Re: Top five reasons why boxing will always be better than MMA
I am not against MMA but it seems a lot of folks are looking for an MMA-Boxing showdown.
Why does it have to be one against the other? There is plenty of room for everyone
caint we all yust get alowng?
Re: Top five reasons why boxing will always be better than MMA
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I am not against MMA but it seems a lot of folks are looking for an MMA-Boxing showdown.
Why does it have to be one against the other? There is plenty of room for everyone
caint we all yust get alowng?
Good point, who cares right??? To each their own ;)
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will MMA ever have a Hagler-Hearns or Castillo-Corrales?
probably not
try watching the first Forrest Griffith- Stephon Bonnar fight, they went toe to toe for 5 rounds. very good fight.
Re: Top five reasons why boxing will always be better than MMA
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Originally Posted by Mad_Dog
I am not against MMA but it seems a lot of folks are looking for an MMA-Boxing showdown.
Why does it have to be one against the other? There is plenty of room for everyone
caint we all yust get alowng?
Heck no, I challenge you to a duel for the honour of one or the other! We will have our showdown, in this life or the next.
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will MMA ever have a Hagler-Hearns or Castillo-Corrales?
probably not
try watching the first Forrest Griffith- Stephon Bonnar fight, they went toe to toe for 5 rounds. very good fight.
Comparing that to Hagler Hearns or Corrales Castillo is blasphemy. The level of talent incorporated in that bar fight isn't in the same realm of sport. It was an entertaining fight though.
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will MMA ever have a Hagler-Hearns or Castillo-Corrales?
probably not
try watching the first Forrest Griffith- Stephon Bonnar fight, they went toe to toe for 5 rounds. very good fight.
Comparing that to Hagler Hearns or Corrales Castillo is blasphemy. The level of talent incorporated in that bar fight isn't in the same realm of sport. It was an entertaining fight though.
matter of opinion i guess...
Re: Top five reasons why boxing will always be better than MMA
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All of your points are subjective to some degree and it sounds like your grasping at straws to somehow prove that boxing is somehow "better".
5) No, submissions aren't boring. I could say "Hey, once a boxer lands with one good punch, the fights over." NO SH1t ::** If you think grappling is boring, you aren't paying attention and haven't seen to much, moreover you are way over simplifying it. EXACTLY LIKE THOSE WHO SAY BOXING IS BORING!!!!!!!
4) No one is denying the rich history of boxing. But from the other perpective, MMA is exciting because it is building that history now.
3) Again oversimplification, If there where MMAists who could continue on undefeated records like some boxers, it would be because every MMAist is fighting the EXACT same way. Styles make fights, and in MMA there's about a million.
2) Dude haha Ortiz-Shamrock II never should have happened. Again, styles. And Again if you think to many high profile fights haven't gone the distance, you haven't watched much MMA. ALSO, mma has an organized history of just 15 years, and they are doing something not attempted in sports for a long long time. Give MMA time to develop the defense.
1) "The most exciting boxing match will be better than the best MMA match and the worst MMA match will be worse than the worst boxing match. It's that simple." I really really try to stick to intelligent discussion and respect other opinions, but this is just verbal diarrhea. Again if you think this, you haven't actually watched a lot of mma. Thr truth is the transition from standing to ground fights is becoming much more seemless. Fighters are becoming more well rounded. To anyone whos actually followed MMA in the last 5 years, this is glarringly apparent.
I hear many of these points repeated again and again, but they just stem from the fact that the boxing fan has spent most of their life watching boxing and just don't have the patience for other aspects of the fight. PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP TRYING TO COMPARE BOXING TO MMA. Let's build bridges (and fix boxing) people.
good post man.. you can never compare MMA to boxing. even the fighters you can never compare. i think this is more of a personal preference than a comparison to which sport is better.
i want to add a little detail that if you really want to compare MMA to boxing. a lot of MMA fighters know how to box but only a few boxers know how to kick or grapple
Re: Top five reasons why boxing will always be better than MMA
It's like saying Mountain Dew is better than Sprite. To me they're both fizzy and lemony.
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It's like saying Mountain Dew is better than Sprite. To me they're both fizzy and lemony.
Sprite is better dude thats not even a question jk jk
Re: Top five reasons why boxing will always be better than MMA
I don't have any problem with MMA, I like it for the most part and I don't see why it has to be one or the other.
But for the guy who said grappling is only boring if you're not paying attention, sorry but a lot of it is boring to me. Its interesting if they're actually trying to do something but nothing annoys me more than when a guy gets hurt standing up and takes the other guy down and just basically lays there in an attempt to survive. I can't remember the guy's names but it was on the card where CroCop got KTFO by Gonzaga, it was a tall black guy-I think from France- who could strike but had S*** take down defense against a Brazillian guy I think. The tall guy would dominate the standup until the other guy would take him down and just F****** lay there. He didn't do anything. If that's interesting to some people fine but I have no idea why it would be.
On the whole I'm not too interested in grappling, at least compared to standup but it can be interesting. Watching Fedor ground and pound or watching guys working for submissions-and the other guy working to escape- is great, watching this "lay and pray" S*** just isn't.
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For me it will always be the characters involved in boxing. Many of the big name fighters have an Idendity that a lot of people who arent even boxing fans are even aware of
Tyson
Leonard
De La Hoya
Holyfield
Duran
so on and so on.......
when you get two recognizable names in the ring, and people know there reputations there is nothing better in the world.
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For me it will always be the characters involved in boxing. Many of the big name fighters have an Idendity that a lot of people who arent even boxing fans are even aware of
Tyson
Leonard
De La Hoya
Holyfield
Duran
so on and so on.......
when you get two recognizable names in the ring, and people know there reputations there is nothing better in the world.
Exactly, the hype around Mayweather-De La Hoya type fights will always be more important than Rampage Jackson-Chuck Lidell and other big MMA bouts.
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will MMA ever have a Hagler-Hearns or Castillo-Corrales?
probably not
try watching the first Forrest Griffith- Stephon Bonnar fight, they went toe to toe for 5 rounds. very good fight.
Comparing that to Hagler Hearns or Corrales Castillo is blasphemy. The level of talent incorporated in that bar fight isn't in the same realm of sport. It was an entertaining fight though.
There's far more skill on display in an MMA fight involving Cung Lee, Royce Gracie, Sakuraba or Randy Coutoure than there is in 90% of boxing fights.
Plenty of bar room brawlers in MMA no doubt, but their are skilled artisans of the sport as well. I'd personally say a guy like Cung Lee is more skilled than any boxer, even Mayweather. It's amazing the moves he's capable of pulling off, just youtube him and see for yourself.
Here's a sample clip of him fighting a demonstration fight. Show me any boxer whose more skilful than this ;)
[youtube=425,350]3r55mxK2xKc[/youtube]
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You can care all you want about MMA and UFC and whatever but I am not going to like it or appreciate it.
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You can care all you want about MMA and UFC and whatever but I am not going to like it or appreciate it.
Spot On. Agree 100%