I take things on their own merit, using my common sense, experience, and putting different amounts of weight on what others say, based on their amount of expertise. If "Joe Blow" puts something out there as factual, I'm less inclined to believe it than if it is said by a known expert in the field. And this applies to just about everything... not just COVID.
I also don't limit my knowledge and beliefs solely to those I can "perform experiments myself", as I'm realistic enough to know I don't own a microbiology lab, a physics lab, an observatory, nor have I ever flown into space. Most of the classes I ever took in school taught me things I never experienced myself. Yet I don't question EVERYTHING. I
choose what to question and what not to. But that's just me.
But back to your defensiveness... I think if you took a deep breath and approached the forum and its posters with an open mind and open to dialogue... you'd be surprised at how different things would go.
This isn't a pissing contest. It's an Internet forum.
no chip & no aggressiveness. i'm not asking anyone to change their minds. just to prove their beliefs if they claim them to be real. i have no problem talking about convid but it will just highlight again & again that you only hold a belief. i don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy. i have never said that. so i'm not sure why you say that. i take information from lots of different sources. but unless i have verified it to be true then i am only trusting & putting my faith in someone else. i don't question everything either. so i am not sure why you would say that. statements like everything in life is a conspiracy & question everything are misrepresentations. i have no defensiveness. i am just not interested in fallacies & beliefs.
the problem is you think it is my job to prove your beliefs & claims are real. that is not logical. you are free to believe what you want. if you want to prove your belief is real then the burden falls on you. it is not a rule. just simple common sense. is asking someone to prove their claim is real a pissing contest? it is an internet forum
You're sailing along... and then you say THIS. :vd:
SHOW ME where I said it was "your job to prove my beliefs and claims." In fact... SHOW ME where I said I gave a rat's ass WHAT you believe about my beliefs and claims.
I didn't think so. :rolleyes:
Credibility. It must be earned and also maintained.
you said "since i don't believe in having burden of proof assigned arbitrarily... i don't accept the onus of having to prove anything" you & i have established that you only hold a belief. that is fine. i'm not interested in your belief. now if you want to claim that belief is real the onus is on you to prove that claim
That's not saying "it's your job to prove my beliefs and claims." That's saying that I don't accept you telling me I have to prove anything to you. So basically, your saying that "the problem is you think it is my job to prove..." is actually a complete falsehood.
Just wanted to establish that, since I don't appreciate others telling me what it is that I think.
Then you go on to say "now if you want to claim... blah blah blah", when I've said at least two dozen times that I'm not interested in convincing you about anything regarding COVID.
I'll continue saying it... but frankly it gets tiresome having to repeat the same thing over and over again.
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Let's be clear here. TIC is a liar.
He claims to only be interested in what you can prove to be true but then refuses to consider any kind of evidence.
What he really wants, is to have his bias and his childish beliefs in conspiracy theories, that make him think he is better than everyone here, confirmed.
Calling a virus that has affected everyone here 'convid' and then claiming 'the scam is over' is not a neutral position that respects anyone's acquired knowledge. It is an arrogant demand to be treated differently and to give presidency to beliefs over knowledge.
His insistence that scientific consensus is not evidence, is not so different to claims made by flat earthers or religious crackpots.
you have been proven a liar over & over spergy larry. you haven't provided any evidence of the scientific method you used to prove your belief. all i want is for you to prove your belief. & we both know you can't or you would have done so already. the problem is you can't admit you only hold a belief & faith in authority. scientific consensus is another fallacy. i am asking you to prove your belief
Ask away numbnuts for all the good it will do you. Scientific concensus is not a fallacy, far from it. It is the wheel that progress was built upon. It has given you and everyone else the kind of security and unimaginable diverse range of experiences and benefits that generations before us could not even dream about. You are and always have been the one who the onus falls to prove your pseudo scientific psychobabble.
You are not able to understand the rules of engagement and so have no right to anything. You don't even understand what a logical fallacy is.
The Scientific method is not a set of rules you can follow to carry out a one off experiment, it is the method by which knowledge is gathered by questioning, experimenting and proving again and again, something you as a clueless twat waffle are still struggling to comprehend. The argument was won months ago and all you have is your belief and repeated lies.
You say you want people to prove their belief when you will not accept any kind of evidence whatsoever. Anyone can make vague, unobservable claims that are unfalsifiable but we all have rock solid verifiable knowledge to explain what you are too dense to absorb.
There are no plausible mechanisms that allow for your extraordinairy exaggerated claims to be explained using existing knowledge and so they can be ignored by anyone with even just a little common sense.
talking about consensus is nothing you have personally done. this discussion is between you & i. if you haven't verified the claims yourself then you only have faith that they are true. that is a belief you spastic. i never said anything about a one off experiment spergy larry. give me everything you have done to test the claim & prove it to be true. then i should be able to repeat everything you have done & prove it true as well. you have already admitted that you haven't done anything & only have faith & trust in others, that is why you keep using fallacies & talking about what others have done. see i believe i could beat your wife in a hundred metre sprint with me on my knees but until i did so it is only a belief. once i did we would know that i was able to. watching you sperg gives me great pleasure & i love that you are a sucker for punishment cause you will be treated this way every time i reply to you. talk soon retard
It is amazing that this kind of crap is allowed to roll here still.
you deserve everything you get you nasty little sperg. they have allowed wishing people will die, admitted threats, giving medical advice & a whole lot more. the mods should be applauded for allowing free speech. you are the problem & here you are trying to cancel & censor someone. if you don't want to read it you can use ignore or scroll right on past. no one is forcing you to engage or to even be here. sadly for you like i said you are a sucker for punishment & crave the abuse & like the retard you are you continue to come back for more. so open up wide spastic & i'll talk to you soon sweetie
There is nothing nasty in anything I have said to you. I have kept it perfectly civil and not resorted to the childish spiteful personal ad hominem stuff you have stooped to in the absence of any cogent argument.
Nobody is trying to cancel or censor you but there is no excuse for mentioning people's names, families, and using terms like spastic, retard and sperg as though disabilities are something to laugh about.
stop playing the victim you spastic. you started with the insults & now have to live with it. there is no argument on my side. i am asking you to prove your belief. all you have done is use logical fallacies because you can't prove your belief is true. you are trying to control how i post because you can't handle the heat that you started. that is censoring. there is an ignore button there for a reason. use it or harder up retard
I am not playing the victim at all just pointing out the unnecessary aggressiveness that you then go on to deny. Yes there is an ignore function but there is also the fact that the 'Have you had the vaccine/side effects' thread is full of you trolling everyone despite the fact you apparently are another one who is afraid of needles. It is non stop baiting and bullshit blatant lies with you. Here you are now claiming to not be a conspiracy theorist whilst simultaneously calling Covid 'convid' and claiming everything from killing sprees, and Cancer to American football are all cons. You say you use a range of sources whilst giving credence to obscure lone wolf nutters and YouTube videos from little kids and then refusing to accept scientific proof and evidence from thousands. It is pretty funny stuff, and you seem to be oblivious to how stupid you reveal yourself to be repeatedly day after day.
You have yet to prove you even understand what the logical fallacies you think vindicate you are. You seem to be very gullible, naive and easily led.
Nobody here is 'apealing to authority' when they cite scientific studies and the experience of millions of medical experts. That is proof.
Even your pathetically simplistic idea of an experiment proving covid exists outside of the body and can be passed on to others has been proved again and again by 90% of us all here pointing out what a fucking idiot you are.
That is precisely what the multiple lft and pcr tests we have been doing for months now do.
Jeez
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larry the sperg wants to keep it civil when it suits him. you treat larry how you feel he should be treated & i'll treat him how i feel he should be treated. you were the one wanting to continue the covid dialogue i this thread. i said i was wanting to focus on what might be next. you wanted to continue. no one needs to prove their belief. just admit it is only a belief or prove it is real. you can forget onuses & burdens. i will continue to hold those making claims to their responsibility. everyone is free to believe what they want. if they want to claim that belief is real it needs to be proven. i've never said the world revolves around me. just asked people to prove their claims are real. sound fair?
Just an observation... but you see to have a
huge chip on your shoulder. It shows with everything you post. Why the aggressiveness? No one here is trying to change your mind about anything. Just realize that no one is changing their own minds based on what you say, either. So it's pretty much a stalemate in that regard.
You don't want to talk about COVID, and would rather concentrate on other things you call "scams"? Please... go right ahead. I already made my own point in that I don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy.
I'm a "middle-ground" type of guy, in that I don't believe everything the media says... but I also don't automatically discard everything the media says. I take things on their own merit, using my common sense, experience, and putting different amounts of weight on what others say, based on their amount of expertise. If "Joe Blow" puts something out there as factual, I'm less inclined to believe it than if it is said by a known expert in the field. And this applies to just about everything... not just COVID.
I also don't limit my knowledge and beliefs solely to those I can "perform experiments myself", as I'm realistic enough to know I don't own a microbiology lab, a physics lab, an observatory, nor have I ever flown into space. Most of the classes I ever took in school taught me things I never experienced myself. Yet I don't question EVERYTHING. I
choose what to question and what not to. But that's just me.
But back to your defensiveness... I think if you took a deep breath and approached the forum and its posters with an open mind and open to dialogue... you'd be surprised at how different things would go.
This isn't a pissing contest. It's an Internet forum.
no chip & no aggressiveness. i'm not asking anyone to change their minds. just to prove their beliefs if they claim them to be real. i have no problem talking about convid but it will just highlight again & again that you only hold a belief. i don't believe everything in life is a conspiracy. i have never said that. so i'm not sure why you say that. i take information from lots of different sources. but unless i have verified it to be true then i am only trusting & putting my faith in someone else. i don't question everything either. so i am not sure why you would say that. statements like everything in life is a conspiracy & question everything are misrepresentations. i have no defensiveness. i am just not interested in fallacies & beliefs.
the problem is you think it is my job to prove your beliefs & claims are real. that is not logical. you are free to believe what you want. if you want to prove your belief is real then the burden falls on you. it is not a rule. just simple common sense. is asking someone to prove their claim is real a pissing contest? it is an internet forum
You're sailing along... and then you say THIS. :vd:
SHOW ME where I said it was "your job to prove my beliefs and claims." In fact... SHOW ME where I said I gave a rat's ass WHAT you believe about my beliefs and claims.
I didn't think so. :rolleyes:
Credibility. It must be earned and also maintained.
you said "since i don't believe in having burden of proof assigned arbitrarily... i don't accept the onus of having to prove anything" you & i have established that you only hold a belief. that is fine. i'm not interested in your belief. now if you want to claim that belief is real the onus is on you to prove that claim
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not saying "it's your job to prove my beliefs and claims." That's saying that I don't accept you telling me I have to prove anything to you. So basically, your saying that "the problem is you think it is my job to prove..." is actually a complete falsehood.
Just wanted to establish that, since I don't appreciate others telling me what it is that I think.
Then you go on to say "now if you want to claim... blah blah blah", when I've said at least two dozen times that I'm not interested in convincing you about anything regarding COVID.
I'll continue saying it... but frankly it gets tiresome having to repeat the same thing over and over again.
you don't have to prove your belief. you can believe whatever you like. that doesn't make your belief real or prove it to be. keep your belief because i know that's all it is & you have admitted this. you not being unable to prove your belief is real does not make me have a belief that your belief is not real. that is not logical
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Let's be clear here. TIC is a liar.
He claims to only be interested in what you can prove to be true but then refuses to consider any kind of evidence.
What he really wants, is to have his bias and his childish beliefs in conspiracy theories, that make him think he is better than everyone here, confirmed.
Calling a virus that has affected everyone here 'convid' and then claiming 'the scam is over' is not a neutral position that respects anyone's acquired knowledge. It is an arrogant demand to be treated differently and to give presidency to beliefs over knowledge.
His insistence that scientific consensus is not evidence, is not so different to claims made by flat earthers or religious crackpots.
you have been proven a liar over & over spergy larry. you haven't provided any evidence of the scientific method you used to prove your belief. all i want is for you to prove your belief. & we both know you can't or you would have done so already. the problem is you can't admit you only hold a belief & faith in authority. scientific consensus is another fallacy. i am asking you to prove your belief
Ask away numbnuts for all the good it will do you. Scientific concensus is not a fallacy, far from it. It is the wheel that progress was built upon. It has given you and everyone else the kind of security and unimaginable diverse range of experiences and benefits that generations before us could not even dream about. You are and always have been the one who the onus falls to prove your pseudo scientific psychobabble.
You are not able to understand the rules of engagement and so have no right to anything. You don't even understand what a logical fallacy is.
The Scientific method is not a set of rules you can follow to carry out a one off experiment, it is the method by which knowledge is gathered by questioning, experimenting and proving again and again, something you as a clueless twat waffle are still struggling to comprehend. The argument was won months ago and all you have is your belief and repeated lies.
You say you want people to prove their belief when you will not accept any kind of evidence whatsoever. Anyone can make vague, unobservable claims that are unfalsifiable but we all have rock solid verifiable knowledge to explain what you are too dense to absorb.
There are no plausible mechanisms that allow for your extraordinairy exaggerated claims to be explained using existing knowledge and so they can be ignored by anyone with even just a little common sense.
talking about consensus is nothing you have personally done. this discussion is between you & i. if you haven't verified the claims yourself then you only have faith that they are true. that is a belief you spastic. i never said anything about a one off experiment spergy larry. give me everything you have done to test the claim & prove it to be true. then i should be able to repeat everything you have done & prove it true as well. you have already admitted that you haven't done anything & only have faith & trust in others, that is why you keep using fallacies & talking about what others have done. see i believe i could beat your wife in a hundred metre sprint with me on my knees but until i did so it is only a belief. once i did we would know that i was able to. watching you sperg gives me great pleasure & i love that you are a sucker for punishment cause you will be treated this way every time i reply to you. talk soon retard
It is amazing that this kind of crap is allowed to roll here still.
you deserve everything you get you nasty little sperg. they have allowed wishing people will die, admitted threats, giving medical advice & a whole lot more. the mods should be applauded for allowing free speech. you are the problem & here you are trying to cancel & censor someone. if you don't want to read it you can use ignore or scroll right on past. no one is forcing you to engage or to even be here. sadly for you like i said you are a sucker for punishment & crave the abuse & like the retard you are you continue to come back for more. so open up wide spastic & i'll talk to you soon sweetie
There is nothing nasty in anything I have said to you. I have kept it perfectly civil and not resorted to the childish spiteful personal ad hominem stuff you have stooped to in the absence of any cogent argument.
Nobody is trying to cancel or censor you but there is no excuse for mentioning people's names, families, and using terms like spastic, retard and sperg as though disabilities are something to laugh about.
stop playing the victim you spastic. you started with the insults & now have to live with it. there is no argument on my side. i am asking you to prove your belief. all you have done is use logical fallacies because you can't prove your belief is true. you are trying to control how i post because you can't handle the heat that you started. that is censoring. there is an ignore button there for a reason. use it or harder up retard
I am not playing the victim at all just pointing out the unnecessary aggressiveness that you then go on to deny. Yes there is an ignore function but there is also the fact that the 'Have you had the vaccine/side effects' thread is full of you trolling everyone despite the fact you apparently are another one who is afraid of needles. It is non stop baiting and bullshit blatant lies with you. Here you are now claiming to not be a conspiracy theorist whilst simultaneously calling Covid 'convid' and claiming everything from killing sprees, and Cancer to American football are all cons. You say you use a range of sources whilst giving credence to obscure lone wolf nutters and YouTube videos from little kids and then refusing to accept scientific proof and evidence from thousands. It is pretty funny stuff, and you seem to be oblivious to how stupid you reveal yourself to be repeatedly day after day.
You have yet to prove you even understand what the logical fallacies you think vindicate you are. You seem to be very gullible, naive and easily led.
Nobody here is 'apealing to authority' when they cite scientific studies and the experience of millions of medical experts. That is proof.
Even your pathetically simplistic idea of an experiment proving covid exists outside of the body and can be passed on to others has been proved again and again by 90% of us all here pointing out what a fucking idiot you are.
That is precisely what the multiple lft and pcr tests we have been doing for months now do.
Jeez
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there is no aggressiveness cupcake. asking someone to prove their claims is not trolling spergy larry. what makes you think i'm scared of needles? calling someone a conspiracy theorist is just a psychological tactic. you haven't proved how you know covid is real so i'll keep calling it convid until you can. there are events that a fake. read up on operation northwoods for a story on a alleged false flag event. what you see on tv isn't you proving what you are seeing is real. the governments & media has lied to you enough times to have serious concerns about their credibility. i never said cancer is a con you lied spastic. i said calling a disease something isn't proving the cause of the disease. also said nothing about american football being a con. just posted an interview of an ex player. lots of sports have had scandals, so where money is involved there is always a potential for corruption. i don't give credence to anyone. i take information onboard. unless i can verify that information then it is not me knowing. i have been asking for the scientific proof that you have verified but you still haven't provided any. you are so stupid. citing scientific studies is not you proving your claims. i asked the question directly to you. what others have said & done is not you spergy. millions of medical experts is exactly what appealing to authorities is. the question is to you retard & you haven't provided any proof you have verified. provide all experiments & scientific evidence you have done to prove your claim. you only hold a belief you spastic based on what others have told you. you haven't proven your belief to be true, only that you put your faith & trust in other people. that is not you proving your belief is true spergy larry
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From that and all your other replies I think it is quite likely that you are a child still at school. If not then you clearly have some developmental issues that mean you can not grasp or comprehend even the basic tenets of constructing an argument or conducting a civil conversation.
Therefore I will not waste my time trying to reason with you until you can act like an adult.
Yours Sincerely
Xavier Breath
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From that and all your other replies I think it is quite likely that you are a child still at school. If not then you clearly have some developmental issues that mean you can not grasp or comprehend even the basic tenets of constructing an argument or conducting a civil conversation.
Therefore I will not waste my time trying to reason with you until you can act like an adult.
Yours Sincerely
Xavier Breath
Orange crayon is his preferred writing implement.
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From that and all your other replies I think it is quite likely that you are a child still at school. If not then you clearly have some developmental issues that mean you can not grasp or comprehend even the basic tenets of constructing an argument or conducting a civil conversation.
Therefore I will not waste my time trying to reason with you until you can act like an adult.
Yours Sincerely
Xavier Breath
there is no argument. you believe something is real & i am asking you to show me how you know it is true & provide everything you have done to verify it. you can't because you only hold a belief. it's very easy to comprehend. keep believing spergy
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From that and all your other replies I think it is quite likely that you are a child still at school. If not then you clearly have some developmental issues that mean you can not grasp or comprehend even the basic tenets of constructing an argument or conducting a civil conversation.
Therefore I will not waste my time trying to reason with you until you can act like an adult.
Yours Sincerely
Xavier Breath
Orange crayon is his preferred writing implement.
able to admit you only hold a belief yet?
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So, anyway. All of our news is full of Russia invading Ukraine ..... but has anybody actually been to Ukraine? Yes, we hear that people like Usyk and Mila Kunis (shut up, Meg) are from there, but they could be part of the scam couldn't they?
Someone could easily have got hold of some adopted orphan and then spent decades bringing them up to believe they were Ukrainian. You could even put a kid in a garage somewhere for seven and a half months and tell them that they are in Ukraine and they would believe you - and I know that for a scientific fact!
'Ukraine' doesn't even sound like a real name. Is this part of the global scam now. Does it even exist? I would like to get a piece of Ukraine in my lab and properly scientifically test it before I am certain that I don't only hold a belief. Can you catch Ukraine off surfaces or through the air?
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Ive only met one fellow who claimed to be from Ukraine and he ate tomatoes like it was an apple,which makes me think he is a malfunction robot rather than a Ukrainian.
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Ive only met one fellow who claimed to be from Ukraine and he ate tomatoes like it was an apple,which makes me think he is a malfunction robot rather than a Ukrainian.
I have seen old Croatian people do that. A very distressing abnormality.
