Previously...on LOST!

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I'm on episode 9. So yeah I'm definitely on spoiler alert.

Isn't that how it worked with Farraday and Desmond though? He only remembered at a time in the present after they went back to the past.

And why didn't Russo remember Jin earlier in the series but Widmore remembered Locke? I guess Locke could have just made more of an impression but you would think Jin was a big enough deal for Russo to remember.

Not saying you're not right, I just think there are some questions about the whole thing. Of course it would be silly to think everything will be resolved in a neat fashion, I decided a long time ago that there would just be some inconsistencies that are never dealt with.

Another thing about the Lost boards is their hilarious. They get crazy heated, this one dude just lost it at someone else and was like "for god's sake that goes against EVERY rule of time travel" ;D

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HAHAHAH, that is classic.

You will understand it better as you watch the rest of the season.. The whole desmond thing was a different type of "time travel" compared to what you see in season 5 i think..

i believe it was faraday who explains it as when you go back in time, you're not in the past.. you're in the present.. I don't remember exactly when certain things take place so i'm not going to get into detail but rest assured that it will make sense to at least around 90% hahah.

Ok so I do remember that Farraday said something about Desmond being a special case so I'm probably wrong.

But still the Jin/Russo thing doesn't make sense in the context of the show. Assuming there's all one timeline (not that I really understand that, I just act like I do) and the Desmond thing was a one off Russo had to have remembered Jin. At first I entertained the possibility that she just forgot because it had been so long but that's totally un Lost like. Then I thought fuck that he dissappeared in front of her eyes. Haha, that's something you would remember. I can't remember people that I just fleetingly met twenty years ago, unless it was that guy who dissappeared in front of my eyes.

What probably happened is that although I've heard some quotes that the Lost people all along knew exactly what was going to happen throughout the show that they didn't really plan this and therefore didn't have Russo seem to in some way recognize Jin earlier and now she's dead. Its probably just an inconsistency.

So I take it that thing Alpert did to Ben makes it so in the present/his present blah blah he actually doesn't remember what Sayid did to him.

I hate this show :(

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

So I take it that thing Alpert did to Ben makes it so in the present/his present blah blah he actually doesn't remember what Sayid did to him.

I hate this show :(

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sorry, i haven't watched those episodes since it ended, so i don't know the details, but i don't remember being this confused lol.. you're thinking too much into it i think..

if i went back in time, to when you were 10, and said something to you, your present body, the one im talking to right now, would not know of this memory.. that's how i understand it.... there is a scene that you may not have seen involving alpert, and thats all i'll say cause it's a cool scene, where he's in the past, and gives something to someone for the future, because that someone already lived that scene out and knew what needed to happen.. but even though Alpert ALSO did, technically, because now he's in the past, he didn't know that he did this action in the future..

that was probably confusing, but it will make sense when you see it, if you haven't already..

Don't know if you have gotten that far but the scene with Hurley and Niles talking over the time travel while sitting in the house sums it up.....Alot of wtf moments ....you feel like your playing catch up through the whole season

Its all remarkably silly. I mean I still like the show but I'm actually getting a little annoyed with it.

I get the basics, its the "Losties" present while their past is actually in the future and its Ben's, Horace's "past" and all of that.

"if i went back in time, to when you were 10, and said something to you, your present body, the one im talking to right now, would not know of this memory"

But Widmore clearly did. He remembered in his present Locke going back, walking into their camp and talking to Alpert.

What I'm saying with Alpert is Ben's present doesn't remember it because Alpert said that if he fixed him after he was shot by Sayid he would lose all memory of what happened related to that event.

I'm not totally sure of what you're talking about in the last half of that paragraph. ;D Its a little late.

I basically get it. I'm still a little iffy on some of the you can't change anything theory. I'm not sure their totally consistent about it. Not about life and death things but more subtle stuff.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Don't know if you have gotten that far but the scene with Hurley and Niles talking over the time travel while sitting in the house sums it up.....Alot of wtf moments ....you feel like your playing catch up through the whole season

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Yeah and I basically knew that stuff before, that scene was like something out of a message board, actually kind of funny. The only thing that I was wondering about, if they've kind of gone off the timeline and their present is them sitting there and their past was actually 2004 or whatever then why does he say this conversation already happened but they didn't actually have it. Or something like that.

But yeah I think I get the basics of the Lost time travel theory, just still some questions about parts of it. But meh Lost has always had its slightly confusing moments.

One thing that I didn't get was Hurley and Miles talking about the wheel. Because on screen they've never seen it (only Locke, Ben and Christian have) and as far as I know on screen they've never had a conversation about it. I guess its written up to some off screen conversation. Because Ben certainly didn't tell them and neither did Locke.

lets talk after you finish the last season, i don't want to give anything away..

prepare to have your mind blown.

I'm kidding when I say I hate this show though, or even this season. This has actually been one of my favorite seasons so far. Just some minor gripes.

I think I just ran across a few spoilers, one of which has to do with why they kept pushing the button. Oh well, Google is not the Lost fans friend. LOL I googled some something so minor and the first entry was COMPLETELY not what I was asking. Fuck. ;D

oh well on to episode 12. Something about the smoke monster. I'm determined to finish this by tomorrow because I have to re-enter the real world Wednesday.

LOL as mindblowing as some stuff on this show is they sometimes are so melodramatic with completely predictable stuff. Ben sitting in the others camp recovering when the British guy comes in and talks to him, tells him the Island saved him, Ben asks him who he is, super melodramatic music, "I'm Charles, Charles Widmore", well no shit I knew that the second he walked in to the tent.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I'm kidding when I say I hate this show though, or even this season. This has actually been one of my favorite seasons so far. Just some minor gripes.

I think I just ran across a few spoilers, one of which has to do with why they kept pushing the button. Oh well, Google is not the Lost fans friend. LOL I googled some something so minor and the first entry was COMPLETELY not what I was asking. Fuck. ;D

oh well on to episode 12. Something about the smoke monster. I'm determined to finish this by tomorrow because I have to re-enter the real world Wednesday.

LOL as mindblowing as some stuff on this show is they sometimes are so melodramatic with completely predictable stuff. Ben sitting in the others camp recovering when the British guy comes in and talks to him, tells him the Island saved him, Ben asks him who he is, super melodramatic music, "I'm Charles, Charles Widmore", well no shit I knew that the second he walked in to the tent.

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hahah yeah.. real suspensful and deep!! hahah..

the button isn't anything special, so i wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it.. stop freaking googling!!

I was convinced for the first two seasons that they were just making it up as they went.Not to give it away but Ive learned that you can miss key portions and be totally lost.It definatly seems to take a turn...good vs. Evil etc.....just sit back and soak up the rest you have yet to see.This season was very good and next season is the last.I miss Echo

How can anyone not like time travel :cwm13:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-NBL...eature=related

IMO Ben and Locke are the stars of the show. Jack started off so important but has fizzled a bit (although I'm sure he'll have a huge role) plus I don't really like him as a character. Kate's saving grace is she's pretty hot. But I could do without her constant pouty look, melodramatic acting, etc. At least she's hot.

Ben, Locke, Sawyer, Juliet, Hurley are the best characters.

I don't know what is the deal with that chick who brought Sayid on board, "what's in the shadow of the statue" :confused:

And I'm a bit unclear about the ending with Ben's daughter, or something presented as his daughter, telling him to go with Locke.

The smoke monster can take human forms? Or that was something else? I don't know.

Good episode though.

Ok so I think I've got everything pretty well figured out about the show in general, the time traveling, etc. Then John takes Locke and Alpert and tells him the guy's gonna come out of the woods and Alpert's gonna have to tell him he's gotta die, and etc., and obviously out comes John.

I just watched it so I haven't given it much thought but I'm not sure how that happened.

Ok I guess one of the skips in time just took him to the future at the time that Locke and Sun and Ben were there with Alpert.

John is awesome but he's got such a smug look on his face all the time this year ;D OOOHHHH the island talks to me.

You'll love the finale. Or hate it. Or both. One of those...