Re: LET'S PUT THE MODERN FIGHTER INTO THE BAREKNUCKLE ERA...
And apparently has a head like a Volkswagon beetle, which is always a good thing.
Re: LET'S PUT THE MODERN FIGHTER INTO THE BAREKNUCKLE ERA...
Re: LET'S PUT THE MODERN FIGHTER INTO THE BAREKNUCKLE ERA...
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Who?....Herbie Hide?
That one made me laugh out loud - fair play and cc for the giggle !!!!!
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Re: LET'S PUT THE MODERN FIGHTER INTO THE BAREKNUCKLE ERA...
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
I actually think mixed martial guys would do better against the bare knuckle fighters of old.
Boxing without gloves is an entirely different sport. Any defensive fighter would be fucked, you could slip and block the punches as easily any more, you'd have no protection for your hands and there was no limit to the number of rounds.
I'm sure guys like Tyson etc would do well but honestly Chuck Liddel would probably have been one mean mutha fuckker back then as he's virtually a bare knuckle brawler now and damn near unstoppable at present.
Chuck Lidell would get smashed up bareknuckles or not the guy is an
off balance musclebound MMA fighter id back any top ten heavyweight to knock him out with hands , there a difference between an MMA fighter and a world class boxer .
Look at Lidells elbows when he throws any kind of punch and compare it to a boxer ,
[the geezer can't punch . He might be able to punch going forward but a counter puncher ( genuine puncher ) can throw a knockout punch off the back foot, believe me he'd get sparked very quickly . The reason gloves were put on fists is to protect hands from heads not to protect heads from hands !!!!
The same fighters who are world champion with gloves would be world champion in the bareknuckle era because genuine world champs are smarter more adaptable and deal with crisis better than fighters who have the talent but never quite make it .
Non punchers can still do untold damage without gloves you'd just have a more evolved fighter with better skills .
The points null and void anyway like i said Gloves were put on fists to protect hands and as my old mate Scrap didly Ap said their hands were fucked after 10 fights .
Imagine Rafeal Marquez smashing somebody in the head he'd break his whole handand probably damage his wrist and elbow .
Hitting the bag without gloves is dangerous enough conditioned bone such as skull ,hip and elbow is F****** suicidal .
Total Idiotic comment with ignorance stinking to high heaven and earning a much deserved :sadclick: # 46
Liddell is the opposite of musclebound and as a matter of fact has great balance and fluidity in his punches
He cant punch Huh? ::** Well there are quite a few of his opponents that will disagree with that...
20W-3L with 13KO's
http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/f...?FighterID=192
As a matter of fact Lidell has KO quite a few opponents backing up and is a prolific counterpuncher... So I dont know who or what the hell your watching but I suggest you look closer or actually look before writing stuff that is so wrong its ridiculous....
############# ALSO LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF CHUCK IN THE LINK I PROVIDED.... YEA HIS PYHSIQUE IS LEGENDARY, KINDA RONNIE COLEMAN ESQUE ::** #######################################
JT you're on my a*** without making a single noteworthy point except fantasising about mens physique.
You've never boxed you've never been to a gym and you have no idea about balance or posture !!
Sad click away truth is though you know F*** all !!!
A puncher is not just somebody who bulls forward throwing a punch with his full weight behind a punch !!!
theres a difference between being a pressure fighter and a puncher , Liddel is a pressure fighter with power not a puncher you idiot !!!
A puncher is somebody who can take you out with split second timing without reaching or leaning with a punch somebody who can time you off the backfoot when under pressure .
By your WWF standards Liddel might spark a few people in MMA but he is sloppy and his balance is poor backing up against guys who are lunging for a takedown or trying to grapple him does not make him a puncher just as it doesnt make a pissed up Rugby prop knocking out a bouncer on a saturday night you F wit .
See the thing is when i talk about Punchers im talking about world class punchers people who do it on the world stage in the boxing ring
MMA is far beneath the level needed to be a world class puncher in a boxing ring !!
Levels muppett levels .
As for my S*** post can you please tell me im i right about Boxing gloves being put on fists to protect hands or am i wrong are they used to protect heads ?
See throughout the entire thread nobody mentioned that so please dont bottle it and give me a genuine answer .
I think JT is right bub...you must not have ever wathced Chuck fight. He is a deadly accurate counter puncher w/ tremendous balance and use of angles. Does his style look like the next coming of Ali? Absolutely not, but thats b/c he isn't in a boxing match. I think you can agree that when kicks, 4 oz gloves and take downs are factored in, that a traditional boxing stance and style has to be changed. I'm not suggesting that Chuck is the same as a world class boxer, but he is one of the most feared strikers in his repsective sport and he has spent almost his entire life in one combat sport or another so its not like he hit a speed bag for the first time last year. MMA haters go on and on about the sports stand up aspect and how it looks nothign like boxing. Well no shit! As an American and and avid football fan I don't go on and on about how rugby players don't have the same running style as Walter Payton. They are two different sports with two very different styles. In regards to bareknuckle b/c the margin for error is so much smaller than in a traditional boxing match a big onus will be put on hand speed, accuracy and power. Chuck isn't known so much for great handspeed as he is great timing but he does posses great accuracy and power. How well would he do? I don't know, but I think he'd suprise alot of people.
