Re: Tribute to Gerald McClellan
Not to mention Ali was a cheater,Bernard Hopkins convicted felon,Tyson convicted rapist, and other boxers who have checkered pasts..So should they have a wheel chair next to the G-man???
Re: Tribute to Gerald McClellan
After my initial post early on and not really knowing the stories behind Mclellans history i have given this some thought. The first point I feel is that as a fan of boxing we have been robbed of a potentially tremendous talent. The second point is that the morale arguement regarding his condition as being a justification for what he has done is one that many people will argue for and against this. Personally I would not wish this on anyone and I feel sorry for his kids being robbed of their father to a certain degree. Thats my opinion and I can't argue against someone elses opinion as they are entitiled to it. Some people feel so strongly about certain things and thats a good thing too.
Boxing offers many people a road out of a bad life and perhaps he could have turned his behaviour outside the ring around. When I read some of the stories about him they really horrified me and seeing what happened to the him in the ring was horrifying as well. Like I say as a fan of boxing he was a tremendous boxer. The whole thing though is a terrible story from start to finish.
A tragic story from so many angles no matter what your opinion is .
Re: Tribute to Gerald McClellan
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Not to mention Ali cheated on his WIFES,Bernard Hopkins convicted felon,Tyson convicted rapist, and other boxers who have checkered pasts..So should they have a wheel chair next to the G-man??? I dont think so
Re: Tribute to Gerald McClellan
sorry for duplicates F$#%ing computers
Re: Tribute to Gerald McClellan
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After my initial post early on and not really knowing the stories behind Mclellans history i have given this some thought. The first point I feel is that as a fan of boxing we have been robbed of a potentially tremendous talent. The second point is that the morale arguement regarding his condition as being a justification for what he has done is one that many people will argue for and against this. Personally I would not wish this on anyone and I feel sorry for his kids being robbed of their father to a certain degree. Thats my opinion and I can't argue against someone elses opinion as they are entitiled to it. Some people feel so strongly about certain things and thats a good thing too.
Boxing offers many people a road out of a bad life and perhaps he could have turned his behaviour outside the ring around. When I read some of the stories about him they really horrified me and seeing what happened to the him in the ring was horrifying as well. Like I say as a fan of boxing he was a tremendous boxer. The whole thing though is a terrible story from start to finish.
A tragic story from so many angles no matter what your opinion is .
very True ! CC
Re: Tribute to Gerald McClellan
I dont see it as a tragic story, I see it as an epic, a great day in the world when Gerald McLellan was taken and punished to the highest order.
And I dont feel for his kids, as they wont have a dad to bring them up to tie up dogs and set bulldogs onto them to rip to shreds.
The worl;d doesnt need people like that peice of shit, and his kids are better off without him.
The peice of shit that came out of my arse today is better than Gerald McLellan
And I dont know why his sister maons about Benn not going to see him, why would Benn want to visit such a prick like him, the stupid cabbage!
benn should be knighted! for the destruction he caused to McLellan and ridding the world of a cruel peice of cack....
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I dont see it as a tragic story, I see it as an epic, a great day in the world when Gerald McLellan was taken and punished to the highest order.
And I dont feel for his kids, as they wont have a dad to bring them up to tie up dogs and set bulldogs onto them to rip to shreds.
The worl;d doesnt need people like that peice of S***, and his kids are better off without him.
The peice of S*** that came out of my a*** today is better than Gerald McLellan
And I dont know why his sister maons about Benn not going to see him, why would Benn want to visit such a prick like him, the stupid cabbage!
benn should be knighted! for the destruction he caused to McLellan and ridding the world of a cruel peice of cack....
Killing animals might be cruel but we're all guilty of it, unless you live purely on cabbage and carrots and wear clothes made of hemp.
Even then if you use pesticides or make no effort to re-home the slugs and bugs you displace when you uproot their food supplies to feed your own selfish stomachs then you too are a murderer without compassion.
My point is that every culture and person on this earth has a different view of what is cruel and what is not. To judge a man purely on his actions that you have read about without having walked in his world, and see life through his eyes you cannot really judge.
McClellan could just as easily be a victim of a horrible culture into which he was born and brought up.
To condemn a man to death purely because you have read an article on him, written by somebody else, quoting what somebody else said about him is just foolish.
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...it's not the killing that's bad it's the fighting them for no real purpose other than betting.
Hell I'm no vegan or anything but I don't torture animals like that.
I don't care about McClellan like it or not it ain't changing
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...it's not the killing that's bad it's the fighting them for no real purpose other than betting.
Hell I'm no vegan or anything but I don't torture animals like that.
I don't care about McClellan like it or not it ain't changing
Yeah but whose to say that fashion, or enjoyable food are more acceptable reasons to kill animals?
At the end of the day EVERY single animal death in the Western World at least is a result of entertainment, the pleasure of a nice leather sofa, the latest trendy trainers, the tastiest burger, its all about entertainment.
Myself I would never want to watch two animals kill each other, but on the other hand I was perfectly happy for somebody else to kill a bunch of cows on my behalf so I could enjoy my nice leather Italian design sofa.
I was also perfectly happy for KFC to kill some animal (probably not a chicken :P) so I could enjoy my Zinger Tower Burger at the weekend.
We are all guilty, there is no one blameless.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
...it's not the killing that's bad it's the fighting them for no real purpose other than betting.
Hell I'm no vegan or anything but I don't torture animals like that.
I don't care about McClellan like it or not it ain't changing
Yeah but whose to say that fashion, or enjoyable food are more acceptable reasons to kill animals?
At the end of the day EVERY single animal death in the Western World at least is a result of entertainment, the pleasure of a nice leather sofa, the latest trendy trainers, the tastiest burger, its all about entertainment.
Myself I would never want to watch two animals kill each other, but on the other hand I was perfectly happy for somebody else to kill a bunch of cows on my behalf so I could enjoy my nice leather Italian design sofa.
I was also perfectly happy for KFC to kill some animal (probably not a chicken :P) so I could enjoy my Zinger Tower Burger at the weekend.
We are all guilty, there is no one blameless.
:coolclick: Awsome post brotha!!!! I couldnt have said it any better myself... people will spin it anyway they want regardless
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Lyle
...it's not the killing that's bad it's the fighting them for no real purpose other than betting.
Hell I'm no vegan or anything but I don't torture animals like that.
I don't care about McClellan like it or not it ain't changing
Yeah but whose to say that fashion, or enjoyable food are more acceptable reasons to kill animals?
At the end of the day EVERY single animal death in the Western World at least is a result of entertainment, the pleasure of a nice leather sofa, the latest trendy trainers, the tastiest burger, its all about entertainment.
Myself I would never want to watch two animals kill each other, but on the other hand I was perfectly happy for somebody else to kill a bunch of cows on my behalf so I could enjoy my nice leather Italian design sofa.
I was also perfectly happy for KFC to kill some animal (probably not a chicken :P) so I could enjoy my Zinger Tower Burger at the weekend.
We are all guilty, there is no one blameless.
:coolclick: Awsome post brotha!!!! I couldnt have said it any better myself... people will spin it anyway they want regardless
Cheers man, :coolclick: to you too
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Lyle
...it's not the killing that's bad it's the fighting them for no real purpose other than betting.
Hell I'm no vegan or anything but I don't torture animals like that.
I don't care about McClellan like it or not it ain't changing
Yeah but whose to say that fashion, or enjoyable food are more acceptable reasons to kill animals?
At the end of the day EVERY single animal death in the Western World at least is a result of entertainment, the pleasure of a nice leather sofa, the latest trendy trainers, the tastiest burger, its all about entertainment.
Myself I would never want to watch two animals kill each other, but on the other hand I was perfectly happy for somebody else to kill a bunch of cows on my behalf so I could enjoy my nice leather Italian design sofa.
I was also perfectly happy for KFC to kill some animal (probably not a chicken :P) so I could enjoy my Zinger Tower Burger at the weekend.
We are all guilty, there is no one blameless.
Yes because you USE the animal which is better than just killing them for no reason whatsoever
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Lyle
...it's not the killing that's bad it's the fighting them for no real purpose other than betting.
Hell I'm no vegan or anything but I don't torture animals like that.
I don't care about McClellan like it or not it ain't changing
Yeah but whose to say that fashion, or enjoyable food are more acceptable reasons to kill animals?
At the end of the day EVERY single animal death in the Western World at least is a result of entertainment, the pleasure of a nice leather sofa, the latest trendy trainers, the tastiest burger, its all about entertainment.
Myself I would never want to watch two animals kill each other, but on the other hand I was perfectly happy for somebody else to kill a bunch of cows on my behalf so I could enjoy my nice leather Italian design sofa.
I was also perfectly happy for KFC to kill some animal (probably not a chicken :P) so I could enjoy my Zinger Tower Burger at the weekend.
We are all guilty, there is no one blameless.
Yes because you USE the animal which is better than just killing them for no reason whatsoever
Ah ok, so I guess Jeffey Dahma should have got a lighter sentence because he ate his victims or that weird buffalo bill in silence of the lambs is ok because he made a nice skin suit of those he slaughtered?
I'm not even joking here.
I cannot understand the world (you are far from alone in your view Lyle) that justifies killing an animal as long as it benefits them in some way. So I guess you just have to park your behind on a nice leather sofa else your a** will get chafing will it? And you just NEED those nice trendy new Nike trainers else your feet will fall off?
Or you just HAVE to have bacon and eggs for breakfast because you are vegetable intolerant?
Justifying killing of an animal because you want to wear it on your feet or eat its liver is just as absurd as when I relate the same thing to humans.
Are Dahmer and Buffalo Bill more humane and responsible because they were killing for food or clothes?
I rest my case.
Re: Tribute to Gerald McClellan
No because they killed humans which are not yet a food source that is accepted in many cultures especially when they occured here in the US.
And Bilbo I appreciate that you're TRYING to make a point but you're falling well short of it.
Go have some tofu and cry yourself to sleep
