Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by Lyle
You can't ever say Joe has ducked anyone :beat:
This is the bullshit that I can't stand from fighters...they say they are the best and yet SELDOM challenege themseleves to achieve more. Joe is going to retire soon and we'll never say he handled anyone and everyone....he beat an OLD Chris Eubank and a YOUNG Jeff Lacy he never fought anyone in their prime and never beat anyone near their prime!
It ain't like the fights are not there to be made...Green, Kessler, Johnson, Tarver, Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr., Jermain Taylor, Chad Dawson....Clinton Woods. Joe has all the choices in the world and he choses this f*****...it's a damn shame
Why won't he fight in America???.....Maybe he saw hHattons fight against Collazo and Realized it's a different game all together here
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by Britkid
I am almost certainly in a minority of one, but I would like to see Calzaghe have this one last fight and retire.
A dodgy hand, bad back and personal problems...
Calzaghe needs to retire before he loses to someone who should not be able to beat him.
I know his hand is bad but a bad back?
And personal problems ???
What personal problems does he have now that stop him from fighting effectively.
Kassim Ouma has personal problems, Calzaghe has a life that most of us would love to experience
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Britkid
I am almost certainly in a minority of one, but I would like to see Calzaghe have this one last fight and retire.
A dodgy hand, bad back and personal problems...
Calzaghe needs to retire before he loses to someone who should not be able to beat him.
I know his hand is bad but a bad back?
And personal problems ???
What personal problems does he have now that stop him from fighting effectively.
Kassim Ouma has personal problems, Calzaghe has a life that most of us would love to experience
Calzaghe has had pull out of fights because of his back...
His hand can 'go' at any time
He is going though marital trouble
He is 34 years old... It is time to quit on top IMO. ;)
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by SEB
you're by far too pesimist my friend O0
I just like it when heroes in boxing retire one fight too early, rather than too late... Unfortunately that happens rarely :(
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by Britkid
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Britkid
I am almost certainly in a minority of one, but I would like to see Calzaghe have this one last fight and retire.
A dodgy hand, bad back and personal problems...
Calzaghe needs to retire before he loses to someone who should not be able to beat him.
I know his hand is bad but a bad back?
And personal problems ???
What personal problems does he have now that stop him from fighting effectively.
Kassim Ouma has personal problems, Calzaghe has a life that most of us would love to experience
Calzaghe has had pull out of fights because of his back...
His hand can 'go' at any time
He is going though marital trouble
He is 34 years old... It is time to quit on top IMO. ;)
I had a bad back once, I got over it.
His divorce is over, he's shacked up with a fucking hottie now, anyways why does that stop him boxing? I don't imagine he's the type to cry into a beer glass.
His hands are fucked I agree, but then Cory Spinks' hands are almost useless and yet he still fights ok. :P
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by Britkid
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Originally Posted by SEB
you're by far too pesimist my friend O0
I just like it when heroes in boxing retire one fight too early, rather than too late... Unfortunately that happens rarely :(
Agreed!!!!!!! get out while you are intact and still have something left..No shame in it....Joe has had a good career....He will be a future HOF fighter due to his longevity at 168 at solid grasp of the WBO belt for so long
he has money why stick around
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Britkid
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Originally Posted by bilbo
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Originally Posted by Britkid
I am almost certainly in a minority of one, but I would like to see Calzaghe have this one last fight and retire.
A dodgy hand, bad back and personal problems...
Calzaghe needs to retire before he loses to someone who should not be able to beat him.
I know his hand is bad but a bad back?
And personal problems ???
What personal problems does he have now that stop him from fighting effectively.
Kassim Ouma has personal problems, Calzaghe has a life that most of us would love to experience
Calzaghe has had pull out of fights because of his back...
His hand can 'go' at any time
He is going though marital trouble
He is 34 years old... It is time to quit on top IMO. ;)
I had a bad back once, I got over it.
His divorce is over, he's shacked up with a fucking hottie now, anyways why does that stop him boxing? I don't imagine he's the type to cry into a beer glass.
His hands are fucked I agree, but then Cory Spinks' hands are almost useless and yet he still fights ok. :P
Well DaxxKahn answered that for me:
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Agreed!!!!!!! get out while you are intact and still have something left..No shame in it....Joe has had a good career....He will be a future HOF fighter due to his longevity at 168 at solid grasp of the WBO belt for so long
he has money why stick around
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Nah I disagree entirely and I would have thought that you of all people Britkid would hate it when a champion leaves undefeated.
I mean what happens to the linear championship?
All the greats have to lose, pass the torch onto a younger, fresher fighter who then runs with it for a brief moment until he in turn is vanquished and the a new King crowned.
Retiring with all the belts is like playing pass the parcel and when it stops on you, you just take it and leave, unsporting in the extreme.
Personally I have far more respect for aging warhorses who carry on and fall in battle to a young pretender.
Go out on your shield man!!!!
Retirement is for pussies.
Death with Honour
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I would have perferred Joey Spina over this bum. Calzaghe looks like he's just gonna sit on that Lacy win for the rest of his career. Easy fight for him when the style is Jeff Lacy's. But the hype of the fight is enough to hold him dowwn for his career, I'll doubt he'll take another risk again.
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
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Originally Posted by Lyle
You can't ever say Joe has ducked anyone :beat:
This is the bullshit that I can't stand from fighters...they say they are the best and yet SELDOM challenege themseleves to achieve more. Joe is going to retire soon and we'll never say he handled anyone and everyone....he beat an OLD Chris Eubank and a YOUNG Jeff Lacy he never fought anyone in their prime and never beat anyone near their prime!
It ain't like the fights are not there to be made...Green, Kessler, Johnson, Tarver, Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr., Jermain Taylor, Chad Dawson....Clinton Woods. Joe has all the choices in the world and he choses this f*****...it's a damn shame
Why won't he fight in America???.....Maybe he saw hHattons fight against Collazo and Realized it's a different game all together here
It's a square shaped canvas with Turnbuckles in the corners surrounded by ropes.
You enter it and fight you're opponent under the Queensberry rules.
Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
It's a square shaped canvas with Turnbuckles in the corners surrounded by ropes.
You enter it and fight you're opponent under the Queensberry rules.
Hope this helps.
So you're saying the ref and the judges are irrelevant ;)
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
They're supposably impartial... no matter what country.
That's not my point though... Daxx is saying that after watching Ricky Hatton coming to America and being out boxed and receiving a win from what should of been a draw that Calzaghe won't come to America...
Coming to America had nothing to do with Hatton's performance, fact is his camp did a bad job of brining him up in weight and his strategist did an even worse job in thinking he could out maul some one naturally 2 stones heavier than him.
Who cares where the ring was?
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
They're supposably impartial... no matter what country.
That's not my point though... Daxx is saying that after watching Ricky Hatton coming to America and being out boxed and receiving a win from what should of been a draw that Calzaghe won't come to America...
Coming to America had nothing to do with Hatton's performance, fact is his camp did a bad job of brining him up in weight and his strategist did an even worse job in thinking he could out maul some one naturally 2 stones heavier than him.
Who cares where the ring was?
because they think the impartialness of the judges and the ref are going to effect performance and in ways it does.
But if Hatton got a decision that was supposed to be a draw here, he would have got a unanimous decision in England, or at least thats the thought.
But if it doesn't matter where the ring is, why won't Joe give it a try?
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Who says he won't? Who is available in October?
The date was set before they found an opponent, no one said this was a super fight, I'll just glad to have seen him take a break, get active and ready to go into a big fight.
Re: CALZAGHES OPPONENT REVEALED
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Originally Posted by bilbo
Nah I disagree entirely and I would have thought that you of all people Britkid would hate it when a champion leaves undefeated.
I mean what happens to the linear championship?
All the greats have to lose, pass the torch onto a younger, fresher fighter who then runs with it for a brief moment until he in turn is vanquished and the a new King crowned.
Retiring with all the belts is like playing pass the parcel and when it stops on you, you just take it and leave, unsporting in the extreme.
Personally I have far more respect for aging warhorses who carry on and fall in battle to a young pretender.
Go out on your shield man!!!!
Retirement is for pussies.
Death with Honour
Unfortunately your last quote is bit to close to the knuckle to be even ironic...
I have never have slagged off a fighter who has retired.
This sport is barbaric; I love it; but I can see why some people want it banned.
So when a fighter retires, even if it ruins a lineage or is before a fighter fulfills his destiny IMO; who am I to criticize? I am not taking the punches or doing the sacrifices required to be a world class fighter.
Surely you do not want to see Calzaghe ultimately become another Ali or Holyfield and delude himself that he still has what it takes? It is much less painful to be a Marciano or Ricardo Lopez. ;)
