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Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Brock…..The “Flip flop” King. ;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou have changed your opinion, all because of the cut?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
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Originally Posted by TIC
Oleksandr Usyk has told Tyson Fury to not 'be afraid' as he delivered a nine-word message to the WBC king.
Quoted by BBC Sport, Usyk was asked to give a message to the Brit, where he said: "Tyson, hi my brother."
He then stated: "Don't be afraid. I will not leave you alone."
It was recently revealed that Usyk missed the birth of his fourth child while training in Spain before the fight postponement was announced.
And Usyk has now insisted that Fury will have to play by his rules, with an £8million penalty on the line if either man backs out of the contest.
He remarked: "I'm not judging anyone. But the thing is we have to treat this more seriously, this is very important and we have to be cautious.
"We have to treat this professionally. We have to spend every minute in the ring with the intention of having respect for our opponent.
"To judge someone for his mistakes is a weakness. I feel very well and even if someone is trying to play me they are playing by my rules.
"I sacrificed all the dates I wanted to spend with my family, Christmas, New Year, the birthday of my second son and the birth of my daughter.
"I should have been around my wife."
Usyk's manager Klimas ripped Fury following the bombshell news, where he labelled his client's opponent as a 'f***ing coward'.
https://talksport.com/sport/1739705/...ght-postponed/
i just need to combine the vids and ill upload i didn't even need to use prime deon you will be exposed very bad for lyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Keep that crap off this thread. Many thanks
You actually went back and reposted that? You're the toddler who discovers the S-bomb and says it in a room full of adults. Everyone initially chuckles once or twice. Then by the 5th or in this case the 99th time it's lost its "haha oh my" luster and the adults just want the little obnoxious shat put down for a needed nap. Night JoeQuote:
Originally Posted by joe smithi just need to combine the vids and ill upload i didn't even need to use prime deon you will be exposed very bad for lyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Joe Schmo………………gooooooooooooone! ;D;D;D
Good riddance.
Gone?
Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk’s undisputed world heavyweight title fight could be decided by six judges after a drastic new scoring system was suggested.
That is if World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman has his way, with the Mexican keen to double the usual allocation of three judges for the 18 May bout.
Motivated by the controversial decision in the draw between his organization’s featherweight champion Rey Vargas and Nick Ball, with the Briton denied victory despite scoring knockdowns in the eighth and 11th rounds on the undercard of Anthony Joshua against Francis Ngannou.
“What we saw last week in Saudi Arabia was another example of how fragile officiating worldwide continues to be,” Sulaiman told Boxing Scene.
“We saw one judge have it one way big and another judge having the other guy winning. Controversy like that in the Fury-Usyk fight will kill boxing.”
And Sulaiman has decided to apply for an emergency petition to gain the support of the WBO, WBA and IBF, in addition to the Fury, Usyk and the fighters’ promoters to sanction a six-judge panel.
Sulaiman’s idea is that six judges will further reduce the effect of a bad scorecard or two and confirm the rightful winner.
The idea is thought to be a long shot, however, and Sulaiman concedes it will be met with “lots of resistance,” but he hopes it could be utilised for a “major, major fight”.
“Fights, especially those at this highest level, deserve this and so I’m putting forward this proposal now to all sanctioning bodies, promoters and fighters,” Sulaiman added. “It has to be something we all agree on.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...a8758c3&ei=204
Well there's absolutely no doubt among any of us that we have seen some absolutely atrocious officiating over the last several years and whatever they can come up with to counteract that I would be all for but I don't know if this particular setup would be effective. Six judges? Why six? Why not an odd number which would sort of be tie breaking in nature? If it ever came to that tiebreaker
the wbc choosing such a big fight to experiment sounds on par for them. probably trying to find a way to rob oleksandr
The Sausage will get ~rocked~, so no need for any judges. Only the timekeeper to count to 10
Fury wins by simple tactic. Jab and move, grab when Usyk tries to get in range. Usyk getting his head pushed down more than Mia Khalifa for a 12 round stinker. Place your bets.
Yeh that's a major elephant in the room. The sudden urgency to petition other bodies to go along with 6 judges. Basically highlighting a historical all too common problem on the sport and feigning a practiced and workable fix. Ol Mauricio really does think fans are simple suckers. Now I actually trust the cards even less ;D
Gappy tooth ugly rat face gets jabbed and wrestled, jabbed and wrestled, jabbed and wrestled, worn down by The Big, Big Behemoth, after 8 rounds of being manhandled like a Little Shithouse, he gasses, he gets knocked the fuck out in about 9 or 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by KickMuck
Fury doesn't have what it takes anymore, if he ever really did to defeat a boxer like Usyk. Usyk performs his best against taller fighters. Fury also doesn't do well against southpaws. Wallin landed his left cleanly and the boxing novice Ngannou gave Fury all kinds of grief when fighting southpaw. With Usyk's gas tank he might get Fury out of there.
agit kabayel v frank sanchez is a good addition
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Sausage
Rabbit
Shithouse
Tyson Fury destroys him to the body and knocks him out
David Nyika has a decent test in front of him in unbeaten Michael SeitzQuote:
Originally Posted by TIC
Usyk is going to go the route of Sergey kovalev, he's overstretched and over taxed by fighting AJ twice it took too much out of him and those were his two best performances just like Roy Jones went up and then it was never the same after he fought Ruiz now you will see this Gabby tooth brat face sausage rabbit get destroyed to the body by the Gypsy Kings devastating body attack who cares about the head moving because the body is always right there Tyson Fury is going to annihilate the rabbit
;D;D 2 relatively easy fights against AJ took a lot less out of Usyk than 5 life and death fights that Fury had. 3 with Wilder, one with Wallin and one with Ngannou.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Without realising it , you might have stumbled across some very valid reasons why Fury could lose. The standard of opponent that he’s going life and death with is getting increasingly worse, meaning he is getting increasingly worse.
you’ve just persuaded me to put my bet on. Cheers Brock.;)
Go ahead and make your bet but first listen to this. It's true that Wilder took more out of Fury than AJ took out of the rabbit but remember that the rabbit is small just a little sausage really so he really got drained. Do you remember that right hand to that AJ called him with in the 9th round of the second fight? That right hand shook him from his skull right down his neck through his chest down to his toes and I remember thinking how dehumanizing it was. It reminded me of how George Foreman lifted Joe Frazier off the ground with an uppercut. It's so dehumanizing and mentally cannot be forgotten by the fighter on the receiving end. That one right hand that AJ landed was a crushing blow to the rabbit and will have lasting effects. You might think one punch is not enough to do it but remember one punch is enough to kill a fighter even if it's a left jab at the wrong moment the same way your avatar ironically Primo carnera killed Ernie schaff with a left jab at the right spot at the right time if you watch the video. it was a mere left jab but Primo carnera landed it at the right time in the right spot and it killed another man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera;D;D 2 relatively easy fights against AJ took a lot less out of Usyk than 5 life and death fights that Fury had. 3 with Wilder, one with Wallin and one with Ngannou.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Without realising it , you might have stumbled across some very valid reasons why Fury could lose. The standard of opponent that he’s going life and death with is getting increasingly worse, meaning he is getting increasingly worse.
you’ve just persuaded me to put my bet on. Cheers Brock.;)
I'm the first to mention it out of any boxing fan in the history of the world but that right hand that AJ landed on the rabbit in the 9th round shook the rabbit in a way that it did permanent damage to the rabbit.
So yes if you watch the way his skeleton shook after that right hand it almost made you feel sorry for him the same way you felt sorry for Joe Frazier being lifted off the ground by Foreman. And it's right here it was never the same after that and neither will the rabbit be
So it is true that Wilder was much more devastating to Fury especially after three fights but in this case remember that Fury is a big man so he can absorb that devastating power, whereas the rabbit is a very small little sausage, a little rat-faced s*** house, so what AJ did to him over those 24 rounds will have permanently shattered him just enough that he will become annihilated by the Gypsy King
If I hadn’t seen videos of you selling mouldy fruit on the Mexican Border , I would be convinced by the way you write that you actually were Tyson Fury!! He sure has done a brainwash number on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellGo ahead and make your bet but first listen to this. It's true that Wilder took more out of Fury than AJ took out of the rabbit but remember that the rabbit is small just a little sausage really so he really got drained. Do you remember that right hand to that AJ called him with in the 9th round of the second fight? That right hand shook him from his skull right down his neck through his chest down to his toes and I remember thinking how dehumanizing it was. It reminded me of how George Foreman lifted Joe Frazier off the ground with an uppercut. It's so dehumanizing and mentally cannot be forgotten by the fighter on the receiving end. That one right hand that AJ landed was a crushing blow to the rabbit and will have lasting effects. You might think one punch is not enough to do it but remember one punch is enough to kill a fighter even if it's a left jab at the wrong moment the same way your avatar ironically Primo carnera killed Ernie schaff with a left jab at the right spot at the right time if you watch the video. it was a mere left jab but Primo carnera landed it at the right time in the right spot and it killed another man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera;D;D 2 relatively easy fights against AJ took a lot less out of Usyk than 5 life and death fights that Fury had. 3 with Wilder, one with Wallin and one with Ngannou.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Without realising it , you might have stumbled across some very valid reasons why Fury could lose. The standard of opponent that he’s going life and death with is getting increasingly worse, meaning he is getting increasingly worse.
you’ve just persuaded me to put my bet on. Cheers Brock.;)
I'm the first to mention it out of any boxing fan in the history of the world but that right hand that AJ landed on the rabbit in the 9th round shook the rabbit in a way that it did permanent damage to the rabbit.
So yes if you watch the way his skeleton shook after that right hand it almost made you feel sorry for him the same way you felt sorry for Joe Frazier being lifted off the ground by Foreman. And it's right here it was never the same after that and neither will the rabbit be
So it is true that Wilder was much more devastating to Fury especially after three fights but in this case remember that Fury is a big man so he can absorb that devastating power, whereas the rabbit is a very small little sausage, a little rat-faced s*** house, so what AJ did to him over those 24 rounds will have permanently shattered him just enough that he will become annihilated by the Gypsy King
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Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIf I hadn’t seen videos of you selling mouldy fruit on the Mexican Border , I would be convinced by the way you write that you actually were Tyson Fury!! He sure has done a brainwash number on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellGo ahead and make your bet but first listen to this. It's true that Wilder took more out of Fury than AJ took out of the rabbit but remember that the rabbit is small just a little sausage really so he really got drained. Do you remember that right hand to that AJ called him with in the 9th round of the second fight? That right hand shook him from his skull right down his neck through his chest down to his toes and I remember thinking how dehumanizing it was. It reminded me of how George Foreman lifted Joe Frazier off the ground with an uppercut. It's so dehumanizing and mentally cannot be forgotten by the fighter on the receiving end. That one right hand that AJ landed was a crushing blow to the rabbit and will have lasting effects. You might think one punch is not enough to do it but remember one punch is enough to kill a fighter even if it's a left jab at the wrong moment the same way your avatar ironically Primo carnera killed Ernie schaff with a left jab at the right spot at the right time if you watch the video. it was a mere left jab but Primo carnera landed it at the right time in the right spot and it killed another man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera;D;D 2 relatively easy fights against AJ took a lot less out of Usyk than 5 life and death fights that Fury had. 3 with Wilder, one with Wallin and one with Ngannou.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Without realising it , you might have stumbled across some very valid reasons why Fury could lose. The standard of opponent that he’s going life and death with is getting increasingly worse, meaning he is getting increasingly worse.
you’ve just persuaded me to put my bet on. Cheers Brock.;)
I'm the first to mention it out of any boxing fan in the history of the world but that right hand that AJ landed on the rabbit in the 9th round shook the rabbit in a way that it did permanent damage to the rabbit.
So yes if you watch the way his skeleton shook after that right hand it almost made you feel sorry for him the same way you felt sorry for Joe Frazier being lifted off the ground by Foreman. And it's right here it was never the same after that and neither will the rabbit be
So it is true that Wilder was much more devastating to Fury especially after three fights but in this case remember that Fury is a big man so he can absorb that devastating power, whereas the rabbit is a very small little sausage, a little rat-faced s*** house, so what AJ did to him over those 24 rounds will have permanently shattered him just enough that he will become annihilated by the Gypsy King
Not all of the fruit was moldy. The mangoes yes. Some of the avocados may have been. Not all. For sure the limes were fresh.
Tyson Fury has proven that he always finds a way to win even on a horrible night unlike AJ who has had plenty of horrible nights and did not get the win
That is the sign of a true unbeatable champion. Tyson Fury definitely won the first fight with Wilder despite the two knockdowns.
Tyson Fury is the greatest British heavyweight of all time
No sausage is going to beat him
Tyson Fury is nowhere near the greatest British Heavyweight of all time. A legend in his own lunchtime maybe. Mcdermott beat him. If it wasn't O' Connor reffing who was beaten by Mcdermott 's Dad and trainer, that would be a loss. Then factor in his being knocked down by cruiserweight Cunningham, fighting Wilder and Chisora multiple times whilst refusing to defend the belt against Wlad after being caught doping. Avoided Ruiz Jr ,went life and death with Wallin and Ngou. He is seriously overrated. Parker and Joshua showed how dire Fury is with the ease they dealt with Ngou and Wilder and still Fury fan boys will not have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraIf I hadn’t seen videos of you selling mouldy fruit on the Mexican Border , I would be convinced by the way you write that you actually were Tyson Fury!! He sure has done a brainwash number on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBellGo ahead and make your bet but first listen to this. It's true that Wilder took more out of Fury than AJ took out of the rabbit but remember that the rabbit is small just a little sausage really so he really got drained. Do you remember that right hand to that AJ called him with in the 9th round of the second fight? That right hand shook him from his skull right down his neck through his chest down to his toes and I remember thinking how dehumanizing it was. It reminded me of how George Foreman lifted Joe Frazier off the ground with an uppercut. It's so dehumanizing and mentally cannot be forgotten by the fighter on the receiving end. That one right hand that AJ landed was a crushing blow to the rabbit and will have lasting effects. You might think one punch is not enough to do it but remember one punch is enough to kill a fighter even if it's a left jab at the wrong moment the same way your avatar ironically Primo carnera killed Ernie schaff with a left jab at the right spot at the right time if you watch the video. it was a mere left jab but Primo carnera landed it at the right time in the right spot and it killed another man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera;D;D 2 relatively easy fights against AJ took a lot less out of Usyk than 5 life and death fights that Fury had. 3 with Wilder, one with Wallin and one with Ngannou.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell
Without realising it , you might have stumbled across some very valid reasons why Fury could lose. The standard of opponent that he’s going life and death with is getting increasingly worse, meaning he is getting increasingly worse.
you’ve just persuaded me to put my bet on. Cheers Brock.;)
I'm the first to mention it out of any boxing fan in the history of the world but that right hand that AJ landed on the rabbit in the 9th round shook the rabbit in a way that it did permanent damage to the rabbit.
So yes if you watch the way his skeleton shook after that right hand it almost made you feel sorry for him the same way you felt sorry for Joe Frazier being lifted off the ground by Foreman. And it's right here it was never the same after that and neither will the rabbit be
So it is true that Wilder was much more devastating to Fury especially after three fights but in this case remember that Fury is a big man so he can absorb that devastating power, whereas the rabbit is a very small little sausage, a little rat-faced s*** house, so what AJ did to him over those 24 rounds will have permanently shattered him just enough that he will become annihilated by the Gypsy King
Not all of the fruit was moldy. The mangoes yes. Some of the avocados may have been. Not all. For sure the limes were fresh.
Tyson Fury has proven that he always finds a way to win even on a horrible night unlike AJ who has had plenty of horrible nights and did not get the win
That is the sign of a true unbeatable champion. Tyson Fury definitely won the first fight with Wilder despite the two knockdowns.
Tyson Fury is the greatest British heavyweight of all time
No sausage is going to beat him
Fitzsimmons,Farr,Cooper,Bruno,Joshua,Haye,Hide, Mason, Lewis etc all Muller him.
Dosser.
All doubts about Tyson Fury greatness will be answered when he beats Usyk and become the first undisputed heavyweight champion this century.
Obviously with Brock , I humour his nuggets of comedy gold. But I would love to know where you draw your confidence in Fury from ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Please justify his performances against Wallin and Ngannou ?
That Fury didn’t look like one of the ATG’s in my book.
How many nights did Muhammad Ali have what he was not on the ball and squeaked by with a decision?
Fury had a bad cut against Wallin and he did not take Francis seriously at all. He has himself to blame for that one but whenever he faces a real threat he prepares himself properly. He was flawless against Whyte, who could not come near him and Chisora was handled easily enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraObviously with Brock , I humour his nuggets of comedy gold. But I would love to know where you draw your confidence in Fury from ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Please justify his performances against Wallin and Ngannou ?
That Fury didn’t look like one of the ATG’s in my book.
Watch what he does to Usyk.
And that's always been the big question for me - can Fury be prime Fury again (Wilder II for me).
I'm not so sure. If he can he wins.
Joshua's fight with Whyte was far more emphatic and entertaining 7 years earlier. Chisora was finished by Haye years ago and was never all that anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFury had a bad cut against Wallin and he did not take Francis seriously at all. He has himself to blame for that one but whenever he faces a real threat he prepares himself properly. He was flawless against Whyte, who could not come near him and Chisora was handled easily enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraObviously with Brock , I humour his nuggets of comedy gold. But I would love to know where you draw your confidence in Fury from ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Please justify his performances against Wallin and Ngannou ?
That Fury didn’t look like one of the ATG’s in my book.
Watch what he does to Usyk.
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Wilder is garbage. His best opponent is Ortiz who is about 100 years old now. So Fury has fought virtually nobody of note in his entire smoke and mirrors career. He is a chump and has bottled defences and chances to fight any real HW threats. On top of that he is juiced to the eyeballs and a complete disgrace to British Boxing. I really do not see what everyone is raving about.
Joshua was wobbled and hurt by Whyte in the 2nd round. Fury victory was far more impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzJoshua's fight with Whyte was far more emphatic and entertaining 7 years earlier. Chisora was finished by Haye years ago and was never all that anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterFury had a bad cut against Wallin and he did not take Francis seriously at all. He has himself to blame for that one but whenever he faces a real threat he prepares himself properly. He was flawless against Whyte, who could not come near him and Chisora was handled easily enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraObviously with Brock , I humour his nuggets of comedy gold. But I would love to know where you draw your confidence in Fury from ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Please justify his performances against Wallin and Ngannou ?
That Fury didn’t look like one of the ATG’s in my book.
Watch what he does to Usyk.
Fury beat Wlad away whilst being a huge underdog.
After Usyk, AJ will be next so all our questions will be answered.
Beanz says chump but let's see beanz make HW Champion of the world. Not easy for chumps.
Beanz may be Chumpion but Big Fury is Da Champ.
Nobody can touch the guy
I've lost a lot of respect for Fury these past two years but I hope May 18th will answer everything we need to know.
Bring it on.
I will explain to The forum what greatness is using examples from history. Greatness means you always find a way to win. Legally of course. You always find a way to win even on your worst night. Even when your timing is off and you are out of shape and your conditioning is less than perfect and you misjudged your opponent or underrated your opponent. It is in those moments that you draw upon something that is independent of your training but in fact it is your true sign of greatness that you can draw upon in your worst hour and still win.
This I have explained to now to the forum. Tyson Fury always finds a way to win. This is what makes him the greatest British heavyweight of all time
He would literally pole ax audley Harrison and Frank Bruno for example.
Only Lennox Lewis would give him problems but on Tyson's best night he beats Lennox Lewis in the same way he beat Vladimir Klitschko
It is crystal clear that Tyson Fury won the first fight with deontay Wilder but if that fight had not been ruled a draw there would not have been a rubber match and hundreds of millions of dollars would have been lost in a potential third fight
Tyson Fury won that fight despite two knockdowns and practically evened up the round when he was knocked down the second time
How many off nights or bad nights did Muhammad Ali have and yet he always pulled out the victory? And still we consider him an all-time great if not the greatest of all time.
Like Larry Holmes getting up from that shotgun overhand right from Ernie shavers
Like Muhammad Ali getting up from that left hook in the 15th round by Joe Frazier
Who would be able to get up after 6 ? knockdowns at the hands of deontay wilder?
True sign of all time greatness that Tyson Fury got up after those piercing right hands by deontay Wilder