Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time
I say Tyson. I think the guy was a good hw fighter, but by no means the ATG that many people feel.
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I am going to give Oscar De La Hoya a break today. Sure he had plenty of suspect victories but he lost a couple of suspect one's also (Mosley 2). But I have to give my nod to Riddick Bowe, specially after I just read the thread on how he could beat a prime Tyson (NOT). I guess his impressive victories over Holyfield made his career, but after Golata ripped him up I knew he was overated.
Tarver earned hiself a spot on that list ;D
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Jeff "left hook" Lacy
Hector Camancho
Vernon Forrest
Antonio Tarver
Virgil Hill
Micheal Moore
are all honorable mentions
in my Opinion
you shouldnt forget moorer made his reputation as a lt. heavy and was one of the best ever at 175 ,and so many people only rate hi as a heavyweight ..and he did beat many Big fighters ..and holyfeild
and jeff lacy is still basicly unbeatable except by Calzaghe ...he is what he is people see him and love hi for being a SKILLED slugger and he hasnt lost anyfans ...he wasnt so much over hyped ...because form what i saw i woulda BET MY LIFE he beat calzaghe ..seriously ..anyway i think Jeff is rated right ..he beat syd vanderppol who beat glen johnson and Reid and pemberton ...he earned his postion ....
Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time
Felix Trinidad
Hector Camacho
Ray Leonard
John Ruiz
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Felix Trinidad
Hector Camacho
Ray Leonard
John Ruiz
I could see camacho & ruiz..if i looked hard enough i could see SRL, but TITO...you must be kidding..i mean only held the WW belt for six years then won JMW belt, and a middleweight title belt...and was undefeated for eleven years...
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Felix Trinidad
Hector Camacho
Ray Leonard
John Ruiz
I could see camacho & ruiz..if i looked hard enough i could see SRL, but TITO...you must be kidding..i mean only held the WW belt for six years then won JMW belt, and a middleweight title belt...and was undefeated for eleven years...
I agree it's no way that Felix Trinidad is overated. 16 strait ww title defenses, he cleaned 154 out in three fights vs Vargas, Ndou, and Reid. Beat William Joppy for the MW championship, he beat three gold medal winners, he defeated a slew of undefeated fighters. He came up short against a great Bernard Hopkins even though he was way undersized and never made an excuse for being a smaller fighter (unlike ODH) only to comeback and destroy El Metador's career years later. HOF material, one of the greatest in our generation. If he would have stayed at 154 he would have been undefeated to this day.
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How could I forget Nasseem "Prince" Hamed.
dude...he had 15 straight title defenses....so not over hyped... Audley Harrison....now that's overrated...
Prince Nasseem was overrated he fought nothing but chumps but what happend when he fought an elite boxer (Barrera) he got toyed with schooled in other words.
Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time
great fighters lose too guys!
soetimes someone will just have someones number as far as fighting ..i wouldnt go so far as to say trinidad is overrated ...hes just not at 140 anymore and hes 33
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
Jeff "left hook" Lacy
Hector Camancho
Vernon Forrest
Antonio Tarver
Virgil Hill
Micheal Moore
are all honorable mentions
in my Opinion
you shouldnt forget moorer made his reputation as a lt. heavy and was one of the best ever at 175 ,and so many people only rate hi as a heavyweight ..and he did beat many Big fighters ..and holyfeild
and jeff lacy is still basicly unbeatable except by Calzaghe ...he is what he is people see him and love hi for being a SKILLED slugger and he hasnt lost anyfans ...he wasnt so much over hyped ...because form what i saw i woulda BET MY LIFE he beat calzaghe ..seriously ..anyway i think Jeff is rated right ..he beat syd vanderppol who beat glen johnson and Reid and pemberton ...he earned his postion ....
SKILLED? ??? Are we talking about Jeff Lacy from Florida?
Lacy beat an old Vanderpool, who in his next fight after the Lacy fight was knocked out for ten minutes by a guy from Colombia, I guess, who was KOed by feather-fisted Robert Stieglitz. Lacy could not even floor Syd
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Originally Posted by gbrandon
Jeff "left hook" Lacy
Hector Camancho
Vernon Forrest
Antonio Tarver
Virgil Hill
Micheal Moore
are all honorable mentions
you shouldnt forget moorer made his reputation as a lt. heavy and was one of the best ever at 175 ,and so many people only rate hi as a heavyweight ..and he did beat many Big fighters ..and holyfeild
and jeff lacy is still basicly unbeatable except by Calzaghe ...he is what he is people see him and love hi for being a SKILLED slugger and he hasnt lost anyfans ...he wasnt so much over hyped ...because form what i saw i woulda BET MY LIFE he beat calzaghe ..seriously ..anyway i think Jeff is rated right ..he beat syd vanderppol who beat glen johnson and Reid and pemberton ...he earned his postion ....
SKILLED? ??? Are we talking about Jeff Lacy from Florida?
Lacy beat an old Vanderpool, who in his next fight after the Lacy fight was knocked out for ten minutes by a guy from Colombia, I guess, who was KOed by feather-fisted Robert Stieglitz. Lacy could not even floor Syd
Sure Jeff Lacy is a terrific skilled fighter awesome power excellent hand speed. What happen is Joehurt Lacy early and Lacy was on Auto Pilot for the rest of the fight
Re: Who's the most overated fighter of all time
Lacy is not skilled, he pratically has no defense whatsoever and only used his power to beat opponents.
He was being outboxed by Scott Pemberton for heaven's sake
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Lacy may have been over rated but no way should he be in the all time category,he wasn't that over hyped was he?!?!
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Lacy may have been over rated but no way should he be in the all time category,he wasn't that over hyped was he?!?!
I guess your right. If you look above Lacy is on my list, it is to early though. I remeber what happen to David Reid and I guess I jumped the gun a little bit. Lacy looked like he was going to bring a dead division to life at 168. Usually fighters just past through that division on a short hiatus (same at cruiser) but it looked like Lacy would dominate for a while and then move on to fight Tarver for the belt at 175. Alot of people thought Lacy would dominate JC and KO him. Lacy did not lose a split decision, he did not get hit with a lucky punch, he was dominated for all twelve rounds. No even JC fans thought that was going to happen. He does not deserve to be on the all time list but he should be on the current one.
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EVANDER HOLYFIELD
Why?
he lost to a lot of weak competition..........im not saying he was a terrible fighter or anything, he just got beat a lot and i have heard people regard him as one of the best of all time
Your a dope for mentioning Evander!!!!!He was a great Warrior and fought the best...Man that was Idiotic...Get out of here with that shit..
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Lacy may have been over rated but no way should he be in the all time category,he wasn't that over hyped was he?!?!
   I guess your right. If you look above Lacy is on my list, it is to early though. I remeber what happen to David Reid and I guess I jumped the gun a little bit. Lacy looked like he was going to bring a dead division to life at 168. Usually fighters just past through that division on a short hiatus (same at cruiser) but it looked like Lacy would dominate for a while and then move on to fight Tarver for the belt at 175. Alot of people thought Lacy would dominate JC and KO him. Lacy did not lose a split decision, he did not get hit with a lucky punch, he was dominated for all twelve rounds. No even JC fans thought that was going to happen. He does not deserve to be on the all time list but he should be on the current one.
Way to early to be calling Lacy Overhyped after only 1 loss and dominitly winning most of his fights by KO...I agree he ran into a Buzz saw of a Joe Calzaghe, but if he sucks in his next couple of fights then I'll agree with the overhyped stuff
