Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by Greig
Anyone who picks Judah over Cotto is in need of psychological help.
Baldomir, not a noted puncher, had him out on his feet. Cotto is far too sharp and punches far too hard.
I agree, but by that logic Mayweather should have knocked him out right? Mayweather dealt him much more punishment then Baldomir and Zab didn't go down ???
Yeah! Mayweather should have KO'ed him BUT logic also tell you that PBF fought Zab on the defensive and and that PBF did NOT take any risks and did not let his hands go. PBF didn't do that sooo how could he have KO'ed Zab?
Now if PBF would have fought like that agressive and letting his hands go logic tells you he would have caught Zab.
Zab was stunned in his last 2 fights...... logic also tells you Cotto is stronger and more accurate then Baldomir and IMO, PBF at 147 and Cotto would stop Zab.
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by Starr
Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Hahaha, please. Judah made Floyd look beatable? Judah also cured cancer. Right Starr?
But I don't like this fight for Cotto. He's a better boxer with better stamina, better defense, better chin and better power whilst Judah is nothing more then outstanding speed and pop in a shiny little package. I don't like the fight for Cotto just because Judah can be a tough guy to get to and it takes a while for you to figure him out. It would definitely be a very interesting fight. Cotto doesn't possess the best right hand, which is usually a sure fire way to beat Judah, but he does have the left hook.
And Judah gets hit with a lot of stuff in transition, usually as he's backing up or coming in or the other fighter is. So when the topic of Judah - Cotto came up a couple months ago, I didn't like Cotto's chances. But Cotto has stepped up his game and he does the little things in between now and just isn't zoned into getting inside. I think his trainer got on him about that after the Torres fight.
So I'm going with Cotto, but it could take a while.
I'll go with Zab to beat Cotto 10 out of 10 times.
And NO Zab didn't cure cancer, never in his wildest dreams will zab be chuck norris!!!
Nobody with a suspect chin beats ANYBODY 10 out of 10 times.
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
They BOTH could be known as having suspect chins couldn't they?
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
The little punk is fast. I don't think anybody doubts Judah's hand speed. This, combined with his southpaw stance, makes him more dangerous. Let's not forget, he was dominating Tszyu easily in the first round of their fight... before Kostya caught him with the sweetest, most beautiful (remember, I'm a Judah hater) right hand I've ever seen.
:appl:
From one hater to another:
THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL, MAN. :'(
Heh heh heh. :coolclick:
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
CC back, wack man! Hey, you know ME.... I'm incorrigible.
I promise that for 2007, I'm gonna find something nice to say about the little punk.
NOT !!
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by Greig
Anyone who picks Judah over Cotto is in need of psychological help.
Baldomir, not a noted puncher, had him out on his feet. Cotto is far too sharp and punches far too hard.
If that fight ever gets made, I'll be emptying the bank on Friday to bet on Cotto by KO, and I'll be there first thing Monday morning to put what I made in...
Judah was outta shape for that fight, clearly not the same fighter who fought Mayweather or Spinks. Hell while we are at it, why don't we rule out all chances Oscar has of beating Floyd, cus if he couldn't even deal with Felix Sturm's jab and defense how the hell is he gonna deal with Floyd's? ;)
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
They BOTH could be known as having suspect chins couldn't they?
My love Zabs chin stopped being suspect the second Baldomir (with his very impressive 13 KO's in 40 something fights) rocked him. But I'll get to Zab later.... Now
"PEOPLE" have said that Cottos had a 'suspect' chin since the fight against Bailey but most say it was more out there against Chop-Chop so lets see, since then hes fought Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana all together combined they stand at 123-2 with 82 ko's.
He was down and hurt against Torres.
If his chin was sooo weak don't you think anyone of those guys should have KO'ed him? I mean 82 Ko's in 123-wins.... Thats pretty deep.
Zab on the other hand IMO as I said his chin to me is no longer suspect, it stopped being suspect a long time ago.....
Bergman dropped him, Millet dropped him, Tszyu KNOCKED HIM THE FWOCK OUT!!, Spinks dropped him, Baldomir rocked him, PBF rocked him.
Suspect chin? Hell the fwcok NO!!
Thats a 'Princess House Crystal Glass Chin' IMO....
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
So does Gatti have a glass chin for getting knocked out by Baldomir then ???
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
They BOTH could be known as having suspect chins couldn't they?
My love Zabs chin stopped being suspect the second Baldomir (with his very impressive 13 KO's in 40 something fights) rocked him. But I'll get to Zab later.... Now
"PEOPLE" have said that Cottos had a 'suspect' chin since the fight against Bailey but most say it was more out there against Chop-Chop so lets see, since then hes fought Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana all together combined they stand at 123-2 with 82 ko's.
He was down and hurt against Torres.
If his chin was sooo weak don't you think anyone of those guys should have KO'ed him? I mean 82 Ko's in 123-wins.... Thats pretty deep.
Zab on the other hand IMO as I said his chin to me is no longer suspect, it stopped being suspect a long time ago.....
Bergman dropped him, Millet dropped him, Tszyu KNOCKED HIM THE FWOCK OUT!!, Spinks dropped him, Baldomir rocked him, PBF rocked him.
Suspect chin? Hell the fwcok NO!!
Thats a 'Princess House Crystal Glass Chin' IMO....
Come on. As if the Spinks knockdown was anything other than a balance shot. And I did NOT see Floyd rock him. I saw him drop Floyd and rock him though.
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
hes fought Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana all together combined they stand at 123-2 with 82 ko's.
Against what type of opposition ???
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by Starr
So does Gatti have a glass chin for getting knocked out by Baldomir then ???
No, Gattis a dilusional fighter who I respect but is WAAAYYYY past his best days and should have retired after the PBF fight.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
They BOTH could be known as having suspect chins couldn't they?
My love Zabs chin stopped being suspect the second Baldomir (with his very impressive 13 KO's in 40 something fights) rocked him. But I'll get to Zab later.... Now
"PEOPLE" have said that Cottos had a 'suspect' chin since the fight against Bailey but most say it was more out there against Chop-Chop so lets see, since then hes fought Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana all together combined they stand at 123-2 with 82 ko's.
He was down and hurt against Torres.
If his chin was sooo weak don't you think anyone of those guys should have KO'ed him? I mean 82 Ko's in 123-wins.... Thats pretty deep.
Zab on the other hand IMO as I said his chin to me is no longer suspect, it stopped being suspect a long time ago.....
Bergman dropped him, Millet dropped him, Tszyu KNOCKED HIM THE FWOCK OUT!!, Spinks dropped him, Baldomir rocked him, PBF rocked him.
Suspect chin? Hell the fwcok NO!!
Thats a 'Princess House Crystal Glass Chin' IMO....
Come on. As if the Spinks knockdown was anything other than a balance shot. And I did NOT see Floyd rock him. I saw him drop Floyd and rock him though.
Well in that case, as IF Torres didn't push Cotto off. ;)
I make no excuses he was hurt and he was down.
Zab fans on the other hand ALWAYS say shit! like
'Well, Zab that fought son and so......."
What the fwock! is that.... That makes no sense thats like me saying "Well, if the JCC that fought 'Chapo' Rosario would have fought every night then no one would have ever beat him." ::**
I don't make excuses when a fighter of mine loses, I don't say 'Well, if the JCC that fought' or 'If the JCC version that fought'
Thats nonsense, Zab is Zab every fight weather he wins or loses it has nothing to do with versions of him......
Lack of focus, determination, training etc. etc. etc. thats hall him, thats not the 'Lazy Zab version of him, it's just him.....
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
hes fought Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana all together combined they stand at 123-2 with 82 ko's.
Against what type of opposition ???
Against the type of opposition thats been put in front of him....
Whomever, whenever hes there to fight and win not do a half ass job.....
Against undefeated fighters and world champs.
Against people who actually have a shot at him.
Not some old beat up fighters (Rivera, Martell, Pineda & Baldomir) and one of those guys Baldomir whos seen as a mere steping stone, GUESS WHAT HE DID?
He changed the script..... ;D I loved every second of it...
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Against the type of opposition thats been put in front of him....
Whomever, whenever hes there to fight and win not do a half ass job.....
Against undefeated fighters and world champs.
Against people who actually have a shot at him.
Oh, I was referring to the people you were mentioning, Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana.
Once again you misread what I said. Get it right please!!!!! >:mad
;)
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
They BOTH could be known as having suspect chins couldn't they?
My love Zabs chin stopped being suspect the second Baldomir (with his very impressive 13 KO's in 40 something fights) rocked him. But I'll get to Zab later.... Now
"PEOPLE" have said that Cottos had a 'suspect' chin since the fight against Bailey but most say it was more out there against Chop-Chop so lets see, since then hes fought Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana all together combined they stand at 123-2 with 82 ko's.
He was down and hurt against Torres.
If his chin was sooo weak don't you think anyone of those guys should have KO'ed him? I mean 82 Ko's in 123-wins.... Thats pretty deep.
come on man, dont pretend that not getting KOd by magalini means anything
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
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Originally Posted by Greig
Anyone who picks Judah over Cotto is in need of psychological help.
Baldomir, not a noted puncher, had him out on his feet. Cotto is far too sharp and punches far too hard.
I agree, but by that logic Mayweather should have knocked him out right? Mayweather dealt him much more punishment then Baldomir and Zab didn't go down ???
Yeah! Mayweather should have KO'ed him BUT logic also tell you that PBF fought Zab on the defensive and and that PBF did NOT take any risks and did not let his hands go. PBF didn't do that sooo how could he have KO'ed Zab?
Now if PBF would have fought like that agressive and letting his hands go logic tells you he would have caught Zab.
he did fight like that in 1 round...
the 12th, and what was the result...
he got caught by judah and ran for his life the rest of the round
it was also the 1 round even hamada had to give to judah
Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
hes fought Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana all together combined they stand at 123-2 with 82 ko's.
Against what type of opposition ???
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Against the type of opposition thats been put in front of him....
Whomever, whenever hes there to fight and win not do a half ass job.....
Against undefeated fighters and world champs.
Against people who actually have a shot at him.
Oh, I was referring to the people you were mentioning, Abdulaev, Torres, Branco, Malignaggi & Quintana.
Once again you misread what I said. Get it right please!!!!! >:mad
;)
I thought so.... :)
Thats the best you could come up with?
Damn!! You're rustier then I thought.....
