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is the Church of England really THAT much different than the Catholic religion? I mean everyone knows why it was created, a little guy named Henry VIII and his problems with making an heir.
And yeah every nation that was Catholic was "ruled" by the Pope...if you don't agree look it up. The Inquisition, the arrests and torture of the Templar Knights...those happened in Spain, England, France, Italy, and hell there are more places where The Pope has used his influence....Germany perhaps (1940's)
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Yeah the Church of England whilst vehimently opposing the Vatican they still held similar beliefs...divorce was the main issue and after that it was more cultural differences bewteen the Irish and the English that lead to the continued dislike of the Vatican.
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Ok but you missed quote me "You say that white Americans have more in common with Black Americans than they do Eastern Europeans, THATS EXACTLY MY POINT!!!"
I did not say that White American are more genetically similar to Afroamericans than they are to Eurasian whites. In layman's terms i said that many Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa. This mostly has to do with the great occurance of interracial breeding here in the U.S. and the percentages of blacks with Caucasian blood continue to climb as will Caucasions with African blood.
did you say "Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa."
I need to get high before I read any further ! LMFAO. ;D
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Man Lyle... they need to revise the way they teach European History to you... saying that half of you don't even know about the Korean War... :P
You'll learn... ;)
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The only thing I know that is a fact is that Toney doesn not jog. It hasnt been part of his workout for years. He does spar a lot though so yes, he does train just not conventionally.
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is the Church of England really THAT much different than the Catholic religion? I mean everyone knows why it was created, a little guy named Henry VIII and his problems with making an heir.
And yeah every nation that was Catholic was "ruled" by the Pope...if you don't agree look it up. The Inquisition, the arrests and torture of the Templar Knights...those happened in Spain, England, France, Italy, and hell there are more places where The Pope has used his influence....Germany perhaps (1940's)
Ok a brief history lesson to you Lyle.
Yes Henry 8th was indeed an Orthadox Catholic who simply wanted to marry Ann Bolyen. However seeing as he was already married to Catherine of Aragon and that her cousin was Emporer of Rome and had the Pope under house arrest he couldn't get a divorce and so proceeded to set up his own church.
However at the same time there was a huge schism occuring in the church throughout Europe as Protestants led by Martin Luther and later John Calvin condemned the Catholic church as being a blashemy against God and the work of the Devil.
In England and Scotland Protestantism spread like wildfire and became the crucial issue for the Puritans a century or so after Henry. They killed Charles the Catholic king and installed Oliver Cromwell as protectorate.
When he died and Charles II took the throne he promised to uphold the Protestant faith, although his brother James was a staunch and open Catholic. As Charles died heirless, fearing the worst a group of noble rebels contacted William of Orange, the Dutch Steinmaster and asked him to come and conquer England to save us from Catholic tryanny.
Catholicism and Popery was seen as attacks on freedom and a form of heritical despotism. At this time Englands great enemy was the Catholic French tyrant Loius 14th.
Catholicism was outlawed in Britain and is now pretty much extinct in England. It remains popular in Ireland of course, who often conspired with the French against the English.
But to say that England is Catholic is to be approximately 400 years out of date. No we are not Catholics, we have nothing to do with the Pope.
The high Anglican church does bear many similarites to the Catholic church but I believe only about 0.00001% of the British population are High Anglicans so irrelevent really.
The main religion is the UK today, is as in America, Hedonism. :soapbox:
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Ok but you missed quote me "You say that white Americans have more in common with Black Americans than they do Eastern Europeans, THATS EXACTLY MY POINT!!!"
I did not say that White American are more genetically similar to Afroamericans than they are to Eurasian whites. In layman's terms i said that many Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa. This mostly has to do with the great occurance of interracial breeding here in the U.S. and the percentages of blacks with Caucasian blood continue to climb as will Caucasions with African blood.
did you say "Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa."
I need to get high before I read any further ! LMFAO. ;D
no,Bilbo miss quoted me and I should have been more clear in my last post but its not the case for the majority of Afroamericans but many are.
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...So the COE and Catholics bare SOME similarities...see told you!!!
Yes fewer people go to church in Europe...I noticed as most of yall's churches are historical sites with 50 billion Japanese tourists in there
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how do you know he doesn't swing both ways?
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he may like the way you're put together lyle
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by maracho
Ok but you missed quote me "You say that white Americans have more in common with Black Americans than they do Eastern Europeans, THATS EXACTLY MY POINT!!!"
I did not say that White American are more genetically similar to Afroamericans than they are to Eurasian whites. In layman's terms i said that many Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa. This mostly has to do with the great occurance of interracial breeding here in the U.S. and the percentages of blacks with Caucasian blood continue to climb as will Caucasions with African blood.
did you say "Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa."
I need to get high before I read any further ! LMFAO. ;D
no,Bilbo miss quoted me and I should have been more clear in my last post but its not the case for the majority of Afroamericans but many are.
I don't get why you guys are even bringing genetics into it? ???
I'm not arguing for one race over another, or for racial similarites or whatever. All I am saying is the the American & British search for a great white hope goes on! What is there that is possibly hard to misunderstand here.
As I said before just because white Americans landed on the moon it doesn't mean Russians have landed on the moon because those white men were American not Russian.
So just because there are 4 Russian white heavyweight champs does not mean that the American and British search for a great white hope is over.
The champions are fuckingg Russian for Gawds sake!
Please no more anthropology, human genetics or micro biology, none of this has any relevance here at all, just stating the obvious fact that a big bear wrestling, Russian commie is in a British or American champion.
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by maracho
Ok but you missed quote me "You say that white Americans have more in common with Black Americans than they do Eastern Europeans, THATS EXACTLY MY POINT!!!"
I did not say that White American are more genetically similar to Afroamericans than they are to Eurasian whites. In layman's terms i said that many Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa. This mostly has to do with the great occurance of interracial breeding here in the U.S. and the percentages of blacks with Caucasian blood continue to climb as will Caucasions with African blood.
did you say "Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa."
I need to get high before I read any further ! LMFAO. ;D
no,Bilbo miss quoted me and I should have been more clear in my last post but its not the case for the majority of Afroamericans but many are.
I don't get why you guys are even bringing genetics into it? ???
I'm not arguing for one race over another, or for racial similarites or whatever. All I am saying is the the American & British search for a great white hope goes on! What is there that is possibly hard to misunderstand here.
As I said before just because white Americans landed on the moon it doesn't mean Russians have landed on the moon because those white men were American not Russian.
So just because there are 4 Russian white heavyweight champs does not mean that the American and British search for a great white hope is over.
The champions are fuckingg Russian for Gawds sake!
Please no more anthropology, human genetics or micro biology, none of this has any relevance here at all, just stating the obvious fact that a big bear wrestling, Russian commie is in a British or American champion.
you said " just because there are 4 Russian white heavyweight champs does not mean that the American and British search for a great white hope is over."
I really don't believe there is such a search, but if there were Oleg would be it.. He is an American Citizen, and he is Anglo, living in the U.S. It don’t get more cut n dry then that . all that build up about "America's last line of defense" is shameful and racist in my opinion. embarrass me to be honest. The promoters for that Rahman -vs. Maskive fight should be ashamed with all that B.S. yelling out racial slurs to Maskive during the weigh in , and all that.. Horrible !
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by maracho
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by maracho
Ok but you missed quote me "You say that white Americans have more in common with Black Americans than they do Eastern Europeans, THATS EXACTLY MY POINT!!!"
I did not say that White American are more genetically similar to Afroamericans than they are to Eurasian whites. In layman's terms i said that many Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa. This mostly has to do with the great occurance of interracial breeding here in the U.S. and the percentages of blacks with Caucasian blood continue to climb as will Caucasions with African blood.
did you say "Afroamericans are more genetically similar to whites than they are to each other and vice versa."
I need to get high before I read any further ! LMFAO. ;D
no,Bilbo miss quoted me and I should have been more clear in my last post but its not the case for the majority of Afroamericans but many are.
I don't get why you guys are even bringing genetics into it? ???
I'm not arguing for one race over another, or for racial similarites or whatever. All I am saying is the the American & British search for a great white hope goes on! What is there that is possibly hard to misunderstand here.
As I said before just because white Americans landed on the moon it doesn't mean Russians have landed on the moon because those white men were American not Russian.
So just because there are 4 Russian white heavyweight champs does not mean that the American and British search for a great white hope is over.
The champions are fuckingg Russian for Gawds sake!
Please no more anthropology, human genetics or micro biology, none of this has any relevance here at all, just stating the obvious fact that a big bear wrestling, Russian commie is in a British or American champion.
you said " just because there are 4 Russian white heavyweight champs does not mean that the American and British search for a great white hope is over."
I really don't believe there is such a search, but if there were Oleg would be it.. He is an American Citizen, and he is Anglo, living in the U.S. It don’t get more cut n dry then that . all that build up about "America's last line of defense" is shameful and racist in my opinion. embarrass me to be honest. The promoters for that Rahman -vs. Maskive fight should be ashamed with all that B.S. yelling out racial slurs to Maskive during the weigh in , and all that.. Horrible !
I don't think it's racist in the slightest, it's just good old fashioned Patriotism! I know that you Americans play most sports on your own so don't really get into multi-country competitions but every other country proudly supports their team at the World Cup, (soccer) and I'm sure even you support your local side against other teams in the NFC/AFC whatever they call them.
It's the same in every sport. I'll be cheering on a Brit to beat any Russian, Yank, German (especially German), French or whoever.
Patriotism does not equal racism.
Personally the politically correct brigade piss me off far more than any racists.
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In my humble opinion cheering for someone blindly because they're from the same region as you is worse than racism, it's sheeplism. http://www.sheeple.net ;D
