Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Sam Peter couldn't beat Wladimir, Shadow...... and by your rational he's the lesser of the Klitschko Brothers.......so I doubt that your logic finds a way that Sam Peter beats Vitali.
Sanders threw straight punches too.....Sam Peter, not so much
I said that he had the better chin out of the two. Wlad is definitely the more athletic between the two. You keep on harping the fact that Peter lost to Klitschko and that ensures that he will be defeated again? ::** :P O.K. Using that reasoning, I guess since Maskaev K.O.'d Vitali in the 1st round it must be bound to happen again. ^-^
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
Sanders' left cross is as short and straight as it gets.....yeah he slings his body around like a gorrilla but that punch lands and I doubt Sam Peter could take that either.
...once again, Vitali never been knocked down.....Sam Peter couldn't KO Wlad or James Toney
Even drunken irishmen know that certain styles can beat other styles.....take a look at Shane Mosley-Vernon Forrest.....and yeah I'm comparing that to Wladimir-Sam Peter.
Just accept the fact Sam Peter lost.....you accepted the fact Vitali lost vs Lennox Lewis why is accepting Sam Peter's loss to Wladimir so difficult for you?
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Sanders' left cross is as short and straight as it gets.....yeah he slings his body around like a gorrilla but that punch lands and I doubt Sam Peter could take that either.
...once again, Vitali never been knocked down.....Sam Peter couldn't KO Wlad or James Toney
Even drunken irishmen know that certain styles can beat other styles.....take a look at Shane Mosley-Vernon Forrest.....and yeah I'm comparing that to Wladimir-Sam Peter.
Just accept the fact Sam Peter lost.....you accepted the fact Vitali lost vs Lennox Lewis why is accepting Sam Peter's loss to Wladimir so difficult for you?
I think they love Hating on Vitali......he was beating the British Champ and they can't stand it.....so they H8 on him!!! Peter is 1 step up from a journeyman fighter...2 more losses will comfirm this status....Maskiev and Vitali will be the 2....
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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Fighting James Toney is a little different than fighting Vitali Klitschko.Corrie Sanders is a much more explosive FAST puncher compared to Peter and look what Vitali did to him.Peter would not scare Vitali in the slightest.
Of course it is. Toney is a far more superior athlete and a much better boxer than Vitali could ever hope to be. Sanders was a fatass when he fought Vitali and still absorbed a lot of punishment. Peter will molest Vitali in the ring. :P
If you think Toney is a far better athlete than Vitali then there is no point in trying to make a point with you. ::**
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Sanders' left cross is as short and straight as it gets.....yeah he slings his body around like a gorrilla but that punch lands and I doubt Sam Peter could take that either.
...once again, Vitali never been knocked down.....Sam Peter couldn't KO Wlad or James Toney
Even drunken irishmen know that certain styles can beat other styles.....take a look at Shane Mosley-Vernon Forrest.....and yeah I'm comparing that to Wladimir-Sam Peter.
Just accept the fact Sam Peter lost.....you accepted the fact Vitali lost vs Lennox Lewis why is accepting Sam Peter's loss to Wladimir so difficult for you?
It's not hard for me to accept at all. As a matter of fact, I only thought that 1 out of the 3 knockdowns were legit and still had Wladdy ahead on the scorecards at the end of the fight.
Who has ever KO'd James Toney. You throw the name around like he was an average euro-bum that trumps up a Valuev record. He's a ring legend!!
You're an ignorant fool if you think that Peter hasn't dramatically improved since his bout with Wlad.
To use an unrealted analogy: Do you use the same start game in a chess match if it continually proves unsuccessful? Of course not. And not unlike boxing, with a bit of diligence, your learning curve is heightened by more experience.
I can't see why you can't, or better put, won't admit that Peter looked like a different fighter when he fought Toney the second time around.
I think that Peter will do all the proving I don't need to do here in the ring. That reminds me: I better start inquiring about Pabst going public because southern sales will skyrocket when Bitchko.inc goes down the pipe like a stinky turd. ;D
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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If you think Toney is a far better athlete than Vitali then there is no point in trying to make a point with you. ::**
No, let me restate: I think Toney's athletic abilities are in a different stratosphere than the awkward, clumsy, clown-like skills of your hero.
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
....Yeah who has ever KO'd Toney.....that's all well and good for 160-Cruiser to use that excuse but when you are a HEAVYWEIGHT power puncher, you should KO people who have never been KO'd.....I mean that's what people expect from a bruiser like Peter....he came close but there is only so much you can do with JUST POWER, especially vs a guy like Toney.
Had Sam Peter set up punches better and even took something off of some of them then I beleive he could have KO'd James Toney. Improved since the first fight??? Yes.....enough to beat Wlad or Vitali??? NO
Fact is Sam hasn't shown he can do those things when he's being peppered with a good jab from a taller fighter. The Julius Long fight proved absolutely nothing and he needs to fight someone like Shannon Briggs (just because I want to see dreads get KTFO) or Larry Donald and KO them to really show me how much he has improved
The Klitschko's have the style to set up punches which gives them the advantage vs ANYONE.
You mean James' athletic ability to be able to wobble but not fall down???? Like a weeble??? Because he's so fucking fat???
I don't ONLY drink PBR.....beer is beer I drink what I feel like at the time.....and the more I read your posts the more I am eyeing the Maker's Mark in my bar.
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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If you think Toney is a far better athlete than Vitali then there is no point in trying to make a point with you. ::**
No, let me restate: I think Toney's athletic abilities are in a different stratosphere than the awkward, clumsy, clown-like skills of your hero.
Oh yea Vitali is so clumsy and has such clown-like skills he only was a six time kickboxing champion ,won 195 out of 210 amateur fights and had 34 KO's in 35 wins!Yea i can see how you would think he isn't much of an athlete. ::**
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
Peter isn't a rabbit puncher. Toney and Wlad leaned into them. Not a power puncher? I'm pretty sure he put Wlad down with a punch to the jaw 8)
HOWEVER, as a guy who has been on a crowded and abandoned Sam Peter bandwagon, you guys are getting way to carried away. Why in the hell would Wlad ever be scared of Peter? He handled Peter. He made the biggest statement of his entire career against Peter. He dispelled stamina and heart questions against Peter. Why would Wlad be scared of Peter? He tasted his power and won a lopsided decision. You guys are getting carried away. Peter is what he is. He isn't Superman and it would take a lot for him to beat Wlad. Vitali? Not so much I don't think.
Call him Clinchko all you want, the guy is the champion and he hasn't showed fear against anyone.
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....Yeah who has ever KO'd Toney.....that's all well and good for 160-Cruiser to use that excuse but when you are a HEAVYWEIGHT power puncher, you should KO people who have never been KO'd.....I mean that's what people expect from a bruiser like Peter....he came close but there is only so much you can do with JUST POWER, especially vs a guy like Toney.
Had Sam Peter set up punches better and even took something off of some of them then I beleive he could have KO'd James Toney. Improved since the first fight??? Yes.....enough to beat Wlad or Vitali??? NO
Fact is Sam hasn't shown he can do those things when he's being peppered with a good jab from a taller fighter. The Julius Long fight proved absolutely nothing and he needs to fight someone like Shannon Briggs (just because I want to see dreads get KTFO) or Larry Donald and KO them to really show me how much he has improved
The Klitschko's have the style to set up punches which gives them the advantage vs ANYONE.
You mean James' athletic ability to be able to wobble but not fall down???? Like a weeble??? Because he's so F****** fat???
I don't ONLY drink PBR.....beer is beer I drink what I feel like at the time.....and the more I read your posts the more I am eyeing the Maker's Mark in my bar.
First point of clarification: All beers aren't equal
Second point: Lay off the Maker's Mark, Lyle. You'll have the shits for the next 2 days. Plus, southern trends seem to indicate excessive consumption of that piss may act like viagra when you're feeding farm animals. ;D Just joking. ;)
In all seriousness, Toney has an amazing chin. He also has the best defensive roll technique that I've seen. Peter was never in with a craftsman like that before and you can tell that he improved enough to make a good showing for himself the first time. The fact that he couldn't KO Toney really doesn't mean anything...who could? Well, someone could, but it sure as hell wouldn't be Bitchko.inc.
Toney was phenom. Wladdy and big Sister are not in the same category. Peter dumps all over Vitali and smears his face in it inside 5 rounds. :P
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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If you think Toney is a far better athlete than Vitali then there is no point in trying to make a point with you. ::**
No, let me restate: I think Toney's athletic abilities are in a different stratosphere than the awkward, clumsy, clown-like skills of your hero.
Oh yea Vitali is so clumsy and has such clown-like skills he only was a six time kickboxing champion ,won 195 out of 210 amateur fights and had 34 KO's in 35 wins!Yea i can see how you would think he isn't much of an athlete. ::**
He's a clown with a stupid looking puss. He moves about the ring with a stupid look on his puss like he just tasted his own feces. ::** >:mad Who had he fought in the amateurs? A bunch of EuroBums and got his assssss KO'd by Maskaev. They probably sent him to Thailand to fight 5 foot Thai boxers to bolster a more than suspect record. He's a fraud and a joke and will be exposed as such very shortly.
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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If you think Toney is a far better athlete than Vitali then there is no point in trying to make a point with you. ::**
No, let me restate: I think Toney's athletic abilities are in a different stratosphere than the awkward, clumsy, clown-like skills of your hero.
Oh yea Vitali is so clumsy and has such clown-like skills he only was a six time kickboxing champion ,won 195 out of 210 amateur fights and had 34 KO's in 35 wins!Yea i can see how you would think he isn't much of an athlete. ::**
He's a clown with a stupid looking puss. He moves about the ring with a stupid look on his puss like he just tasted his own feces. ::** >:mad Who had he fought in the amateurs? A bunch of EuroBums and got his assssss KO'd by Maskaev. They probably sent him to Thailand to fight 5 foot Thai boxers to bolster a more than suspect record. He's a fraud and a joke and will be exposed as such very shortly.
He was never KO'd by Maskaev, show me the proof.Do you think european fighters are inferior to american fighters?What is your problem with fighters from different Countries?Why are you so angry that a European heavyweight can actually fight?
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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If you think Toney is a far better athlete than Vitali then there is no point in trying to make a point with you. ::**
No, let me restate: I think Toney's athletic abilities are in a different stratosphere than the awkward, clumsy, clown-like skills of your hero.
Oh yea Vitali is so clumsy and has such clown-like skills he only was a six time kickboxing champion ,won 195 out of 210 amateur fights and had 34 KO's in 35 wins!Yea i can see how you would think he isn't much of an athlete. ::**
He's a clown with a stupid looking puss. He moves about the ring with a stupid look on his puss like he just tasted his own feces. ::** >:mad Who had he fought in the amateurs? A bunch of EuroBums and got his assssss KO'd by Maskaev. They probably sent him to Thailand to fight 5 foot Thai boxers to bolster a more than suspect record. He's a fraud and a joke and will be exposed as such very shortly.
He was never KO'd by Maskaev, show me the proof.Do you think european fighters are inferior to american fighters?What is your problem with fighters from different Countries?Why are you so angry that a European heavyweight can actually fight?
You lie! He was stopped by Maskaev in the amateurs in the 1st round. Go ask Lyle. Even he'll admit that. As for the EruoBoxer question: It depends where they are fighting? I think England to be the best place to test the waters, but eventually, all paths lead to the States. That's just the way it is. Vitali is a fraud and has Ukrainian mob affiliations! >:mad :P He will be stopped!!!
Re: Maskaev and promotional spin: The B.S. is really flying now!
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by The Shadow
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If you think Toney is a far better athlete than Vitali then there is no point in trying to make a point with you. ::**
No, let me restate: I think Toney's athletic abilities are in a different stratosphere than the awkward, clumsy, clown-like skills of your hero.
Oh yea Vitali is so clumsy and has such clown-like skills he only was a six time kickboxing champion ,won 195 out of 210 amateur fights and had 34 KO's in 35 wins!Yea i can see how you would think he isn't much of an athlete. ::**
He's a clown with a stupid looking puss. He moves about the ring with a stupid look on his puss like he just tasted his own feces. ::** >:mad Who had he fought in the amateurs? A bunch of EuroBums and got his assssss KO'd by Maskaev. They probably sent him to Thailand to fight 5 foot Thai boxers to bolster a more than suspect record. He's a fraud and a joke and will be exposed as such very shortly.
He was never KO'd by Maskaev, show me the proof.Do you think european fighters are inferior to american fighters?What is your problem with fighters from different Countries?Why are you so angry that a European heavyweight can actually fight?
You lie! He was stopped by Maskaev in the amateurs in the 1st round. Go ask Lyle. Even he'll admit that. As for the EruoBoxer question: It depends where they are fighting? I think England to be the best place to test the waters, but eventually, all paths lead to the States. That's just the way it is. Vitali is a fraud and has Ukrainian mob affiliations! >:mad :P He will be stopped!!!
You said he was KO'd.There is a big difference between stopping a guy by knocking him out and the corner stopping a fight because their fighter has a hurt hand, and that is what happened in that fight.
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Vitali was never KNOCKED DOWN....Vitali's corner stopped the fight as he took a few too many flush right crosses.
You know how the amateurs are don't you Shadow?
As for your comment on beer....yes not all beer is equal but sometimes you feel like a PBR and sometimes you feel like a Miller Lite and sometimes you feel like Hefewiezen or Carlsberg or Piraat or Newcastle or Boddington or Corona or Tecate and so on.....I mean you don't drink Guinness EVERY DAY do you??? If you do you're stupider than I previously thought
