Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
CC for shza. This is what I keep trying to say. Very few people in the USA know who Joe or Kess are. In fact most people would have no idea who Lacy is. A Joe vs Kess fight in the USA would not be a big bit gate draw but would do ok on ppv. A Joe vs Kess fight in Demark or England would,im sure, do HUGE numbers at the gate and still do well on ppv. If Joe were able to unify the super-mids he probably then would get a big name American. Untill that happens he wont be getting shat.
I dont agreee with the thought that most people dont know who Lacy is....He got more media attention in america for a Stretch that had a majority of the Boxing community Buzzing....
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
CC for shza. This is what I keep trying to say. Very few people in the USA know who Joe or Kess are. In fact most people would have no idea who Lacy is. A Joe vs Kess fight in the USA would not be a big bit gate draw but would do ok on ppv. A Joe vs Kess fight in Demark or England would,im sure, do HUGE numbers at the gate and still do well on ppv. If Joe were able to unify the super-mids he probably then would get a big name American. Untill that happens he wont be getting shat.
I dont agreee with the thought that most people dont know who Lacy is....He got more media attention in america for a Stretch that had a majority of the Boxing community Buzzing....
The "boxing community" in the states of course knows who Lacy is,but your average American sports fan(NFL,NBA,etc...) do not. My point is that Joe would make much more cash fighting Kessler in europe.
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by 1st rd ko
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Originally Posted by shza
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Each is trying to build their reputation in the US though, not declare it... ;)
It's the easiest way that the fight gets made...
No one can bicker over home advantage.
The American public know of Joe, it's a unification bout and the USA or england are the same to Kessler.
So how many tickets would a fight like this sell in the USA, you reckon?
Not many. Disagree that the American public know of Joe--a few boxing fans definitely do, but it's not like he's a big name here. And no one here has heard of Kessler.
CC for shza. This is what I keep trying to say. Very few people in the USA know who Joe or Kess are. In fact most people would have no idea who Lacy is. A Joe vs Kess fight in the USA would not be a big bit gate draw but would do ok on ppv. A Joe vs Kess fight in Demark or England would,im sure, do HUGE numbers at the gate and still do well on ppv. If Joe were able to unify the super-mids he probably then would get a big name American. Untill that happens he wont be getting shat.
I dont agreee with the thought that most people dont know who Lacy is....He got more media attention in america for a Stretch that had a majority of the Boxing community Buzzing....
The "boxing community" in the states of course knows who Lacy is,but your average American sports fan(NFL,NBA,etc...) do not. My point is that Joe would make much more cash fighting Kessler in europe.
Yes you are correct....I thought you were talking strictly Boxing community with Lacy...My BAd Bro...Kessler and Calzaghe do mean more in there respective countries than most Boxers in the USA as a whole
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
having the wbc and wba titles is better the holding the lesser valued wbo and ibf belts so surely it would be a must for joe ( but the fight won't happen ) being offer 3.4 million is a large amount of cash, the most joe has ever been offered surely joe will take the fight ( the fight won't happen ) surely the chance of becomeing the undisputed super middle weight champion is a huge standing, so joe will take the fight ( er er no the fight won't happen ) why because joe and frank warren aren't interested in tough fights they just talk one, they want a retired 41 year old b-hop to fight.
kesslers offerd 3.4 million so he has every right to want the fight in his home country, he's the one chasing the fight joes running from it, im fed up of hearing joe say he isn't looking to fight kessler
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by nuclear bull
having the wbc and wba titles is better the holding the lesser valued wbo and ibf belts so surely it would be a must for joe ( but the fight won't happen ) being offer 3.4 million is a large amount of cash, the most joe has ever been offered surely joe will take the fight ( the fight won't happen ) surely the chance of becomeing the undisputed super middle weight champion is a huge standing, so joe will take the fight ( er er no the fight won't happen ) why because joe and frank warren aren't interested in tough fights they just talk one, they want a retired 41 year old b-hop to fight.
kesslers offerd 3.4 million so he has every right to want the fight in his home country, he's the one chasing the fight joes running from it, im fed up of hearing joe say he isn't looking to fight kessler
I agree with most of your statement, but the World Titles mean Jack shit mate, Joe might hold the two you say are inferior but id rank IBF ahead of WBA but thats not the point, Joe is the attraction hear he holds the No.1 posistion, you know Joe's only excuse is being screwed by the Judges, but for that amount of money he should have faith in his skills and take the fight.
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
if JOE C really wants to make an impression for us American bastards then hes gotta fight Kessler in LAS VEGAS at MGM GRAND there case solved. win win situation. HOLLAAAAAAAAAR
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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He beat Mundane in Australia Lyle.
and he didn't even KO him
Wowuweewow 2 out of 38 fights outside of DENMARK...not even outside of Europe.
Kessler is gay, he looks like a pussy little UFC fighter with those goofy a** tatoos!
Are you retarded ???, Kessler has fought in Australia and Las Vegas and i think it is outside of Europe
WOOOOOOOOOW what abouth yours great great Calzaghe 2 out of 42 fights outside of UK not even outside of Europe
By the way Calzaghe looks like a homosexual in a gay-bar ;D
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Calzaghe looks like a homo in a gay bar? as apposed to one outside of a gay bar? haha... you muppet...
This is coming from some one who is practicly hanging out of the arse of Kessler... with his little quiff and special Tattoo he stole from a film that is nearly 10 years old... yeah... I'd say he looks pretty queer... ;)
You and all the other fan boys are just saw because the best thing to come out of Denmark where those cartoons... :P
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
if JOE C really wants to make an impression for us American bastards then hes gotta fight Kessler in LAS VEGAS at MGM GRAND there case solved. win win situation. HOLLAAAAAAAAAR
The only problem with that is the age old arguement Those guys being Relative no namers in the state....Dont think they could sell out Vegas or the Boardwalk...
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
To be honest mate Lyle aint the biggest fan of Calzaghe, he was just making a judgement that Kessler is not as good as you and your Danish foot soldiers think he is. And i agree.
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
Money is a factor.
If Jeff Wald can offer Calzaghe more money to fight Manfredo, why not take it.?
Calzaghe should take the highest offer.
Should Calzaghe fight Kessler? Again, this sounds like the fight the people want to see.
Kessler has not beat anyone worth mentioning (IMO)
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
Money is a factor.
If Jeff Wald can offer Calzaghe more money to fight Manfredo, why not take it.?
Calzaghe should take the highest offer.
Should Calzaghe fight Kessler? Again, this sounds like the fight the people want to see.
Kessler has not beat anyone worth mentioning (IMO)
Thing is Calzaghe wont make $3.7 million against Manfredo, he was paid less than half for that agaisnt Jeff Lacy.
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
Money is a factor.
If Jeff Wald can offer Calzaghe more money to fight Manfredo, why not take it.?
Calzaghe should take the highest offer.
Should Calzaghe fight Kessler? Again, this sounds like the fight the people want to see.
Kessler has not beat anyone worth mentioning (IMO)
Unbelievable. This coming from the guy who was so upset about Floyd taking more money to fight Baldomir and not Margarito, who "has not beat anyone worth mentioning (IMO)." ::**
There, at least Baldomir was the undisputed champ and had better names on his record than Margarito does. Here, on the other hand, Manfredo has beaten no one good and couldn't even win the Contender!
No excuses. Calzaghe is ducking Kessler if he fights Manfredo.
Re: Kessler offers Calzaghe $3,4 mill
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
do you always ask some one with a different opinion from you if they are retarded? retard.
Nope,but lyle most be a retard if he dont know Australia and Las Vegas are outside of Europe
But do you think it`s ok lyle call Kessler bad names but then i do it to Calzaghe it is a bad thing
To be honest mate Lyle aint the biggest fan of Calzaghe, he was just making a judgement that Kessler is not as good as you and your Danish foot soldiers think he is. And i agree.
Let us see who is right and who is wrong then or if Calzaghe and Kessler meet,but to be honest i dont think it will happen