Re: fraud maywheater afraid?
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
"You want to see him fight Toney...but not everyone does. Toney pulls about as much weight as his last opponent did...very little." wacko3205
cc...wacko....i agree w/ your point that PBF is not a fraud. but i disagree w/ you on the amount of weight tony pulls. if your referring to $ and fans you seem not to recognize the huge amount of buzz this would create around the Latino community (especially w/ the Mexican American fans) this would be a huge fight IMO. ppl would want to see it and would pay to see it. i understand all your points on tony not deserving a shot at "the almighty" but IMO casual fans don't give S*** and in the end they are the ones behind the $. of course money is not everything PBF has to think about his legacy ::** . but if hes not going to fight tony, then who should he fight? who would be worthy of stepping into the ring w/ PBF?
1.tony is Mexican American = $/fans
2.tony is from Tijuana = $/fans
3.tony trains in Cali = $/fans
4.tony is calling out PBF = $/fans
5.tony beat F.Randell = $/fans (why? because Randell beat JCC and fans love that tony beat down on Randell)
You got be F****** kidding me? This is one of the worst posts of the year. It's filled with pure nonsense. Being Mexican American brings in money and fans when the
fighter is good. That's why Morales and Barerra matter. But Emmanuel Lucero and Hector Velazquez don't. The fact that he's from T.J and trains in Cal means nothing. No body cares what gym he trains in. I know. I live in Los Angeles. How is calling out Mayweather going to bring more money and fans? Junior Witter's been doing it. I doubt he's gain anything by it. Mayweather is P4P #1. Everybody is calling him out! As for beating Frankie Randall? That point alone change this post from bad to straight stupid. Chavez beat Randall in there rematch. To the Mexican people, he avenged that loss. I know, I'm Mexican American. Not only that, by the time Margarito beat Randall. Randall had already loss to Oba Carr and Michele Piccirillo. Margarito beat a shot Frankie Randall. His win means nothing. Nothing you can say, can make Margarito a worthy opponent. Why? Cuz he hasn't done anthing to be called a worthy opponent! Mayweather might as well fight Kirino Garcia. He's Mexican. He's from Juarez and has trained in Los Angeles before. And he beat Frankie Randall, too. As well as Simon Brown and Meldrick Taylor. Plus, he was robbed against David Reid. Based on the points you made, Garcia is more worthy than Margarito. Fukk Floyd Mayweather-Antonio Margarito. It should be Floyd Mayweather-Kirino Garcia.
fantastic job of bringing up so many valid points
i would cc you a million times, i would...........but since i cant i'll just give you one big one
(the margarito fans wont even acknowledge the points you brought up, they will just keep posting nonsense and ignoring the truth...........as they do when anybody makes a case against him)
All people got to do, is look at the facts. It's that simple. Facts don't lie. You can't make Margarito good or worth. Why? Cuz there ain't no
FACTS to back it up! Cc back.
exactly.......
i think margarito would be better served fighting ANY of these guys
quintana
williams
judah
mitchell
santos
if he beats ANY of them, then maybe there will be some credibility to this discussion.
but instead he beats KERMIT CINTRON, and now hes demanding a shot with the #1 p4p fighter on the planet (and the payday that goes with it)
and i suppose floyd has been SOOOOOO SCARED of margarito that he decided to take the easy way out and fight......................OSCAR DELAHOYA
its ridiculous
btw........these are all guys who said they would fight margarito
excellent points from both of you... ;)
but I have to ask... are you guys falling in love? :-*
you get a cc for the recognition
but the only person i will ever be in love with is my daughter (shes one :D) her mom too, i guess
Re: fraud maywheater afraid?
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
"You want to see him fight Toney...but not everyone does. Toney pulls about as much weight as his last opponent did...very little." wacko3205
cc...wacko....i agree w/ your point that PBF is not a fraud. but i disagree w/ you on the amount of weight tony pulls. if your referring to $ and fans you seem not to recognize the huge amount of buzz this would create around the Latino community (especially w/ the Mexican American fans) this would be a huge fight IMO. ppl would want to see it and would pay to see it. i understand all your points on tony not deserving a shot at "the almighty" but IMO casual fans don't give S*** and in the end they are the ones behind the $. of course money is not everything PBF has to think about his legacy ::** . but if hes not going to fight tony, then who should he fight? who would be worthy of stepping into the ring w/ PBF?
1.tony is Mexican American = $/fans
2.tony is from Tijuana = $/fans
3.tony trains in Cali = $/fans
4.tony is calling out PBF = $/fans
5.tony beat F.Randell = $/fans (why? because Randell beat JCC and fans love that tony beat down on Randell)
You got be F****** kidding me? This is one of the worst posts of the year. It's filled with pure nonsense. Being Mexican American brings in money and fans when the
fighter is good. That's why Morales and Barerra matter. But Emmanuel Lucero and Hector Velazquez don't. The fact that he's from T.J and trains in Cal means nothing. No body cares what gym he trains in. I know. I live in Los Angeles. How is calling out Mayweather going to bring more money and fans? Junior Witter's been doing it. I doubt he's gain anything by it. Mayweather is P4P #1. Everybody is calling him out! As for beating Frankie Randall? That point alone change this post from bad to straight stupid. Chavez beat Randall in there rematch. To the Mexican people, he avenged that loss. I know, I'm Mexican American. Not only that, by the time Margarito beat Randall. Randall had already loss to Oba Carr and Michele Piccirillo. Margarito beat a shot Frankie Randall. His win means nothing. Nothing you can say, can make Margarito a worthy opponent. Why? Cuz he hasn't done anthing to be called a worthy opponent! Mayweather might as well fight Kirino Garcia. He's Mexican. He's from Juarez and has trained in Los Angeles before. And he beat Frankie Randall, too. As well as Simon Brown and Meldrick Taylor. Plus, he was robbed against David Reid. Based on the points you made, Garcia is more worthy than Margarito. Fukk Floyd Mayweather-Antonio Margarito. It should be Floyd Mayweather-Kirino Garcia.
fantastic job of bringing up so many valid points
i would cc you a million times, i would...........but since i cant i'll just give you one big one
(the margarito fans wont even acknowledge the points you brought up, they will just keep posting nonsense and ignoring the truth...........as they do when anybody makes a case against him)
All people got to do, is look at the facts. It's that simple. Facts don't lie. You can't make Margarito good or worth. Why? Cuz there ain't no
FACTS to back it up! Cc back.
exactly.......
i think margarito would be better served fighting ANY of these guys
quintana
williams
judah
mitchell
santos
if he beats ANY of them, then maybe there will be some credibility to this discussion.
but instead he beats KERMIT CINTRON, and now hes demanding a shot with the #1 p4p fighter on the planet (and the payday that goes with it)
and i suppose floyd has been SOOOOOO SCARED of margarito that he decided to take the easy way out and fight......................OSCAR DELAHOYA
its ridiculous
btw........these are all guys who said they would fight margarito
excellent points from both of you... ;)
but I have to ask... are you guys falling in love? :-*
you get a cc for the recognition
but the only person i will ever be in love with is my daughter (shes one :D) her mom too, i guess
Yeah, I know what you mean. I got 3 baby mommas. I hate the first one, dislike the second one and just can't stand the third one.
Re: fraud maywheater afraid?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Hairdoo
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
"You want to see him fight Toney...but not everyone does. Toney pulls about as much weight as his last opponent did...very little." wacko3205
cc...wacko....i agree w/ your point that PBF is not a fraud. but i disagree w/ you on the amount of weight tony pulls. if your referring to $ and fans you seem not to recognize the huge amount of buzz this would create around the Latino community (especially w/ the Mexican American fans) this would be a huge fight IMO. ppl would want to see it and would pay to see it. i understand all your points on tony not deserving a shot at "the almighty" but IMO casual fans don't give S*** and in the end they are the ones behind the $. of course money is not everything PBF has to think about his legacy ::** . but if hes not going to fight tony, then who should he fight? who would be worthy of stepping into the ring w/ PBF?
1.tony is Mexican American = $/fans
2.tony is from Tijuana = $/fans
3.tony trains in Cali = $/fans
4.tony is calling out PBF = $/fans
5.tony beat F.Randell = $/fans (why? because Randell beat JCC and fans love that tony beat down on Randell)
You got be F****** kidding me? This is one of the worst posts of the year. It's filled with pure nonsense. Being Mexican American brings in money and fans when the
fighter is good. That's why Morales and Barerra matter. But Emmanuel Lucero and Hector Velazquez don't. The fact that he's from T.J and trains in Cal means nothing. No body cares what gym he trains in. I know. I live in Los Angeles. How is calling out Mayweather going to bring more money and fans? Junior Witter's been doing it. I doubt he's gain anything by it. Mayweather is P4P #1. Everybody is calling him out! As for beating Frankie Randall? That point alone change this post from bad to straight stupid. Chavez beat Randall in there rematch. To the Mexican people, he avenged that loss. I know, I'm Mexican American. Not only that, by the time Margarito beat Randall. Randall had already loss to Oba Carr and Michele Piccirillo. Margarito beat a shot Frankie Randall. His win means nothing. Nothing you can say, can make Margarito a worthy opponent. Why? Cuz he hasn't done anthing to be called a worthy opponent! Mayweather might as well fight Kirino Garcia. He's Mexican. He's from Juarez and has trained in Los Angeles before. And he beat Frankie Randall, too. As well as Simon Brown and Meldrick Taylor. Plus, he was robbed against David Reid. Based on the points you made, Garcia is more worthy than Margarito. Fukk Floyd Mayweather-Antonio Margarito. It should be Floyd Mayweather-Kirino Garcia.
fantastic job of bringing up so many valid points
i would cc you a million times, i would...........but since i cant i'll just give you one big one
(the margarito fans wont even acknowledge the points you brought up, they will just keep posting nonsense and ignoring the truth...........as they do when anybody makes a case against him)
All people got to do, is look at the facts. It's that simple. Facts don't lie. You can't make Margarito good or worth. Why? Cuz there ain't no
FACTS to back it up! Cc back.
exactly.......
i think margarito would be better served fighting ANY of these guys
quintana
williams
judah
mitchell
santos
if he beats ANY of them, then maybe there will be some credibility to this discussion.
but instead he beats KERMIT CINTRON, and now hes demanding a shot with the #1 p4p fighter on the planet (and the payday that goes with it)
and i suppose floyd has been SOOOOOO SCARED of margarito that he decided to take the easy way out and fight......................OSCAR DELAHOYA
its ridiculous
btw........these are all guys who said they would fight margarito
excellent points from both of you... ;)
but I have to ask... are you guys falling in love? :-*
you get a cc for the recognition
but the only person i will ever be in love with is my daughter (shes one :D) her mom too, i guess
Yeah, I know what you mean. I got 3 baby mommas. I hate the first one, dislike the second one and just can't stand the third one.
DAMN!...... you get TONS of respect from me, bro
i got one to deal with, and she lives in anaheim...........they come out for 2 weeks and stay with me about every 6 weeks and thats almost too much to handle
but 3?
wow! i cant even imagine :D
Re: fraud maywheater afraid?
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Originally Posted by sweet science
Outstanding clip. I wonder why I never see any clips of Margarito embarrassing big name fighters?
Re: fraud maywheater afraid?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
"You want to see him fight Toney...but not everyone does. Toney pulls about as much weight as his last opponent did...very little." wacko3205
cc...wacko....i agree w/ your point that PBF is not a fraud. but i disagree w/ you on the amount of weight tony pulls. if your referring to $ and fans you seem not to recognize the huge amount of buzz this would create around the Latino community (especially w/ the Mexican American fans) this would be a huge fight IMO. ppl would want to see it and would pay to see it. i understand all your points on tony not deserving a shot at "the almighty" but IMO casual fans don't give S*** and in the end they are the ones behind the $. of course money is not everything PBF has to think about his legacy ::** . but if hes not going to fight tony, then who should he fight? who would be worthy of stepping into the ring w/ PBF?
1.tony is Mexican American = $/fans
2.tony is from Tijuana = $/fans
3.tony trains in Cali = $/fans
4.tony is calling out PBF = $/fans
5.tony beat F.Randell = $/fans (why? because Randell beat JCC and fans love that tony beat down on Randell)
You got be F****** kidding me? This is one of the worst posts of the year. It's filled with pure nonsense. Being Mexican American brings in money and fans when the
fighter is good. That's why Morales and Barerra matter. But Emmanuel Lucero and Hector Velazquez don't. The fact that he's from T.J and trains in Cal means nothing. No body cares what gym he trains in. I know. I live in Los Angeles. How is calling out Mayweather going to bring more money and fans? Junior Witter's been doing it. I doubt he's gain anything by it. Mayweather is P4P #1. Everybody is calling him out! As for beating Frankie Randall? That point alone change this post from bad to straight stupid. Chavez beat Randall in there rematch. To the Mexican people, he avenged that loss. I know, I'm Mexican American. Not only that, by the time Margarito beat Randall. Randall had already loss to Oba Carr and Michele Piccirillo. Margarito beat a shot Frankie Randall. His win means nothing. Nothing you can say, can make Margarito a worthy opponent. Why? Cuz he hasn't done anthing to be called a worthy opponent! Mayweather might as well fight Kirino Garcia. He's Mexican. He's from Juarez and has trained in Los Angeles before. And he beat Frankie Randall, too. As well as Simon Brown and Meldrick Taylor. Plus, he was robbed against David Reid. Based on the points you made, Garcia is more worthy than Margarito. Fukk Floyd Mayweather-Antonio Margarito. It should be Floyd Mayweather-Kirino Garcia.
no I'm not fucking kidding......you have to be joking in believing that a fight between Tony vs PBF wont bring out Mexican fans to back tony. and to Mexicans, Tony's beating of Randell will matter, because thats the way it will be spun on Mexican TV. Tony being from tj does bring him play, and he does and will get alot of attention along the border .him calling out PBF along w/ the perception that pbf is ducking tony will absolutely bring money and fans. (if it has not mattered why is there so much talk about it) nobody would have given a shit if it were not for this perception. tony deserving a shot or not has nothing to do with it at this point. PBF has be labled a fraud (wrongfully so IMO) and has been seen as ducking tony. so until PBF fights tony he will live w/ this stigma.
Re: fraud maywheater afraid?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
"You want to see him fight Toney...but not everyone does. Toney pulls about as much weight as his last opponent did...very little." wacko3205
cc...wacko....i agree w/ your point that PBF is not a fraud. but i disagree w/ you on the amount of weight tony pulls. if your referring to $ and fans you seem not to recognize the huge amount of buzz this would create around the Latino community (especially w/ the Mexican American fans) this would be a huge fight IMO. ppl would want to see it and would pay to see it. i understand all your points on tony not deserving a shot at "the almighty" but IMO casual fans don't give S*** and in the end they are the ones behind the $. of course money is not everything PBF has to think about his legacy ::** . but if hes not going to fight tony, then who should he fight? who would be worthy of stepping into the ring w/ PBF?
1.tony is Mexican American = $/fans
2.tony is from Tijuana = $/fans
3.tony trains in Cali = $/fans
4.tony is calling out PBF = $/fans
5.tony beat F.Randell = $/fans (why? because Randell beat JCC and fans love that tony beat down on Randell)
You got be F****** kidding me? This is one of the worst posts of the year. It's filled with pure nonsense. Being Mexican American brings in money and fans when the
fighter is good. That's why Morales and Barerra matter. But Emmanuel Lucero and Hector Velazquez don't. The fact that he's from T.J and trains in Cal means nothing. No body cares what gym he trains in. I know. I live in Los Angeles. How is calling out Mayweather going to bring more money and fans? Junior Witter's been doing it. I doubt he's gain anything by it. Mayweather is P4P #1. Everybody is calling him out! As for beating Frankie Randall? That point alone change this post from bad to straight stupid. Chavez beat Randall in there rematch. To the Mexican people, he avenged that loss. I know, I'm Mexican American. Not only that, by the time Margarito beat Randall. Randall had already loss to Oba Carr and Michele Piccirillo. Margarito beat a shot Frankie Randall. His win means nothing. Nothing you can say, can make Margarito a worthy opponent. Why? Cuz he hasn't done anthing to be called a worthy opponent! Mayweather might as well fight Kirino Garcia. He's Mexican. He's from Juarez and has trained in Los Angeles before. And he beat Frankie Randall, too. As well as Simon Brown and Meldrick Taylor. Plus, he was robbed against David Reid. Based on the points you made, Garcia is more worthy than Margarito. Fukk Floyd Mayweather-Antonio Margarito. It should be Floyd Mayweather-Kirino Garcia.
oh and :fyou: your opinions are no more valid then mine.......there all just opinions.
and margarito will knock PBF the fuck out.
Re: fraud maywheater afraid?
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by rsan-chez
"You want to see him fight Toney...but not everyone does. Toney pulls about as much weight as his last opponent did...very little." wacko3205
cc...wacko....i agree w/ your point that PBF is not a fraud. but i disagree w/ you on the amount of weight tony pulls. if your referring to $ and fans you seem not to recognize the huge amount of buzz this would create around the Latino community (especially w/ the Mexican American fans) this would be a huge fight IMO. ppl would want to see it and would pay to see it. i understand all your points on tony not deserving a shot at "the almighty" but IMO casual fans don't give S*** and in the end they are the ones behind the $. of course money is not everything PBF has to think about his legacy ::** . but if hes not going to fight tony, then who should he fight? who would be worthy of stepping into the ring w/ PBF?
1.tony is Mexican American = $/fans
2.tony is from Tijuana = $/fans
3.tony trains in Cali = $/fans
4.tony is calling out PBF = $/fans
5.tony beat F.Randell = $/fans (why? because Randell beat JCC and fans love that tony beat down on Randell)
You got be F****** kidding me? This is one of the worst posts of the year. It's filled with pure nonsense. Being Mexican American brings in money and fans when the
fighter is good. That's why Morales and Barerra matter. But Emmanuel Lucero and Hector Velazquez don't. The fact that he's from T.J and trains in Cal means nothing. No body cares what gym he trains in. I know. I live in Los Angeles. How is calling out Mayweather going to bring more money and fans? Junior Witter's been doing it. I doubt he's gain anything by it. Mayweather is P4P #1. Everybody is calling him out! As for beating Frankie Randall? That point alone change this post from bad to straight stupid. Chavez beat Randall in there rematch. To the Mexican people, he avenged that loss. I know, I'm Mexican American. Not only that, by the time Margarito beat Randall. Randall had already loss to Oba Carr and Michele Piccirillo. Margarito beat a shot Frankie Randall. His win means nothing. Nothing you can say, can make Margarito a worthy opponent. Why? Cuz he hasn't done anthing to be called a worthy opponent! Mayweather might as well fight Kirino Garcia. He's Mexican. He's from Juarez and has trained in Los Angeles before. And he beat Frankie Randall, too. As well as Simon Brown and Meldrick Taylor. Plus, he was robbed against David Reid. Based on the points you made, Garcia is more worthy than Margarito. Fukk Floyd Mayweather-Antonio Margarito. It should be Floyd Mayweather-Kirino Garcia.
no I'm not fucking kidding......you have to be joking in believing that a fight between Tony vs PBF wont bring out Mexican fans to back tony. and to Mexicans, Tony's beating of Randell will matter, because thats the way it will be spun on Mexican TV. Tony being from tj does bring him play, and he does and will get alot of attention along the border .him calling out PBF along w/ the perception that pbf is ducking tony will absolutely bring money and fans. (if it has not mattered why is there so much talk about it) nobody would have given a shit if it were not for this perception. tony deserving a shot or not has nothing to do with it at this point. PBF has be labled a fraud (wrongfully so IMO) and has been seen as ducking tony. so until PBF fights tony he will live w/ this stigma.
So no Floyd Mayweather-Kirino Garcia. Damn.
