Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Where are u Big H? ;)
Oh I'm right here young un - dont worry ;)
I think he has taken the right route so far in talking the fights with Maussa and getiing 2 more belts, yes we all no the limitations of Maussa and as I've said I haven't seen Collazo yet so can't comment.
I aint biased about Ricky Hatton, I've always stated that I don't think he would PBF!!
When you look at what happened to Lacy, you have to think that Hatton is sensible in taking his time, the way MAB and JC Chavez did, at the end of the day he is a 3 time world champ (whatever anybody says) and his stock is pretty high right now! Better than than fighting PBF or Cotto ( his 2 main threats imo) before he was ready. Peronally I don't think he will ever be ready for PBF, but let's be honest who wiill??
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
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And if we're talking about opposition ,who at 140 or 147 has a bigger name than KT on their record
Henrey Brussels (who??)
Gatti - something like 10-5 for his previous 15 fights prior to PBF
Mitchell - Coming off a loss - to guess who Kosta Tszyu
Judah - Coming off a loss and already lost 3
But aren't we talking about Collazo not Tszyu. That victory is not in question is it.I think all three of those guys are better than collazo.
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I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
Just out of curiousity Manick...where does this arguement end?
I mean...your'e a fan of some fighter, correct?
I gotta say that you would defend your man to the end, right?
What's done is done...we may not all buy it...but just because the outcome & the performance was what Hatton promised...just because it wasn't what we expected...that doesn't mean that the kid doesn't have skills...nor does it mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance.
Can we atleast all agree on that?
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But aren't we talking about Collazo not Tszyu. That victory is not in question is it.I think all three of those guys are better than collazo.
I gotta disagree with you on one thing...Judah aint better than Collazo...atleast he sure as shat wasn't last night.
Look at it like this. Hatton meets his hype...he did it when he destroyed Kostya.
Judah has NEVER met his hype.
NEVER...so don't anyone say Corey fwockin Spinks.
Collazo was a more sound fighter all the way around based on any performance that Judah has had with any upper level opponents. He was focused & he got up from a knockdown to work out the end of the stretch...which I do think that he won.
Kostya & Mitchell are far superior fighters than both Collazo, IWO...but that was a while ago.
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
At 5'6 who expects Ricky to be at his best fighting true welterweights?
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Where are u Big H? ;)
Oh I'm right here young un - dont worry ;)
I think he has taken the right route so far in talking the fights with Maussa and getiing 2 more belts, yes we all no the limitations of Maussa and as I've said I haven't seen Collazo yet so can't comment.
I aint biased about Ricky Hatton, I've always stated that I don't think he would PBF!!
When you look at what happened to Lacy, you have to think that Hatton is sensible in taking his time, the way MAB and JC Chavez did, at the end of the day he is a 3 time world champ (whatever anybody says) and his stock is pretty high right now! Better than than fighting PBF or Cotto ( his 2 main threats imo) before he was ready. Peronally I don't think he will ever be ready for PBF, but let's be honest who wiill??
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
I didn't make any direct comment about the Collazo performance, all I said was every fighter has a bad day at the office, he's had 40 good ones prior to that. Look at Holyfiled in the 1st Moorer fight - it was a bad day at the office and he then went on to beat Tyson and avenge Moorer. All I was saying is figters have bad days like anybody else and regardless of the Collazo fight I think Hatton has proved a lot already and I am sure he will bounce back from WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD was a lacklustre performance.
I will be downloading it later so I can see for myself
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
Just out of curiousity Manick...where does this arguement end?
I mean...your'e a fan of some fighter, correct?
I gotta say that you would defend your man to the end, right?
What's done is done...we may not all buy it...but just because the outcome & the performance was what Hatton promised...just because it wasn't what we expected...that doesn't mean that the kid doesn't have skills...nor does it mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance.
Can we atleast all agree on that?
When my fighter does good I expect him to be praised and when he does bad I expect him to be questioned.What I don't like about alot of hatton fans is that they feel he can't be questioned when he looks bad. But at the end of the day i could care less about any boxer because none of them sit around and talk about us.
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
But aren't we talking about Collazo not Tszyu. That victory is not in question is it.I think all three of those guys are better than collazo.
I gotta disagree with you on one thing...Judah aint better than Collazo...atleast he sure as shat wasn't last night.
Look at it like this. Hatton meets his hype...he did it when he destroyed Kostya.
Judah has NEVER met his hype.
NEVER...so don't anyone say Corey fwockin Spinks.
Collazo was a more sound fighter all the way around based on any performance that Judah has had with any upper level opponents. He was focused & he got up from a knockdown to work out the end of the stretch...which I do think that he won.
Kostya & Mitchell are far superior fighters than both Collazo, IWO...but that was a while ago.
I think collazo may be better now but the question is did you think that before this fight. I knew he was ok. I picked him to win.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Where are u Big H? ;)
Oh I'm right here young un - dont worry ;)
I think he has taken the right route so far in talking the fights with Maussa and getiing 2 more belts, yes we all no the limitations of Maussa and as I've said I haven't seen Collazo yet so can't comment.
I aint biased about Ricky Hatton, I've always stated that I don't think he would PBF!!
When you look at what happened to Lacy, you have to think that Hatton is sensible in taking his time, the way MAB and JC Chavez did, at the end of the day he is a 3 time world champ (whatever anybody says) and his stock is pretty high right now! Better than than fighting PBF or Cotto ( his 2 main threats imo) before he was ready. Peronally I don't think he will ever be ready for PBF, but let's be honest who wiill??
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
I didn't make any direct comment about the Collazo performance, all I said was every fighter has a bad day at the office, he's had 40 good ones prior to that. Look at Holyfiled in the 1st Moorer fight - it was a bad day at the office and he then went on to beat Tyson and avenge Moorer. All I was saying is figters have bad days like anybody else and regardless of the Collazo fight I think Hatton has proved a lot already and I am sure he will bounce back from WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD was a lacklustre performance.
I will be downloading it later so I can see for myself
That would be best
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
Where can the fight be downloaded?
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Originally Posted by Weebels
Where can the fight be downloaded?
None of the downloads on here work for me - but check for yourself on the File sharing Board ;)
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
Just out of curiousity Manick...where does this arguement end?
I mean...your'e a fan of some fighter, correct?
I gotta say that you would defend your man to the end, right?
What's done is done...we may not all buy it...but just because the outcome & the performance was what Hatton promised...just because it wasn't what we expected...that doesn't mean that the kid doesn't have skills...nor does it mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance.
Can we atleast all agree on that?
When my fighter does good I expect him to be praised and when he does bad I expect him to be questioned.What I don't like about alot of hatton fans is that they feel he can't be questioned when he looks bad. But at the end of the day i could care less about any boxer because none of them sit around and talk about us.
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But aren't we talking about Collazo not Tszyu. That victory is not in question is it.I think all three of those guys are better than collazo.
I gotta disagree with you on one thing...Judah aint better than Collazo...atleast he sure as shat wasn't last night.
Look at it like this. Hatton meets his hype...he did it when he destroyed Kostya.
Judah has NEVER met his hype.
NEVER...so don't anyone say Corey fwockin Spinks.
Collazo was a more sound fighter all the way around based on any performance that Judah has had with any upper level opponents. He was focused & he got up from a knockdown to work out the end of the stretch...which I do think that he won.
Kostya & Mitchell are far superior fighters than both Collazo, IWO...but that was a while ago.
I think collazo may be better now but the question is did you think that before this fight. I knew he was ok. I picked him to win.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Where are u Big H? ;)
Oh I'm right here young un - dont worry ;)
I think he has taken the right route so far in talking the fights with Maussa and getiing 2 more belts, yes we all no the limitations of Maussa and as I've said I haven't seen Collazo yet so can't comment.
I aint biased about Ricky Hatton, I've always stated that I don't think he would PBF!!
When you look at what happened to Lacy, you have to think that Hatton is sensible in taking his time, the way MAB and JC Chavez did, at the end of the day he is a 3 time world champ (whatever anybody says) and his stock is pretty high right now! Better than than fighting PBF or Cotto ( his 2 main threats imo) before he was ready. Peronally I don't think he will ever be ready for PBF, but let's be honest who wiill??
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
I didn't make any direct comment about the Collazo performance, all I said was every fighter has a bad day at the office, he's had 40 good ones prior to that. Look at Holyfiled in the 1st Moorer fight - it was a bad day at the office and he then went on to beat Tyson and avenge Moorer. All I was saying is figters have bad days like anybody else and regardless of the Collazo fight I think Hatton has proved a lot already and I am sure he will bounce back from WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD was a lacklustre performance.
I will be downloading it later so I can see for myself
That would be best
Just can't grasp my original point can ya
I DID NOT COMMENT on the Collazo fight - I said regardless of that fight cut him some slack coz he is allowed 1 bad fight after 40 good ones - so whether I have seen it (Which I openly said I haven't) is not relevant now is it!!
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Weebels
Where can the fight be downloaded?
None of the downloads on here work for me - but check for yourself on the File sharing Board ;)
yes, i have the link to the precious download...
if anyonw wants it, i would gladly give it 8)
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Originally Posted by The_One77
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by Weebels
Where can the fight be downloaded?
None of the downloads on here work for me - but check for yourself on the File sharing Board ;)
yes, i have the link to the precious download...
if anyonw wants it, i would gladly give it 8)
Yes please fella :D
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
Just out of curiousity Manick...where does this arguement end?
I mean...your'e a fan of some fighter, correct?
I gotta say that you would defend your man to the end, right?
What's done is done...we may not all buy it...but just because the outcome & the performance was what Hatton promised...just because it wasn't what we expected...that doesn't mean that the kid doesn't have skills...nor does it mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance.
Can we atleast all agree on that?
When my fighter does good I expect him to be praised and when he does bad I expect him to be questioned.What I don't like about alot of hatton fans is that they feel he can't be questioned when he looks bad. But at the end of the day i could care less about any boxer because none of them sit around and talk about us.
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
But aren't we talking about Collazo not Tszyu. That victory is not in question is it.I think all three of those guys are better than collazo.
I gotta disagree with you on one thing...Judah aint better than Collazo...atleast he sure as shat wasn't last night.
Look at it like this. Hatton meets his hype...he did it when he destroyed Kostya.
Judah has NEVER met his hype.
NEVER...so don't anyone say Corey fwockin Spinks.
Collazo was a more sound fighter all the way around based on any performance that Judah has had with any upper level opponents. He was focused & he got up from a knockdown to work out the end of the stretch...which I do think that he won.
Kostya & Mitchell are far superior fighters than both Collazo, IWO...but that was a while ago.
I think collazo may be better now but the question is did you think that before this fight. I knew he was ok. I picked him to win.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
Where are u Big H? ;)
Oh I'm right here young un - dont worry ;)
I think he has taken the right route so far in talking the fights with Maussa and getiing 2 more belts, yes we all no the limitations of Maussa and as I've said I haven't seen Collazo yet so can't comment.
I aint biased about Ricky Hatton, I've always stated that I don't think he would PBF!!
When you look at what happened to Lacy, you have to think that Hatton is sensible in taking his time, the way MAB and JC Chavez did, at the end of the day he is a 3 time world champ (whatever anybody says) and his stock is pretty high right now! Better than than fighting PBF or Cotto ( his 2 main threats imo) before he was ready. Peronally I don't think he will ever be ready for PBF, but let's be honest who wiill??
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
I didn't make any direct comment about the Collazo performance, all I said was every fighter has a bad day at the office, he's had 40 good ones prior to that. Look at Holyfiled in the 1st Moorer fight - it was a bad day at the office and he then went on to beat Tyson and avenge Moorer. All I was saying is figters have bad days like anybody else and regardless of the Collazo fight I think Hatton has proved a lot already and I am sure he will bounce back from WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD was a lacklustre performance.
I will be downloading it later so I can see for myself
That would be best
Just can't grasp my original point can ya
I DID NOT COMMENT on the Collazo fight - I said regardless of that fight cut him some slack coz he is allowed 1 bad fight after 40 good ones - so whether I have seen it (Which I openly said I haven't) is not relevant now is it!!
You said from what you hear it sounds like he had a bad day. What were you commenting on? The fight. That being said its obvious you can't grasp my point because you can't even acknowlegde that you commented on a fight you didn't see. So we will have to agree to disagree.
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
Just out of curiousity Manick...where does this arguement end?
I mean...your'e a fan of some fighter, correct?
I gotta say that you would defend your man to the end, right?
What's done is done...we may not all buy it...but just because the outcome & the performance was what Hatton promised...just because it wasn't what we expected...that doesn't mean that the kid doesn't have skills...nor does it mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance.
Can we atleast all agree on that?
When my fighter does good I expect him to be praised and when he does bad I expect him to be questioned.What I don't like about alot of hatton fans is that they feel he can't be questioned when he looks bad. But at the end of the day i could care less about any boxer because none of them sit around and talk about us.
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
But aren't we talking about Collazo not Tszyu. That victory is not in question is it.I think all three of those guys are better than collazo.
I gotta disagree with you on one thing...Judah aint better than Collazo...atleast he sure as shat wasn't last night.
Look at it like this. Hatton meets his hype...he did it when he destroyed Kostya.
Judah has NEVER met his hype.
NEVER...so don't anyone say Corey fwockin Spinks.
Collazo was a more sound fighter all the way around based on any performance that Judah has had with any upper level opponents. He was focused & he got up from a knockdown to work out the end of the stretch...which I do think that he won.
Kostya & Mitchell are far superior fighters than both Collazo, IWO...but that was a while ago.
I think collazo may be better now but the question is did you think that before this fight. I knew he was ok. I picked him to win.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
Where are u Big H? ;)
Oh I'm right here young un - dont worry ;)
I think he has taken the right route so far in talking the fights with Maussa and getiing 2 more belts, yes we all no the limitations of Maussa and as I've said I haven't seen Collazo yet so can't comment.
I aint biased about Ricky Hatton, I've always stated that I don't think he would PBF!!
When you look at what happened to Lacy, you have to think that Hatton is sensible in taking his time, the way MAB and JC Chavez did, at the end of the day he is a 3 time world champ (whatever anybody says) and his stock is pretty high right now! Better than than fighting PBF or Cotto ( his 2 main threats imo) before he was ready. Peronally I don't think he will ever be ready for PBF, but let's be honest who wiill??
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
I didn't make any direct comment about the Collazo performance, all I said was every fighter has a bad day at the office, he's had 40 good ones prior to that. Look at Holyfiled in the 1st Moorer fight - it was a bad day at the office and he then went on to beat Tyson and avenge Moorer. All I was saying is figters have bad days like anybody else and regardless of the Collazo fight I think Hatton has proved a lot already and I am sure he will bounce back from WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD was a lacklustre performance.
I will be downloading it later so I can see for myself
That would be best
Just can't grasp my original point can ya
I DID NOT COMMENT on the Collazo fight - I said regardless of that fight cut him some slack coz he is allowed 1 bad fight after 40 good ones - so whether I have seen it (Which I openly said I haven't) is not relevant now is it!!
You said from what you hear it sounds like he had a bad day. What were you commenting on? The fight. That being said its obvious you can't grasp my point because you can't even acknowlegde that you commented on a fight you didn't see. So we will have to agree to disagree.
Whatever makes you happy sweetheart
Re: I'm not bashing Ricky Hatton but......
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
Just out of curiousity Manick...where does this arguement end?
I mean...your'e a fan of some fighter, correct?
I gotta say that you would defend your man to the end, right?
What's done is done...we may not all buy it...but just because the outcome & the performance was what Hatton promised...just because it wasn't what we expected...that doesn't mean that the kid doesn't have skills...nor does it mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance.
Can we atleast all agree on that?
When my fighter does good I expect him to be praised and when he does bad I expect him to be questioned.What I don't like about alot of hatton fans is that they feel he can't be questioned when he looks bad. But at the end of the day i could care less about any boxer because none of them sit around and talk about us.
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
But aren't we talking about Collazo not Tszyu. That victory is not in question is it.I think all three of those guys are better than collazo.
I gotta disagree with you on one thing...Judah aint better than Collazo...atleast he sure as shat wasn't last night.
Look at it like this. Hatton meets his hype...he did it when he destroyed Kostya.
Judah has NEVER met his hype.
NEVER...so don't anyone say Corey fwockin Spinks.
Collazo was a more sound fighter all the way around based on any performance that Judah has had with any upper level opponents. He was focused & he got up from a knockdown to work out the end of the stretch...which I do think that he won.
Kostya & Mitchell are far superior fighters than both Collazo, IWO...but that was a while ago.
I think collazo may be better now but the question is did you think that before this fight. I knew he was ok. I picked him to win.
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by BIG H
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Where are u Big H? ;)
Oh I'm right here young un - dont worry ;)
I think he has taken the right route so far in talking the fights with Maussa and getiing 2 more belts, yes we all no the limitations of Maussa and as I've said I haven't seen Collazo yet so can't comment.
I aint biased about Ricky Hatton, I've always stated that I don't think he would PBF!!
When you look at what happened to Lacy, you have to think that Hatton is sensible in taking his time, the way MAB and JC Chavez did, at the end of the day he is a 3 time world champ (whatever anybody says) and his stock is pretty high right now! Better than than fighting PBF or Cotto ( his 2 main threats imo) before he was ready. Peronally I don't think he will ever be ready for PBF, but let's be honest who wiill??
I :appl: for admitting hatton ain't ready but that don't change the facts that your bias for him. You making a positive comment about the mans performance without even seeing it already proves that.
I didn't make any direct comment about the Collazo performance, all I said was every fighter has a bad day at the office, he's had 40 good ones prior to that. Look at Holyfiled in the 1st Moorer fight - it was a bad day at the office and he then went on to beat Tyson and avenge Moorer. All I was saying is figters have bad days like anybody else and regardless of the Collazo fight I think Hatton has proved a lot already and I am sure he will bounce back from WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD was a lacklustre performance.
I will be downloading it later so I can see for myself
That would be best
Just can't grasp my original point can ya
I DID NOT COMMENT on the Collazo fight - I said regardless of that fight cut him some slack coz he is allowed 1 bad fight after 40 good ones - so whether I have seen it (Which I openly said I haven't) is not relevant now is it!!
You said from what you hear it sounds like he had a bad day. What were you commenting on? The fight. That being said its obvious you can't grasp my point because you can't even acknowlegde that you commented on a fight you didn't see. So we will have to agree to disagree.
Whatever makes you happy
sweetheart
First I was a youngn now i'm sweetheart. Come on I would appreciate it if u didn't call me anything but my name being that I have given you that same respect even if you haven't deserved it.I thought Mods had more class than that.
