Watch him now beat Whyte and Wilder this year.Quote:
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Watch him now beat Whyte and Wilder this year.Quote:
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Whilst Whyte and wilder aren't donkeys that's nothing that Joshua hasn't done before, he already beat Whyte and wilder despite being a good athlete and very determined is just a bit of a bad boxerjoshua would surely be a big favourite against both right now.
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Originally Posted by palmerq
I'm sorry did I lose something in the translation? I must've done a Rip Van Winkle while Joshua was beating Wilder.
Ok sorry... I just caught on, just before hitting "Submit." ;D
Got caught by the punctuation bug and only now just reread the sentence and got your meaning. :D
Decent enough at least they're not waiting until Christmas. Sounds like AJ again going on about going for ko but I'm not sure that's there as with Franklin. But familiarity and given the dents they put on each other 7,8 years ago could see it open up early, or have no chose but to. Heavyweights actually fighting decent competition twice a year :-X. Sign me up for that. This might possibly erupt into a really good fight.
Odd we were complaining about the inactivity of the heavyweights because of the Saudi money and now they may all fight before December. They are all doing it for different reasons but at least they are competing.
will the undercard be anything like this? (from the first fight)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0apxlDW...g&name=900x900
I reckon this will be a decent scrap. Not the one we want to see of course. Fancy whyte to pull off the win here too.
Hope dubois beats usyk and whoever fury fights hope they ko him too so they're all out of the picture...
oleksandr did everything to try & fight tyson, even accepted a seventy thirty split. oleksandr needs to fight & daniel is an easy tune up, then he'll probably fight another mandatoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Yep I put little or no blame at Usyks door to be honest. Just sick of the whole charade.
so does aj fight filip hrgovic or francis ngannou next?
Path of easiest resistance and most success would be wait for the titles to break up after Fury v Usyk. The IBF strip champions the quickest so AJ v Hrgovic would be for the vacant title.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Hrgovic is awful and so protected since he got away with the decision against Zhang. They have put him in with some easy fights since that scare. AJ will knock him out within 3 rounds.
AJ then will make some defences waiting for the winner and potential rematch Fury v Usyk.
I heard AJ does not want to fight his African brother unless he has to.
AJ hasn't revived his career like so many wishful thinkers wishfully think. AJ is big Galoop meaning a big giant nothing like a Michael Grant or a big load of fluff with zero killer instinct and almost zero character or personality.
Boxing is 90% psychological is what Muhammad Ali used to say and this is why Anthony Joshua will never be anything much, because does he even have any psychology at all really? He's just a boring flat Big Nothing
Can you imagine the way Tyson Fury would humiliate him and out-think him?
Grant ;D. 5 years in one was winning his one and only major title fight eliminator...and it took a Golota 'psychological' melt down job...and one was fully unifying the division. And now sits atop for another shot to possibly repeat it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
but please anyone but Ngannou. That would be such a backslide imo for the division. It will all depend on how Usyk vs Big Belly plays out next month. And fingers crossed no "injuries" come up. I've never been a big AJ fan but for the first time in a while it feels like the division is finally moving forward.
If It's Hrgovic, I Don't mind because he's being true to his word that he wants a strap back , which is never a bad thing.
If it's Zhang , nobody can have a problem with that after everybody made him out to be superhero for beating the "Great" Joe Joyce.
He's apparently not keen on Ngannou. GREAT! again he's being true to his word, it's about legacy!
If it;s Ngannou I will be mightily pissed off...........but not with AJ , I'll be pissed off at Eddie Hearn, because it will be yet another money Grab. Disgraceful.
before he gets criticised for his opponent (As he will do , no matter who it is ! :rolleyes: ) let's just think about who else there is out there.
they should do aj v filip hrgovic & deontay v francis ngannou in march
I just posted an absolutely cracking and stellar post on the other thread about wilder's resume so I don't want to rehash it here but little Anthony does not want any fight with Wilder because it is too much of a risk at this point during his little mini so-called comeback
What? you mean like he did with Francis Ngannou? ;D;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Ngannou it is then. Disappointed.
And just like that my new respect and anticipation for Joshua goes right out the ol window :p. Trash cash grab nothing more.
Honestly, getting real tired of the Saudi side shows and grown men standing in line to polish the apples of "his excellency."
Guess he had to fight his African brother then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterPath of easiest resistance and most success would be wait for the titles to break up after Fury v Usyk. The IBF strip champions the quickest so AJ v Hrgovic would be for the vacant title.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Hrgovic is awful and so protected since he got away with the decision against Zhang. They have put him in with some easy fights since that scare. AJ will knock him out within 3 rounds.
AJ then will make some defences waiting for the winner and potential rematch Fury v Usyk.
I heard AJ does not want to fight his African brother unless he has to.
I think ngannou beats his from pillar to post btw
Financial angle wins again. And let's face it it's going to every time.
There wasnt many decent options for him but this was bottom of the list. Expect a similar tactic to Ruiz 2. Fight will be shite - they should use that as a tagline.
Is the fight in Morocco?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
For reference, and so Beanz post makes sense, predictive text gave me another last word on my now edited post....
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Originally Posted by BeanzIs the fight in Morocco?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
The fact that nobody sees things with their own eyes makes it look like Iβm an AJ fanboy , when honestly Iβm not.
This is a disgraceful fight for many reasons , as it was when Fury fought him. And the only person to blame is Hearn.
This isnβt the option AJ wanted. BUTβ¦β¦. Wallin went life and death with Fury , Joshua beat him easy!
Ngannou beat Fury, Joshua will beat him easy!
So from a bullshit perspective it proves volumes. From a Boxing and World level perspective, it proves fuck all!
Nothing against Ngannou , but he should not be allowed to fight these high profile fights, other HWβs have worked their way into a position to make these fights, most would beat Ngannou, but donβt get their moment in the spotlight.
Usyk beats Fury, if thereβs a rematch , Usyk wins that as well.
Then Usyk will have to wait while a credible opponent comes into the reckoning, which will probably be Jai Opetaia in about 18-24 months.
And if , by the time Usyk has seen Fury off , Fury and AJ are still around, they will fight a βDivision 2, best of the restβ fight. Whether there is a title at stake is proven to be totally irrelevant. It will still make more money than the βReal World title fightβ.
Why? Because Boxing fans (in particular Brit boxing fans) are MUGS with more money than sense and allow this to happen.
Sermon over!
If you think that's bad just wait until usyk and Francis fight
it's a good fight from team aj's side. he gets to fight a novice. he gets a chance to look good over the guy who embarrassed tyson. he gets to stay active. it's a big payday. francis gets another bag & depending how he performs he could be in more big money fights
So is it a sport? Or is it some kind of Benevolent Charity for Boxers and MMA fighters?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Absolute joke. Joshua is a two time world champion supposedly on the comeback route fighting good opponents to get another title shot β¦. But he fights a 37 year old having his second pro fight in front of about 25 disinterested Saudis.
wilder... for sure... has to be wilder then fury if fury beats usyk.
****i'm eliteβββ i'm the new breed of heavyweights βββ***
bwahahahahah
AJ rant about modern day training and new heavyweights being better than the old is rubbish when you have a weak mentality. He crumbled against Ruiz and outwitted by Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
"The good thing is about that one [Ngannou], we've already had a look at him now," Clarke told Sky Sports.
"Before Fury was like the tester. He had to get in there when he wasn't quite sure and neither were we about what he was going to get.
"I think he [Joshua] can beat him and can beat him well.
"If the world title is your aim, then I would probably say you'll want a more competitive name on your resume to get back to that stage.
"You've been at the top, you've come down a bit, and you've now just fought Otto Wallin to bridge the gap. Maybe you need to bridge the gap again to the next level up to get you ready for the world titles. I'm not sure if Ngannou is that?
"Saying that he had a good performance against Fury, but then again, what does it come down to? I hate having this conversation with people, because it's not what people want to hear, but pound notes is a massive thing in boxing and I think ultimately that will do the talking."
Zhilei Zhang's team confirmed he was also in talks to face Joshua, but Clarke believes the Chinese contender would be a very dangerous proposition after his back-to-back stoppage wins over Joe Joyce.
"He's going to be the one most avoided now, if I'm honest," said Clarke. "I think he's an absolute nightmare for a lot of fighters.
"He's a huge problem, he's a nightmare in the division.
"I don't think we'll see Anthony Joshua in the ring with him any time soon, unless it's for a world title in China.
"If anyone has got any brains about them, they'll learn from Joe Joyce's mistakes."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...f9df0bd4&ei=85
Joshua when you look at it how young he is and how huge he is and how muscular he is and how athletic he is should really be unbeatable but what has always struck me about him is that he seems to lack self-confidence and that killer instinct.
I'm surprised because the way he demolished Klitschko made me think he had a lot of killer instinct. I was honestly expecting to see Anthony Joshua continue fighting the same way he did against Klitschko and basically tear up the division. I guess we can say after he got knocked out by Ruiz that maybe he lost his confidence and he got spooked and became gun shy. I guess it happens to a lot of fighters. The thing that gets me about him though is look at how huge he is look at how massive he is he should technically be almost unbeatable when you Factor in his youthfulness and his athleticism.
Yes he has done well and only has three losses on his record. Avenged one of them even if it was in a snooze fest.
In a strange way in my opinion he has a lot in common with Adrian broner in that he seems to be a little bit disconnected from the reality around him and believes himself to be a lot greater than he actually is.
a long time ago they fought in 6 oz gloves. do you know that after you throw a few punches in 6 oz horse hair gloves the horse hair padding spreads out everywhere but your knuckles? there is no man that is so big that he can stand up to such a punch and back then knowing that they must have thought it so silly to be so big.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
This "zero killer instinct" thing is a bit exaggerated. He can be overly cautious but you can't pretend he hasn't shown it on several occasions. Joshua had already caught Povetkin in round 6 and spurred on by that his instinct and finishing here in Round 7 is pretty flawlessQuote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
https://youtu.be/Z6AkPWEyoFk?si=iY6lZZlFccA-hwAh&t=2005
He is plenty great without being A Great. He is a late starter and a bit of an overachiever really. Certainly much more than the robotic bodybuilder Fury pretends he is in order to hide his own overblown achievements. Joshua has good fundamentals, a killer uppercut, a decent jab and a pretty classy overhand right on occasion. He is a bit dull but refreshingly honest and free from the bullshit Fury etc sputs most of the time. No excusing his post-Usyk meltdown but Fury is way more embarrassing about 99% of the time he opens his gobshite mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Personality wise his arguing with old rival Whyte during their fight and then the smile as he knows he is catching him and then the joy in finishing him so spectacularly suggests he doesn't take himself too seriously and can enjoy himself at times. Also another great example of a killer instinct more than capable of keeping Fury down and out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTIEIo8jeW8
Ran across the term 'Fanagers' to describe some fans today. It feels pretty accurate. We all understand it's "prize fighting" but it's become a bit ridiculous. Discussions revolve around their bag, what he deserves, ppv buy rates, who has more followers, who should get a bigger split and earns the most. Tbh it's fuckin weird. Like we're working as personal accountants and actual division and fighter progression becomes secondary. You know...best facing best and who beats who :-X. Ngannou has been afforded the opportunity based in large part on sport celebrity rather than long substance. The nasty irony is that his one and only fight skyrocketed him due to a "controversial loss". While the boxing graveyard is littered with contenders and journeyman who also "got robbed" but became just another stat or trivia question after that one night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo is it a sport? Or is it some kind of Benevolent Charity for Boxers and MMA fighters?Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC