Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
Im picking Oscar to stop PBF late in the fight. Not by 1 punch however. I believe oscar will give PBF a fight he never expected, Oscar will eat some of PBF's punches to connect on a combo of his own. I believe PBF will be the one that gets discouraged. If zab judah can Knockdown PBF, why the hell cant Oscar. I mean, Oscar might not be faster than PBF, But, hes extremely intelligent.
All in All, Oscar tko late rounds (10)
PBF will come with the excuse that his father was a great distraction in training camp. lol
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
8) And you have a great pick! Good Luck! 8)
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
I think #1 Floyd is DUE for a loss and #2 Oscar is too big, too strong, and too good of a boxer to be beaten by Floyd
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I think #1 Floyd is DUE for a loss and #2 Oscar is too big, too strong, and too good of a boxer to be beaten by Floyd
:coolclick: Kinda agree here.
This is one of those times that I think Floyd may have bitten off more than he can chew...but I still want Floyd to win...even though I'm an Oscar fan, I'm a bigger fan of what Floyd does versus what Oscar does.
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Now im not talking about Oscar getting a SP, or lucky late KO... Im talking about Oscar walking in and dominating lil Floyd Mayweather and outboxing him, then pherhaps maybe knocking him out in the late rounds. I think Oscar is stronger, just as fast, and more determine then Floyd. It's obvious floyd has never faced someone like Oscar, he has more reach then him, he is at his weight while floyd is moving up. He can box just as he can slug. I seriously dont see Floyd winning.... who agrees? ;D
While I think Oscar has more of a shot at making a fight of this...I don't remotely agree with this post.
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It's wierd, now that the fight approaches, and you asked me how it will go I'll stumble around with words and contradict myself and everything it's all very wierd. It would be so much easier if De La Hoya was the pressure fighter with the strong double and triple jab like people think he was. That would make it clear cut one way or another imo. But both of these guys are so damned diverse it is freaking impossible for me to wrap my head around it. So many things can happen. Just look at what Oscar can do and wouldn't be unreasonable to see him try.
1. Mayweather can make Oscar come forward and it will be Oscar's job to be the relentless puncher and figure out ways to keep Floyd from punching and moving. If Floyd chooses to go that route of course.
2. Oscar can stand his ground, fire off a stiff jab and keep Mayweather on the outside without lunging with anything, and then try to time Mayweather as he comes inside. This is how Oscar fought against Mayorga, he was flatfooted most of the time and I think this makes for the most intriguing matchup.
3. Oscar moves forward, constantly trying to stay on top of Mayweather whilst ripping with the hooks to try to catch Mayweather moving side to side. A lot of people think Oscar will be chasing the chicken, but I really would be surprised if this happened.
That's just from one fighter's style standpoint, not to mention all the other intangibles like how Floyd can take a punch and all these other things. No matter how old Oscar is or how "slow" he might be, this is a match up of two of the best. Plain and simple. And it's really taken me this long to realize it. Can't wait.
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
One week out from the fight and Oscar is 158lbs and Floyd is 150lb, now i know they will be very close come the weigh in but Oscar is going to go into this fight much bigger and with a weight advantage over Floyd. His body will be used to this as he has been 147lb and over for 10years!
I watched a little of Monzon V Napoles ( Youtube had a few rounds) size does matter and i just don't see Floyd being strong enough and hitting hard enough to prvent a DLH win.
If Floyd wins this then everyone on this forum who has bagged Floyd at some point including me will have to apologise, it will be an incredible effort and he would deserve full credit.
Will Oscar dominate? I don't think so but i think he will win.
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well less than a week left and i cant wait .... first i thougt it was a joke i said "mayweather will kill this guy" then i checked myself and thought a little ... delahoya has a chacne of winning ...... not because hes the better fighter but he seems to have other advantages .... hes calling the shots
1 "the punchers gloves"
2 a smaller ring
3a good "sparring" partner
3 created drama for the mayweather family which he doesnt hev to worry about
4 huge size and power advantage
so if mayweather does win i think you guys deserve to giv him hes credit because he really small and is fighting a great legendary fighter who went toe to toe with mosely twice beat trinindad vargas pernell quartey and etc .... floyd has everything pinned against him including most of the ppl that tun in for the fight so good luck to both of them this si my last mayweather-delahoya post till fight night
hope its gonna be a great fight and floyd wins so i could make 30 dollars mayb 50 before fight time :laugh:
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Been reading the papers these days, and most boxing experts I've read are certain that Oscar's gonna win. I myself have said since the beginning that DLH would win this match. For the same reasons everyone has said over and over. They're fighting at Oscar's weight. No way is 154 a good weight for PBF. He can get himself in the best shape he can...... he's still gonna come in slightly under the limit. He's gonna be slower and more sluggish than at his natural weight of 140. That's 14 pounds difference. Might as well be a ton. Meanwhile, 154 is Oscar's perfect weight at this time in his career. You put on a few years, you put on a few pounds. It's a natural progression. Oscar's gonna outweigh Floyd by at least 10 pounds when they step into the ring. What's more, Oscar's gonna walk right through Floyd. Floyd's forte is his boxing skills.... he's never been a devastating puncher. And Oscar's speed is not to be underrated. So what's left? As much as it saddens me to say it, I'm expecting an Oscar KO victory.
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Been reading the papers these days, and most boxing experts I've read are certain that Oscar's gonna win. I myself have said since the beginning that DLH would win this match. For the same reasons everyone has said over and over. They're fighting at Oscar's weight. No way is 154 a good weight for PBF. He can get himself in the best shape he can...... he's still gonna come in slightly under the limit. He's gonna be slower and more sluggish than at his natural weight of 140. That's 14 pounds difference. Might as well be a ton. Meanwhile, 154 is Oscar's perfect weight at this time in his career. You put on a few years, you put on a few pounds. It's a natural progression. Oscar's gonna outweigh Floyd by at least 10 pounds when they step into the ring. What's more, Oscar's gonna walk right through Floyd. Floyd's forte is his boxing skills.... he's never been a devastating puncher. And Oscar's speed is not to be underrated. So what's left? As much as it saddens me to say it, I'm expecting an Oscar KO victory.
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Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
I'm banking on the fact that Mosley was about all he could handle years ago and he lost both of those bouts.
I just can't see him getting to Mayweather with any consistency. He might bloody Mayweather nose with some jabs.
I see it as that old fable about the tortoise and the hare. Mayweather has to rest on his laurels to lose this one.
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Now im not talking about Oscar getting a SP, or lucky late KO... Im talking about Oscar walking in and dominating lil Floyd Mayweather and outboxing him, then pherhaps maybe knocking him out in the late rounds. I think Oscar is stronger, just as fast, and more determine then Floyd. It's obvious floyd has never faced someone like Oscar, he has more reach then him, he is at his weight while floyd is moving up. He can box just as he can slug. I seriously dont see Floyd winning.... who agrees? ;D
that comment alone is why you don't know what the hell you're talking about.....
Yeah and you having Tito as your Top 5 is a hell of a reason for me to think your a dumbass. Tito was a great fighter sure... no way near Top 5 not even 10... Way more legends.. You however look like a mainstream punk with Recent "big name" with fighters like Shane, Floyd, Holyfield, tito, and RJJ in ur top 5. Go watch espn classic n then come back. Its not like Floyd is a speed machine, and is going to bomb DLH with Dragon Ball Z lightling fast attacks... what he will do get sit on his arse lightning fast!!!
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
The bottom line is Oscar has faced everything Floyd has to offer before and stacked the odds in his favour. Floyd is in uncharted territory.
The way I see it the guy that stood and froze up a couple of times early opposite Judah would of got sparked by Oscar. The guy that was leaning back and jumping in with his chin out against Baldomir would have got sparked by Oscar. The guy that held his own against Hopkins for 9 rounds is good enough to beat lil'Floyd.
Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?
So Oscar fought Mayorga as a warm-up/confidence booster. Let's analyze that. Usually when a fighter takes a warm-up does he wait a whole year to fight again? And obviously Mayorga got under DLH's skin and that's why he fought a slugfest because he wanted to punish him. All that means is you can get inside Oscar's head and make him fight outside of the fight he should be employing. I think we'd all agree DLH could have beaten Mayorga a lot easier than he did. Now you come from glorified sparring partner a Cinco de Mayo ago to the best lb. for lb. fighter in the sport and you think Oscar is going to have it easy?
In the words of Marcellus Wallace (and I'm paraphrasing), "If you think yo ass is like wine and it get better with time, it don't.". Oscar is older, way more inactive and hasn't beaten a fighter of any significance since Fernando Vargas and that's 2002. And if you want to count the 2nd fight with Mosley I'll nullify it with Sturm.
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So Oscar fought Mayorga as a warm-up/confidence booster. Let's analyze that. Usually when a fighter takes a warm-up does he wait a whole year to fight again? And obviously Mayorga got under DLH's skin and that's why he fought a slugfest because he wanted to punish him. All that means is you can get inside Oscar's head and make him fight outside of the fight he should be employing. I think we'd all agree DLH could have beaten Mayorga a lot easier than he did. Now you come from glorified sparring partner a Cinco de Mayo ago to the best lb. for lb. fighter in the sport and you think Oscar is going to have it easy?
In the words of Marcellus Wallace (and I'm paraphrasing), "If you think yo a** is like wine and it get better with time, it don't.". Oscar is older, way more inactive and hasn't beaten a fighter of any significance since Fernando Vargas and that's 2002. And if you want to count the 2nd fight with Mosley I'll nullify it with Sturm.
but there is a grey area you are missing...
Sturm, Hopkins and Mosley would all whoop the shiat outa Baldomir, Judah and Mitchell. So my point is we know the limit of Oscar's talent. How would Mayweather's talent fair against Sturm, Hopkins and Mosley that is the question.
Keep in mind there recent accomplishments and the fact that Floyd has never even fought a legitimately heavy handed Welterweight.
