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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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Bam deserves P4P mention, so many good young Americans right now.
carlos cuadras & srisaket sor rungvisai were not near their primes, srisaket sor rungvisai was about a five to one underdog. bam is making the right moves & catching this division at the right time. i'd love to see bam face fernando pumita martinez, sunny edwards, junto nakatani, kenshiro teraji & hiroto kyoguchi
He says he can fight anywhere from 108-115, wherever the biggest fight is he’ll go. I like the moxie. Hopefully he isn’t just talking(his team actually, I don’t know if he said it)
Oh, and a 108lber beating those 2 at 115 is P4P impressive any way you care to look at it
bam has shown so far that he is up for challenges. bam didn't weigh one o eight for either fight. he was one fourteen for both fights. the first fight was on short notice as well. impressive? yes but neither carlos or srisaket were prime or current pound for pound top ten fighters. bam has the talent to be pound for pound, if he beats some of the guys i mentioned he'll get there
I said “P4P mention”. Not anything about being on the lists
you also said pound for pound impressive, for me beating two past prime fighters doesn't deserve pound for pound mention or is it pound for pound impressive yet
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
Jesse “Bam” Rodriguez put on what was both a stunning and mightily impressive performance last night, this in stopping the accomplished Srisaket Sor Rungvisai in the eighth round to retain his WBC super-flyweight title. What was seen as a pick ’em fight turned into the “Bam” Rodriguez show, as the 22 year old dropped his fellow southpaw in round seven and then finished the Thai in the next session. Now 16-0(11), Rodriguez was sensational and big, big things are expected of him.
Rungvisai, who is 35 years of age and faces a long rebuild, is now 50-6-1(43). It will be interesting seeing what he does next.
As for Rodriguez, well, superstardom seemingly awaits him. Eddie Hearn showered his fighter with all manner of praise after last night’s sizzling show. “This is the youngest champ in boxing and he already might be a pound-for-pound great,” Hearn said of Rodriguez. “He’s here for legacy; he’s here to be remembered. We live in a world of hype, it’s hard not to get too excited. From 108 to 115 pounds, I don’t think I’d back any fighter to beat him. I’m talking about some of the greats, Chocolatito, Estrada…..honestly, would you put those guys as a favourite against Bam Rodriguez? He can go down to 108, to 112, but there is not one fighter that if I put to Robert Garcia, they wouldn’t accept the challenge. He’s here for greatness.”
There are indeed some potentially great, indeed mouth-watering fights Rodriguez could feature in over the coming months and maybe we do have a brand new pound-for-pound star to rank. Rodriguez has been a pro for a little over five years yet he has achieved a lot already. “Bam” won the WBC super-flyweight title in February, when he decisioned Carlos Cuadras, and last night saw him make his first defence. And what a maiden title defence it turned out to be for the man from San Antonio!
At just 22 years of age, how much more can Rodriguez go on to accomplish?
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
It was a very impressive performance from Jesse Rodriguez but the hype from the commentators seems over the top at this stage.
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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It was a very impressive performance from Jesse Rodriguez but the hype from the commentators seems over the top at this stage.
Who would you favor over him from 108-115?
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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It was a very impressive performance from Jesse Rodriguez but the hype from the commentators seems over the top at this stage.
Who would you favor over him from 108-115?
Chocolatito, Estrada and Sunny Edwards.
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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It was a very impressive performance from Jesse Rodriguez but the hype from the commentators seems over the top at this stage.
Who would you favor over him from 108-115?
Chocolatito, Estrada and Sunny Edwards.
Well, here’s hoping they fight him so you can see how wrong you are.
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
I'd think he'd hand out a whipping to Gonzalez and Estrada, sure if Gonzalez was in his Prime then little chocolate would have a good chance at winning but now.....
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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I'd think he'd hand out a whipping to Gonzalez and Estrada, sure if Gonzalez was in his Prime then little chocolate would have a good chance at winning but now.....
i'd prefer chocolatioto, el gallo & kazuto to face each other, they are all past their best but if chocolatito faces bam before the end of this year i'd pick roman
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
We know Bam wants these fights. So when they don’t happen don’t just let the old guys slide with “I think …… would have…” because they wouldn’t avoid him if they thought they could beat him.
And if one of the old guys actually steps up, I will admit I was wrong
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
Bam and Chocolatito would be an outstanding fight on the inside but footwork and hand speed of Bam might give him nightmares. He's one of the young guys who seems to have his feet and hands totally unified, always punching with the shifts regardless of direction.
Estrada and Chocolatito need to make the 3rd meeting happen and sort it out. See who wants to hold the torch to Bam to see if Bam is ready for that step. Have to think Bam takes another fight before years end in the interim.
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
i hope eddie doesn't drop bam's level of competition trying to build bam into an attraction
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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i hope eddie doesn't drop bam's level of competition trying to build bam into an attraction
He could blow shows in TX up! Maybe he can dip down and they can do Martinez as a big attraction. But that would require him making weight :p
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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i hope eddie doesn't drop bam's level of competition trying to build bam into an attraction
He could blow shows in TX up! Maybe he can dip down and they can do Martinez as a big attraction. But that would require him making weight :p
yes bam could be a major attraction in texas shows, i just hope we don't get a string of undeserving defenses to milk that potential
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
if chocolatito v el gallo can't be made then this should be next
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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Bam and Chocolatito would be an outstanding fight on the inside but footwork and hand speed of Bam might give him nightmares. He's one of the young guys who seems to have his feet and hands totally unified, always punching with the shifts regardless of direction.
Estrada and Chocolatito need to make the 3rd meeting happen and sort it out. See who wants to hold the torch to Bam to see if Bam is ready for that step. Have to think Bam takes another fight before years end in the interim.
Yup, no way Chocolatito’s feet match Bam. Absolutely no way. I think people picking Chocolatito in this matchup are not even considering the matchup. It’s a beat down and it won’t happen because matchmakers know that.
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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Bam and Chocolatito would be an outstanding fight on the inside but footwork and hand speed of Bam might give him nightmares. He's one of the young guys who seems to have his feet and hands totally unified, always punching with the shifts regardless of direction.
Estrada and Chocolatito need to make the 3rd meeting happen and sort it out. See who wants to hold the torch to Bam to see if Bam is ready for that step. Have to think Bam takes another fight before years end in the interim.
Yup, no way Chocolatito’s feet match Bam. Absolutely no way. I think people picking Chocolatito in this matchup are not even considering the matchup.
It’s a beat down and it won’t happen because matchmakers know that.
Which I hope is not a slight on Chocolatito. Chocolatito himself would probably take it, given his career path. He's one of those champs I admire that have always taken on all comers... always. But let's face it. He's 35. Ancient for that weight division. Bam is a fresh-faced 22. Lots more gas in that tank. Question is... would it still look like a beatdown had they faced each other in one of these theoretical prime vs prime encounters?
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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Bam and Chocolatito would be an outstanding fight on the inside but footwork and hand speed of Bam might give him nightmares. He's one of the young guys who seems to have his feet and hands totally unified, always punching with the shifts regardless of direction.
Estrada and Chocolatito need to make the 3rd meeting happen and sort it out. See who wants to hold the torch to Bam to see if Bam is ready for that step. Have to think Bam takes another fight before years end in the interim.
Yup, no way Chocolatito’s feet match Bam. Absolutely no way. I think people picking Chocolatito in this matchup are not even considering the matchup.
It’s a beat down and it won’t happen because matchmakers know that.
Which I hope is not a slight on Chocolatito. Chocolatito himself
would probably take it, given his career path. He's one of those champs I admire that have always taken on all comers... always. But let's face it. He's 35. Ancient for that weight division. Bam is a fresh-faced 22. Lots more gas in that tank. Question is... would it still look like a beatdown had they faced each other in one of these theoretical prime vs prime encounters?
it is also chocolatito's fourth weight class & people thought he was finished after the second srisaket fight & that was almost five years ago. i'd prefer to see chocolatito win the third el gallo fight & retire. but if by some chance chocolatito v bam fight before the end of this year i'm taking chocolatito
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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Spicoli
Bam and Chocolatito would be an outstanding fight on the inside but footwork and hand speed of Bam might give him nightmares. He's one of the young guys who seems to have his feet and hands totally unified, always punching with the shifts regardless of direction.
Estrada and Chocolatito need to make the 3rd meeting happen and sort it out. See who wants to hold the torch to Bam to see if Bam is ready for that step. Have to think Bam takes another fight before years end in the interim.
Yup, no way Chocolatito’s feet match Bam. Absolutely no way. I think people picking Chocolatito in this matchup are not even considering the matchup.
It’s a beat down and it won’t happen because matchmakers know that.
Which I hope is not a slight on Chocolatito. Chocolatito himself
would probably take it, given his career path. He's one of those champs I admire that have always taken on all comers... always. But let's face it. He's 35. Ancient for that weight division. Bam is a fresh-faced 22. Lots more gas in that tank. Question is... would it still look like a beatdown had they faced each other in one of these theoretical prime vs prime encounters?
it is also chocolatito's fourth weight class & people thought he was finished after the second srisaket fight & that was almost five years ago. i'd prefer to see chocolatito win the third el gallo fight & retire. but if by some chance chocolatito v bam fight before the end of this year i'm taking chocolatito
Good point. Even more admirable. He's been champ in the lower four weight divisions. Surpassed the late, great Alexis Arguello in that regard.
I'd have to think about a fight with Bam, though. I might lean toward Bam, but I can't see it being a "beatdown."
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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Bam and Chocolatito would be an outstanding fight on the inside but footwork and hand speed of Bam might give him nightmares. He's one of the young guys who seems to have his feet and hands totally unified, always punching with the shifts regardless of direction.
Estrada and Chocolatito need to make the 3rd meeting happen and sort it out. See who wants to hold the torch to Bam to see if Bam is ready for that step. Have to think Bam takes another fight before years end in the interim.
Yup, no way Chocolatito’s feet match Bam. Absolutely no way. I think people picking Chocolatito in this matchup are not even considering the matchup.
It’s a beat down and it won’t happen because matchmakers know that.
Which I hope is not a slight on Chocolatito. Chocolatito himself
would probably take it, given his career path. He's one of those champs I admire that have always taken on all comers... always. But let's face it. He's 35. Ancient for that weight division. Bam is a fresh-faced 22. Lots more gas in that tank. Question is... would it still look like a beatdown had they faced each other in one of these theoretical prime vs prime encounters?
it is also chocolatito's fourth weight class & people thought he was finished after the second srisaket fight & that was almost five years ago. i'd prefer to see chocolatito win the third el gallo fight & retire. but if by some chance chocolatito v bam fight before the end of this year i'm taking chocolatito
Good point. Even more admirable. He's been champ in the lower four weight divisions. Surpassed the late, great Alexis Arguello in that regard.
I'd have to think about a fight with Bam, though. I might lean toward Bam, but I can't see it being a "beatdown."
if someone wants to say i am not considering the match up, that is fine but i have mentioned bam on this site well before this year & am well familiar with him
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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TitoFan
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Ron Swanson
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Spicoli
Bam and Chocolatito would be an outstanding fight on the inside but footwork and hand speed of Bam might give him nightmares. He's one of the young guys who seems to have his feet and hands totally unified, always punching with the shifts regardless of direction.
Estrada and Chocolatito need to make the 3rd meeting happen and sort it out. See who wants to hold the torch to Bam to see if Bam is ready for that step. Have to think Bam takes another fight before years end in the interim.
Yup, no way Chocolatito’s feet match Bam. Absolutely no way. I think people picking Chocolatito in this matchup are not even considering the matchup.
It’s a beat down and it won’t happen because matchmakers know that.
Which I hope is not a slight on Chocolatito. Chocolatito himself
would probably take it, given his career path. He's one of those champs I admire that have always taken on all comers... always. But let's face it. He's 35. Ancient for that weight division. Bam is a fresh-faced 22. Lots more gas in that tank. Question is... would it still look like a beatdown had they faced each other in one of these theoretical prime vs prime encounters?
No, Chocolatito was an animal. I mean no slight to him. Just, like you said, he’s ancient for his size. But people are suggesting he would beat Bam now, and I don’t know how they can watch Bam move and draw that conclusion
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
i can see bam moving to one twelve for his next fight
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Re: jesse bam rodriguez v srisaket sor rungvisai june twenty fifth
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It was a very impressive performance from Jesse Rodriguez but the hype from the commentators seems over the top at this stage.
Who would you favor over him from 108-115?
Chocolatito, Estrada and Sunny Edwards.
no love for junto nakatani?
