NOPE YOU ARE WRONG OSCAR DID NOT SAY MOJON HE SAID I BELIEVE HE SAID BOKON OR BOCON HOWEVER U SPELL IT BOKON MEANS SOMEBDY THAT TALKS ALOT OF SHIT BASICALLY AND USES ALOT OF BADWORDS IN HIS/HER VOCABULARYQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
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NOPE YOU ARE WRONG OSCAR DID NOT SAY MOJON HE SAID I BELIEVE HE SAID BOKON OR BOCON HOWEVER U SPELL IT BOKON MEANS SOMEBDY THAT TALKS ALOT OF SHIT BASICALLY AND USES ALOT OF BADWORDS IN HIS/HER VOCABULARYQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
Thanks for the Clarification.... ;) I thought it was alittle uncharacteristic that Oscar would say that, he is usually gracious even when his adversary is talking shite... Oh WellQuote:
Originally Posted by GOLDENBOY213
You're full of shit. Mayweather beat Gatti in one more round, and while he totally dominated the fight. ODLH was bleeding, and good hit by quite a few hard punches from Gatti. Sure Gatti was younger, but he also didn't know how to box at the time. Also Mayweather didn't compare his opponents to those of ODLH he just said that he could have beaten them, and he could. Also we all know Whitaker beat Oscar Dela Hoya, and we know that Sturm beat Dela Hoya far more convincingly than the first Castillo fight. Mayweather was landing more actual punches while Castillo would tie him up with one arm, and punch with the other. That is why he didn't win because Mayweather landed cleaner more effective blows throughout the fight, and it wasn't like Taylor-Wright where Wright not only landed like 60 more punches, but also was landing the cleaner blows, and it still a draw because of Taylor landing harder punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
all nice hype for the fight. its gonna be great on may 5th. de la hoya will be burning inside though and thats when he performs best
There was a BIG different between the Gatti Oscar beat and the Gatti Floyd beat and Gatti used to box in the amatuers too(according to Larry Merchant during the commentary of Ward Gatti 1). And I suggest you actually WATCH JLC and PBF and tell me who was the landing the cleaner punches. Floyd may have been doing so earlier in the fight but JLC was after that and JLC's punches looked heavier to me. WHitaker Oscar was close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Even if Floyd vs Castillo I was close, or if Floyd should have lost, it was FIVE YEARS ago, and its the ONE fight people bring up to try and nitpick away at Floyd. Well you know what, DLH will never beat a fighter like Mayweather because I still think he should have lost or at least gotten a draw with John John Molina back in 1995.. And if Georgio Campanello can drop Oscar in the first round, then Mayweather will punish him and score five knockdowns just like he did against Corrales. Because we all know fighters don't improve or have performances where they aren't at their absolute best.
;D ;D I think Floyd simply under estimated JLC,BIG mistake(I recall the horrendously annoying Uncle Roger saying that if you throw a beer bottle into the ring,it would hit Castillo ::** ::**(insinuating he would be easy to hit). And I was just adressing brother Taeth's points.JLC,thus far,is Floyd's biggest name,it's not as if it was some obscure fight or anything,I mean that was his last legitimate dangerous fight until De La Hoya. And I didn't use it as a barometer to judge Oscar-Floyd's fight,merely pointed out,JLC didn't score just by "holding with one hand and punching with the other">Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Baldomir and Judah were both dangerous fights. Only reason people don't acknowledge that is because Floyd made them look relatively easy. And because people just hate Zab and good for them.. But fact is Castillo was not regarded as a higher risk or reward prior to their fight, perhaps its made to seem as though he was due to what he has done in that fight and since... But as far as on Floyds behalf taking the fight, Castillo was not more dangerous, or seen as it at the time. It was also Floyds first fight at lightweight and his right arm was at least somewhat bothering him.. But of course that could never matter right. Not as if moving up in weight or fighting with an injury is difficult right mr Margarito fan ??? ;D :lickish:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Hmmm,yeah,Floyd injured his arm yet there was no sign of it being seriously hurt until JLC started beating him up and Roger was saying that they were going to knock the motherfuker out in the later rounds. Judah had lost the Baldo fight prior to the Floyd fight,90% though Floyd would actually stop him,I don't recall anyone saying it would be a dangerous fight other than a few rounds(and they were right)and Baldo....the most limited unified champ I've seen in years,how was he dangerous? power? Nope. Work rate.Nope.
(you got me on the Margarito part bastard >:mad :laugh: :laugh: ) Wait,Tony was fighting a 170 plus pounder!!! ;D :D :D
Well Floyd did have surgery on his right shoulder or rotator cuff sometime around this fight and he was somewhat hesitant with the right hand for most of the fight. And yeah most people weren't giving Judah or Baldomir much of a shot, and of course those who did would never admit it now,but my point was more that I doubt people were giving Castillo much of one against Mayweather either... As far as Tony fighting that bum Santos... Oh jeez. A 170 plus pounder that has what exactly? You want to talk about limited....But that's really besides the point as Tony only moved up 1 weight division from where he has been his whole career... When Floyd fought Baldomir it was in his 4th, and Baldo was the legit champ there, limited or not. It doesn't always matter so much what the majority are saying.. Most people are basically writing off Judahs chances now against Cotto... Just wait and see I have a feeling about this fight.. I can see why Cotto should be favoured but this is a huge step up for him and Im not sure he'll deal to well with Judahs speed personally. I probably won't really share this opinion a whole lot on the forum until the fights closer as I don't want to get too much flak thrown at me ;D.. But you wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
this kinda reminds me of the hype before the Gatti fight..mayweather just ran his mouth off all the time..but backed it up brilliantly
i knw DLH's no gatti, but i see mayweather shuttin evry1's mouth come may 5th
and..i find all the insults funny as hell, specially wen he brought up the trinidad fight
actully homie its fu and games all the time floyd knows and oscar knows this is to play with ur emotions make us excitedso we sepnd that money thas y oscar didnt punch hi ih his shit ... still think floyd winsQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
I have watched PBF-JLC over, and over, and PBF easily landed the better shots. He landed more power shots that I would have counted, and he obviously landed more jabs. Is it the first someone would disagree with the official punch stats? I think not.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
He did catch Mayweather a few times comming in, but most of it was how he scored his fights against Ndou.. Whether he was grabbing, and then opened up with both hands or not he still used holding PBF's arms as an advantage to hit PBF.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
I don't think they're neccisarily laughing but yeah it is a show. And it's a pretty good one. But you're 100% right on he bold. This is nothing compared to the Gatti build up. That was some really nasty stuff that Floyd said. But after the fight it was all love and Gatti even said it was all to grab some attention. Come on this is boxing...no grave is being dug because of TALK when you have this level of fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
And Oscar isn't mad. Oscar is going to fight a smart fight, he isn't going to bullrush blindly...
I think Oscar will give a lot of different looks early and make a lot of the early rounds close. The key for Oscar imo is what he does after he throws the lead left. Floyd is awesome at avoiding lead punches and has avoided a lot faster fighters then DLH. So he is going to have to put something behind it hit or miss. I look for him to work in the straight right from a distance to the body and head because when Floyd avoids punches he keeps his hands a little low so he has good vision. If DLH can take those oppurtunities to work in punches after that left hook, then he can give Floyd a serious run for his money. And I like the straight right just because it's the hardest punch to react to and Floyd has been hit with some straight punches before when they come behind something.
But, I still predict Floyd pulling it out especially in the later rounds and winning the fight by 3 or 4 points.