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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
-I never tried to make a point about Joe not wanting to fight in the U.S. so learn to read.
Your right there, someone said that a post above yours, what can i say? a firday night, few to many drinks, eyes sight not quite what it should be;)
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
-You say 1.8 mil should be enough to fight Joe when he got about 3 mil to fight Howard eastman.Come on if you can get 3 mil for a guy like that shouldn't you get more for a fighter like Joe.
when i said 1.8mil i was talking in UK pounds, 1.8mil in UK pounds then was equal to $3mil. Also, the easterman fight took place around 4 years after warren tried to get hopkins to fight calzaghe in the us. During that time hopkins went on to pick up the WBA belt from William joppy, beat 'the golden boy' making an even bigger name for him self - but yet getting the same payday... Also during that time he fought people like; Carl Daniels and Morrade Hakkar (although i think Hakkar was a mandatory fight, I'm not certain though) something tells me hapkins didn't get $3mill each form those fights both taking place in Pa... seems not even a decent venue wanted to host either fight.
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
-You knock hop for beating smaller guys in Trinidad and Oscar. Heres a question;Do you think Marvin Hagler is great? He too made his name by fighting smaller fighters (duran,hearns,srl).At the end of the day those two fighters are better than anyone Joe has ever has or probably will face.
I never once 'knocked him' please show me one derogatory word i said about him? there is a subtle difference in discouraging an opinion and knocking one, all i did was point out beating great fighters at a weight they are far form being their best at is not a good enough reason to glorify someone.
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-I was just bringing up Roy to show the kinda comp hes been in with. If he only fought Roy and then retired he would still have retired fighting better opposition than Joe has ever fought.
And i was just pointing out he fought Jones 'coz he had pretty much no other choice. He talked about wanting to fight RJJ again after he beat Trinidad but again nothing came of it...
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-Bringing up robin Reid in this conversation was a joke right? Please tell me that was a joke?
Why? he was better than 90% of the fighters hopkins beat
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-I don't even like Lacy. I need to" respect him or shut up about him". What are you two dating or something? Are you defending his honor? Get a life.
'Coz its getting extremely tidies reading this constant crap over and over, commenting on it (last time i checked it was a forum to give opinions) - that means i don't have a life and i am dating him?
Its starting to get extremely pathetic the fact calzaghe and hopkins have very similar career history's. Both great champions for a long time (Jc still is ofc) neither fighter got the chance to beat a world beater natural to that weight, or in his prime to win or defend their tittles..
Yet, hopkins now coming to the end of his career is looked back upon as a legend, a hall of Former - a true boxing great...
Where as calzaghe is looked upon as a guy who only beat one well known guy, and then the guy was 'overrated' Jc is someone 'ducked' people and wouldn't fight outside of the UK...
Swap their nationalities and it would be Hopkins the one being condemned and calzaghe the one being hyped...
