WHY LENNOX LEWISIS TRULY A FAKE CHAMPION.

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Originally Posted by Britkid

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Wlad is a two time WORLD CHAMP...WBO and now the IBF and IBO titles.

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Well if you are counting alphabet crap, then Wlad is way short of my record, of being SHBF Champion for nearly 19 years now.

I must be the Greatest! ;)

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Since when has the IBF been a crap title? Lennox held it! WBO and IBO I can understand but the IBF...please

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by Britkid

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Wlad is a two time WORLD CHAMP...WBO and now the IBF and IBO titles.

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Well if you are counting alphabet crap, then Wlad is way short of my record, of being SHBF Champion for nearly 19 years now.

I must be the Greatest! ;)

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Since when has the IBF been a crap title? Lennox held it! WBO and IBO I can understand but the IBF...please

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IBF is without doubt the proven most corrupt of all the alphabet organizations. Bob Lee did time for the corruption in that organization!!!! ;)

Well fine RIDDLE ME THIS, what title holder right now could beat Wlad?

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well fine RIDDLE ME THIS, what title holder right now could beat Wlad?

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I have already said Wlad is the #1 contender for the Heavyweight Championship of the World. I would like to see him fight either Rahman or Lyakhovich, so the winner can claim the vacant Heavyweight Championship of the World.

And providing he prepares properly and listens to Manny, he should be capable of beating either...fairly easily. ;)

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Originally Posted by wladimirISback

WELL TO START OF IN THE OLYMPIC LENNOX HAD FAIL TO WIN THE GOLD MEDAL AT 18, ALSO FAILED TO WIN THE SILVER. SO LENNOX WAITED ANOTHER 4 YEARS TO FIGHT THE YOUNGER KIDS BECAUSE HE COULD'T BEAT THE KID HIS OWN AGE AND FINALY MANAGE TO WIN IT AT 22 YEARS OLD.
LENNOX TURNED PROFESSIONAL AFTER THE OLYMPICS AND TOOK ABOUT 6 MORE YEARS TO CLAIM THE WBC BELT. HE WAS QUICKLY WIPED OUT BY OLIVER MCALL IN LESS THAN 2 FULL ROUNDS.
LENNOX HAD A CHANCE TO FIGHT TYSON(PAST HIS PEAK) WHO HAD JUST COME OUT OF JAIL, BUT INSTEAD LENNOX TOOK MONEY AND AVOIDED THE FIGHT. LENNOX IS SAME GUY WHO SAID AFTER HIS RETIRE THAT HE NEVER FOUGHT FOR MONEY BUT FOR GLORY.
ANYWAY LENNOX WENT ON TO HAVE A REMATCH WITH OLIVER MCALL AND AT THIS TIME OLIVER MCALL WAS A NOBODY AND OLD, OLIVER MCALL WAS SO PATHETIC AT THE TIME THAT HE HAD LOST TO A JOKE LIKE FRANK BRUNO, 2 YEARS BEFORE THE OF REMATCH WITH LENNOX.
AS OLIVER MCALL DIDN'T KNOCK LENNOX OUT IN 2ND ROUND AGAIN, OLIVER FROM THE THIRD ROUND AND SO ON BEGAN TO JUST WALKED AROUND IN THE RING, AS LENNOX HIT HIM WITH HIS BEST SHOT AND STILL COULDN'T TROUBLE MCALL. THE FIGHT WAS STOPPED IN THE FIFTH ROUND AS MCALL WAS MORE INTERESTED IN WALKING AROUND THE RINGS. THE ONLY PERSON TO BLAME IS MCALL
* SO WHAT MCALL IF U DID'T PREPARE PROPLEY FOR THIS FIGHT? (BECAUSE OF OVERCONFIDENT)
* SO WHAT MCALL IF UR OLD ?
* SO WHAT IF U DIDN'T KNOCK LENNOX LEWIS OUT IN 2ND ROUND?
WELL MCALL U DID DO IT LAST TIME WID 1 PUNCH IT MAY HAVE TOOK 6 ROUNDS FOR MCALL TO WIN BUT BECAUSE OF MCALL COCKYNESS, LENNOX MAY HAVE WON THE FIGHT, BUT STILL HAS NEVER BEAT MCALL.
LENNOX WENT ON TO FIGHT A OLD HOLYFIELD AND A OLD TYSON, THE SAME TYSON THAT WAS WIPED OUT BY DANNY WILLIAMS IN 4 ROUNDS. LENNOX HAD TAKED 8 ROUNDS TO DO THE SAME JOB TO TYSON.
LENNOX THEN HAD TO RETIRE BEFORE THE KLITSCHKO WIPED HIM OUT, AS LENNOX WAS LUCKY THE FIGHT WAS STOPPED AFTER GETTING BEAT ON POINTS BY KLITSCHKO. KLITSCHKO HAD ONLY 11 DAYS TO PREPARE FOR THE FIGHT AS KIRK JOHNSON PULL OUT OF LENNOX FIGHT, LENNOX PREPARED FULL 12 WEEKS FOR THE FIGHT AND LITERALLY SAID THAT ''VITALI IS UP FOR A SHOCK BECAUSE HE NEVER EXPECTED TO FIGHT ME''
IMAGINE WHAT KLITSCHKO WOULD HAVE DONE BEING 12 WEEKS PREPARED, YES WE CAN IMAGINE KLITSCHKO DEMOLISHING HIM, WHY ELSE DID LENNOX RETIRE???????????????
ALSO LENNOX TURNED DOWN 21 MILLION AND ASKED FOR 50 MILLION POUNDS TO FIGHT VITALLY FOR A REMATCH.
LENNOX I THOUGH U DON'T FIGHT FOR MONEY?????????????????
WELL U PROBABLY DON'T, BUT 50 MILLION IS SOMETHING THAT LENNOX WILL NOT BE OFFERED FOR 1 FIGHT AND IF HE IS LENNOX WILL BE TOO OLD BY THEN. THIS IS A CLEVER WAY OF LENNOX GETTING AVOIDING KLITSCHKO. I MAYBE WRONG THAT LENNOX NEVER GOT OFFERED 50 MILLION TO FIGHT KLITSCHKO, BECAUSE WHEN KLITSCHKO RETIRED, HE DID SAY HE WOULD MAKE A COMEBACK, BUT ONLY IF LENNOX WILL GIVE HIM REMATCH AND LENNOX RULED OUT NO COMEBACK because he doesn't wana risk his legacy.
i would say " what legacy"

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very very good post. ive always felt that lennox was a phony. i also feel that wlad OR viatli would beat himon any day of the week(injurys not withstanding)

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Originally Posted by K2-Promotion

very very good post. ive always felt that lennox was a phony. i also feel that wlad OR viatli would beat himon any day of the week(injurys not withstanding)

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Then what happened on June 21, 2003; when Vitali had an opportunity to put that theory to the test, and failed? ;)

It seems people like to make losing winning Britkid. Sure Vitali was winning on points but it was Lennox that cut him up with a punch, lets Say Byrd had built a lead up(by 2 rounds) to the 10th round an Wlad had won the previous 2 rounds and was starting to take control and Byrd's eye was cut very bad and the ref and doctor decided to stop it. Now, the Klit fans would be on here saying "Wlad was gonna win, he was just starting to come on." ;)

*looks at the first post* *sharpens axe* on second thought..nope..its not worth it :'(

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Originally Posted by Starr

It seems people like to make losing winning Britkid. Sure Vitali was winning on points but it was Lennox that cut him up with a punch, lets Say Byrd had built a lead up(by 2 rounds) to the 10th round an Wlad had won the previous 2 rounds and was starting to take control and Byrd's eye was cut very bad and the ref and doctor decided to stop it. Now, the Klit fans would be on here saying "Wlad was gonna win, he was just starting to come on." ;)

*looks at the first post* *sharpens axe* on second thought..nope..its not worth it :'(

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Exactly Starr; a victory on a cut caused by a punch always has been a TKO. Hell before 1988 a victory on a cut by any means, fair or foul went down as a TKO win, and everyone just accepted it.

Imagine Minter/Hagler went down as a technical draw three? The dominant Middleweight of the 80s, possibly would have retired, never being a World Champ....

well byrds cut came from klitschko DOMINATING and scoring 2 knockdowns, and vitali was winning on ALL 3 SCORECARDS!!!

maybee if the fight was in nevada lennox would have a chance at being ahead on cards, but vitali was still going strong WITH that cut, he was not begining to wane and if he had not been cut he would have been even less likley to perform poorly as the fight went on

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

well byrds cut came from klitschko DOMINATING and scoring 2 knockdowns, and vitali was winning on ALL 3 SCORECARDS!!!

maybee if the fight was in nevada lennox would have a chance at being ahead on cards, but vitali was still going strong WITH that cut, he was not begining to wane and if he had not been cut he would have been even less likley to perform poorly as the fight went on

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1: Vitali choose to quit against Byrd

2: A cut caused by a fist, that leads to fight being stopped is a TKO win. The argument that Vitali was giving Lewis a hard fight and would of won, but for the cut, is the equivalent of saying Holmes was giving Tyson all he could handle, and if it was them three knockdowns he would of beaten Iron Mike; or if Spinks was not caught by them big punches he would of beaten Tyson; or Grant was doing great against Lewis, if you take out the knockdowns; or Frazier was planning to get knockdown half a dozen times by Foreman, so he could lead him into a false sense of security or Duran was on the verge of beating Hearns but for.... ;)

HELL NO, spinks wasnt giving tyson all he could handle...

vitali was WINNING, reguardless, and he didnt quit with a cut that would have made many give the ref the "i quit but im too scared to say it so wave it off" look

there is a big difference between not being able to move your arm w/o causing permanent damage and a cut

i dont say vitali won, just that he would have, and that he ws willing to lose his sight to beat lennox, and that he would CRUSH him in a rematch

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

HELL NO, spinks wasnt giving tyson all he could handle...

vitali was WINNING, reguardless, and he didnt quit with a cut that would have made many give the ref the "i quit but im too scared to say it so wave it off" look

there is a big difference between not being able to move your arm w/o causing permanent damage and a cut

i dont say vitali won, just that he would have, and that he ws willing to lose his sight to beat lennox, and that he would CRUSH him in a rematch

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I am saying Spinks would have won had he avoided Tyson's power punches, and Holmes would of beaten Tyson, but for the knockdowns, and Grant would of beaten Lewis, but for the knockdowns, and Frazier would of beaten Foreman, but for the knockdowns, and Duran would of beaten Hearns but for knockdowns.... ;)

my bad, i didnt mean spinks, i meant

HELL NO holmes wasnt beating tyson

he was in over his head and like 45 by the time that fight went down

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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

my bad, i didnt mean spinks, i meant

HELL NO holmes wasnt beating tyson

he was in over his head and like 45 by the time that fight went down

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Did you see the start of the fourth? Holmes was bouncing away on his toes, shuffling along, and bemusing his young rival ;)

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Originally Posted by wladimirISback

OK I AM A MORON

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Just figured I would fix up your quote so everyone knew what you meant there ISback. Have a sad click on me.