Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
There is no way the Mayweather fight is more dangerous to ODLH than fighting Winky Wright. FACT.
Mayweather is a better fighter PFP than Winky, but I'll grant that they would be equally difficult opponents for DLH, since Floyd's PFP superiority would be balanced out by the fact that Winky is naturally bigger.
But would Winky be more dangerous? I don't really see that. He's not a power puncher either.
And I still haven't seen anyone list a fighter who has gotten in the ring with more great opponents than DLH. Which is why he shouldn't be accused of ducking anyone.
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
He's had over 40 fights. Yet only one against an elite fighter.
and fighting Junior Witter will make that all better????
Also....you say that about Hatton but what do you think about Floyd Mayweather Jr.???
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
i cant help it and i try not to but i cant help but dislike a fighter and want them to lose because of the way they conduct themselves out of the ring. eg i would just love to see oscar put floyd on his a*** because i dislike the way floyd disrespects other fighters and claims that he has faught the best out there and if he retired after oscar he would cement his legacy as the greatest ever. bull S***.
and another reason i dislike floyd is because i think he is awesome in his talent and ability and he hasnt given the fans the fights they want and he hasnt given us the best ifghts he could have.
Ditto !!!!!!!!
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
There is no way the Mayweather fight is more dangerous to ODLH than fighting Winky Wright. FACT.
Mayweather is a better fighter PFP than Winky, but I'll grant that they would be equally difficult opponents for DLH, since Floyd's PFP superiority would be balanced out by the fact that Winky is naturally bigger.
But would Winky be more dangerous? I don't really see that. He's not a power puncher either.
And I still haven't seen anyone list a fighter who has gotten in the ring with more great opponents than DLH. Which is why he shouldn't be accused of ducking anyone.
No current boxer has faced ODH level of competition. In my opinion he has only lost 3 times: To Hopkins . 1st Mosley fight &8 Sturm. Was robbed vs. Trinidad & Mosley 2nd fight. Winky is the more dangerous foe, Winky atleast causes some bodily and facial damage. PBF just pom poms his way to decisions. What major fight has PBF had? That is the reason I dislike him. Can not wait for ODH to knockout the brash, big mouthed, self absorbed cheerleader with the pom poms.
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
He's had over 40 fights. Yet only one against an elite fighter.
and fighting Junior Witter will make that all better????
Also....you say that about Hatton but what do you think about Floyd Mayweather Jr.???
I never said facing Witter would change things. I don't think much of Witter the sprinter myself. I think Mayweather resume is clearly superior than Hatton's. The top 6 names on Mayweather's resume. Jose Luis Castillo (in his prime), Genaro Hernandez (past his prime), Diego Corrales (in his prime), Jesus Chavez (in his prime), Angel Manfredy (in his prime) and Carlos Hernandez (in his prime) are better than Hatton's top 6. Kostya Tszyu (past his prime), Luis Collazo (in his prime), Vince Phillips (way past his prime), Ben Tackie (past his prime), Juan Urango (in his prime) and Carlos Maussa (never had a prime).
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
Winky is the more dangerous foe, Winky atleast causes some bodily and facial damage. PBF just pom poms his way to decisions.
Baldomir was cut after one round.
Here's Judah's face:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...lowblow416.jpg
Here's Gatti's:
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...ttipuff300.jpg
Couldn't find many of Castillo, but here's one.
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/newsfoto/c...weather250.jpg
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
Winky-ODH would look like ODH-Sturm but with Oscar getting busted up a bit more.
Winky is bigger, he's defensively sound, he's got more power than anyone cares to notice.
Floyd is small, he's fast, hasn't carried true one punch power since his time at 130, and he usually fights fighters with GLARING WEAKNESSES...for example
Judah - ability to stick to a fight plan, glass chin
Baldomir - slow, plodding, yet not a power puncher
Gatti - cuts easy, all offense, never beat a top tier fighter
Mitchell - old, all defense, limited mobility due to injured knee
I mean just go down the list, the "impressive" fighters on Floyd's resume aren't really that impressive
As for Hatton's resume....yeah it could be better but then again he ain't always bragging about how he's the "greatest fighter ever in the history of boxing"
Floyd's trying to build a great lasting legacy without the foundation of good and great competition that the people before him have used.
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
What do you think Wright would do to Gatti??
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Winky-ODH would look like ODH-Sturm but with Oscar getting busted up a bit more.
Winky is bigger, he's defensively sound, he's got more power than anyone cares to notice.
Floyd is small, he's fast, hasn't carried true one punch power since his time at 130, and he usually fights fighters with GLARING WEAKNESSES...for example
Judah - ability to stick to a fight plan, glass chin
Baldomir - slow, plodding, yet not a power puncher
Gatti - cuts easy, all offense, never beat a top tier fighter
Mitchell - old, all defense, limited mobility due to injured knee
I mean just go down the list, the "impressive" fighters on Floyd's resume aren't really that impressive
As for Hatton's resume....yeah it could be better but then again he ain't always bragging about how he's the "greatest fighter ever in the history of boxing"
Floyd's trying to build a great lasting legacy without the foundation of good and great competition that the people before him have used.
So just cuz Hatton doesn't brag he should be excused for having such a weak resume? Hatton can't be bad mouthed for his poor level of competition cuz he's a nice guy. Is that the way it works?
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
Yes it is VD. Whenever you claim to be the greatest ever you automatically deserve the criticisms of your ignorance that goes along with such an erroneous statement.
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Yes it is VD. Whenever you claim to be the greatest ever you automatically deserve the criticisms of your ignorance that goes along with such an erroneous statement.
I see. So I guess these great fighters history and present who always looked for the toughest fight are really fucking stupid. Cuz from what your saying a fighter can fight a million bums, never challenge himself and it's okay. As long as he's a nice guy and doesn't run his mouth. Interesting.
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
I never said that nice guys that dont challenge themselves deserve to be highly credited as boxers with mediocre resumes. I am just saying that Mayweather gets the criticism he deserves.
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
So just cuz Hatton doesn't brag he should be excused for having such a weak resume? Hatton can't be bad mouthed for his poor level of competition cuz he's a nice guy. Is that the way it works?
Well bless his heart, Ricky TRIES to get fights vs the big guys......Floyd just started fighting DECENT fighters recently......and fucking shit he...FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. has fought such greats as HENRY BRUSELES as of a couple years ago.
Hatton fought some guys Floyd ducked....Tszyu, Vince Phillips, Ben Tackie.....those are good tough fighters.....tougher than Bruseles!!!
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
So just cuz Hatton doesn't brag he should be excused for having such a weak resume? Hatton can't be bad mouthed for his poor level of competition cuz he's a nice guy. Is that the way it works?
Well bless his heart, Ricky TRIES to get fights vs the big guys......Floyd just started fighting DECENT fighters recently......and fucking shit he...FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR. has fought such greats as HENRY BRUSELES as of a couple years ago.
Hatton fought some guys Floyd ducked....Tszyu, Vince Phillips, Ben Tackie.....those are good tough fighters.....tougher than Bruseles!!!
Mayweather fought guys Hatton's ducked. Jesus Chavez, Corrales and Judah. What's your point? Any yeah Brussles was garbage. But so where Dennis Pedersen and Carlos Vilches.
Re: Why DO fans dislike certain fighters?
Hatton was never at 130-135 and Zab Judah .....don't bring up that prick's name!
The point is VD, that Floyd Mayweather Jr. thinks he's better than Ray Robinson....the same Ray Robinson who fought 200 times, winning 173 fights and KO-ing 108 fighters from lightweight to middleweight, and fighting ALL TIME GREAT FIGHTERS ALL ALONG.
Make a case for Floyd being great VD.....you're good at trying to make Hatton look less than great but Ricky doesn't put himself on the same level as Floyd. Make a case for Floyd being great, your arguement is persueding people to like or respect Floyd...it's based on bad mouthing Ricky Hatton
